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What are your favorite and least favorite things about the various carb levels?

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What are your favorite and least favorite things about the various carb levels? What is your carb intake past and present?

E0250b1e6dc5ec1539ffb745042b4d80

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on March 03, 2012
at 05:14 PM

Care to elaborate?

1f8384be58052b6b96f476e475abdc74

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on March 03, 2012
at 05:10 PM

not true for everyone

1f8384be58052b6b96f476e475abdc74

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on March 03, 2012
at 05:09 PM

hah wow, i have very similar reactions to each too, and im currently the same way...it depends on my laziness and available food how many 'carbs' i eat

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

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on March 02, 2012
at 03:23 PM

Ooops, here is the link: http://paleohacks.com/questions/9583/ladies-over-55-on-paleo-hacks#axzz1nyPAUXBP

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

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on March 02, 2012
at 03:23 PM

Hi, Nance. :) I started a thread for ladies over 55, a good while back, if you'd like to read of others in our age group, eating ancestrally, with a wide range of choices in everything. Thanks for the red hat and bus chuckle. :)

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on March 01, 2012
at 11:23 PM

LOL all we need are red hats and a bus! I'm in the right age bracket, but my sweet spot is 75-150g. I'm pretty low-starch by preference, though--large food volume for that happy stuffed feeling.

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

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on March 01, 2012
at 09:02 PM

Snauzoo, thanks for your informative comments and kind thoughts. :) It's nice to have company in the very low carb department. I'm glad you are doing so well.

2d1729002574093032132b662b536226

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on March 01, 2012
at 08:54 PM

One more small voice from the gray haired (covered up with highlights) reading glass wearing (using contacts) crowd! For me in my mid 60s, I found my sweet spot is just about the same as yours. I may indulge in some raspberries with lassi once a week or so, but I am just cruising at 30. And smiling in my baggy size 8s. Since the average woman my age on SAD wears 12 to 14, a fact I was appalled to hear on the news last weekend, I feel great at this size, weight and energy level. I am going to look at your Small Numbers resource!

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on March 01, 2012
at 08:34 PM

sounds like my DH. :)

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on March 01, 2012
at 08:03 PM

Thanks for sharing JayJay!!!

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on March 01, 2012
at 07:45 PM

Definitely was doing great. But I kind of like the "lift heavy things, sprint every now and again" deal that calls for lower carbs. My weekends are more productive to say the least. I really didn't feel like doing much after running for 5 hours. Except eat. And then eat a bit more ;)Testosterone was ridiculous low so sex wasn't even an option. Run, eat, sleep, poop, repeat. And can't forget the coffee I.V.

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on March 01, 2012
at 07:32 PM

Sweet! A down vote for my personal experience! LOL. Thanks!

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at 07:26 PM

sounds like you were doing great on 400-600g, upping your protein and keeping carbs constant seems like a better idea to me.

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at 06:49 PM

That's definitely a less favourite thing, not being able to use food for pleasure because I'm not hungry. I manage to find other ways to enjoy myself though...

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at 06:35 PM

Thanks Clint!!!

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246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

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on March 01, 2012
at 08:18 PM

Under 50gm carb (VLC):
Best thing: Rapid weightloss (for me). No blood sugar spikes (less hunger, zero binge urges)
Worst things: I become a slightly different person, being more stoic and even cynical compared to my normal gregarious self, and dealing with family members always asking me "Are you mad?" because of my silence. Going out to eat is a pain.

Over 50/Under 120gm carb (Paleo 1.0):
Best thing: I'm normal and lose weight at a moderate pace. It's easier to do meal planning and I'm not just eating meat.
Worst thing: Very thin line between too many carbs and not enough, eating higher-starch "trigger" foods like plantains or occasional sweet potatoes sometimes leads to binge urges.

Over 120gm carb:
Best thing: I'm EATING CARBS!
Worst thing: Why did I gain 2lbs a day for the past two weeks? Why won't I stop farting?

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D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

on March 01, 2012
at 08:32 PM

A report from the reading glasses and grey-haired department:

I eat 20-30g/CHO/d. I find this level is calm and pleasant. Small meals, constant amounts of PRO and CHO, strict food plan, and I feel better than I have in many, many years. I use Dr. Richard Bernstein's Law of Small Numbers.

If I eat under 20 for more than a couple of days, it seems as though my body is working much too hard, and needs something it isn't getting. That VVLC level is unnecessary stress for me.

I rarely eat over 30. If it happens, I seem to just naturally adjust by eating under 20 the next day. Going much over 30 takes away the calm, poised alertness that is ever so nice to experience.

20-30 is the "sweet spot" for me. It is a grand and most enjoyable way of eating. I smile a lot more at this level than at a lower or a higher level. :)


I have been eating this level of carbs since the summer of 2010. (I didn't track before then, but avoided gluten grains, sweets and starches, packaged/prepared foods, at that point, as I had done for many years prior to embarking upon Dr. Bernstein's laws of small numbers.)

An advantage to eating this way, for me, is that shopping is very simple. Food preparation and clean-up is as easy as it could be. There is not much packaging to throw out, and I can store two-weeks worth of food quite easily in a very, very small fridge. :)

This WOE might not suit many people, but for me it is one of the best discoveries ever! (I find Dr. Bernstein's plan wholly delightful, brilliant, and very easy to follow.)

Best wishes to all for a food plan that brings you lots of smiles. :)

2d1729002574093032132b662b536226

(78)

on March 01, 2012
at 08:54 PM

One more small voice from the gray haired (covered up with highlights) reading glass wearing (using contacts) crowd! For me in my mid 60s, I found my sweet spot is just about the same as yours. I may indulge in some raspberries with lassi once a week or so, but I am just cruising at 30. And smiling in my baggy size 8s. Since the average woman my age on SAD wears 12 to 14, a fact I was appalled to hear on the news last weekend, I feel great at this size, weight and energy level. I am going to look at your Small Numbers resource!

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

(4134)

on March 02, 2012
at 03:23 PM

Ooops, here is the link: http://paleohacks.com/questions/9583/ladies-over-55-on-paleo-hacks#axzz1nyPAUXBP

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

(4134)

on March 01, 2012
at 09:02 PM

Snauzoo, thanks for your informative comments and kind thoughts. :) It's nice to have company in the very low carb department. I'm glad you are doing so well.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on March 01, 2012
at 11:23 PM

LOL all we need are red hats and a bus! I'm in the right age bracket, but my sweet spot is 75-150g. I'm pretty low-starch by preference, though--large food volume for that happy stuffed feeling.

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

(4134)

on March 02, 2012
at 03:23 PM

Hi, Nance. :) I started a thread for ladies over 55, a good while back, if you'd like to read of others in our age group, eating ancestrally, with a wide range of choices in everything. Thanks for the red hat and bus chuckle. :)

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on March 01, 2012
at 06:44 PM

Sub 50g of carbs I don't get hungry.....that kinda sucks cause I really enjoy eating.

About 100g of carbs I feel great and eat a huge variety of fruit and vegetables.

Over 150g means I've had a cheat day...feel bloated for the next 24hrs or so.

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

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on March 01, 2012
at 08:03 PM

Thanks for sharing JayJay!!!

Ccacf7567273244733bc991af4ac42ed

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on March 01, 2012
at 06:49 PM

That's definitely a less favourite thing, not being able to use food for pleasure because I'm not hungry. I manage to find other ways to enjoy myself though...

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on March 01, 2012
at 07:32 PM

Sweet! A down vote for my personal experience! LOL. Thanks!

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on March 01, 2012
at 06:29 PM

My carb intake past: 400-600 grams per day

My carb intake present: 80-200 grams per day

In the past I was also more vegetarian with the exception to the occasional round of seafood. Also to be noted, I never really ate bread. Everything carb wise tended to be gluten free. My workouts during those large carb days tended to be long slow distance runs amounting to 20-30 miles on a Saturday, followed up by a Sunday run of 10-15 miles (totalling 60-70 miles per week). I never had any real injuries and I never got sick so I must have been doing something right nutritionally for that amount of mileage.

Now that my focus has changed to be more health and strength oriented, I dropped all the grains, switched back to meat eating, and added a lot of fat. I went the high fat, low carb route for a month but it just wasn't working. I dropped some of the fat and upped my carbs and I'm feeling (and looking) a lot better. "Free the Animal" had a good blog post today on his stance on LC and VLC diets. It further solidified what I've been thinking.

When it comes to carb levels in general, I think if you are pretty obese and have a lot of weight to lose, LC and VLC combined with eating to satiety will help you immensely. But I think that once you get fixed "metabolically" that you should start to gradually up the carbs back to the 100-150 level, drop a little bit of the fat, and start tracking your calories (and I say track calories if you are wanting to further lean out). Pretty much what Richard said in his post today.

Anyway, that is my $.02. If no one wants to buy it for that much, that's cool. It's all n=1 anyway :)

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on March 01, 2012
at 08:34 PM

sounds like my DH. :)

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on March 01, 2012
at 07:26 PM

sounds like you were doing great on 400-600g, upping your protein and keeping carbs constant seems like a better idea to me.

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

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on March 01, 2012
at 06:35 PM

Thanks Clint!!!

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on March 01, 2012
at 07:45 PM

Definitely was doing great. But I kind of like the "lift heavy things, sprint every now and again" deal that calls for lower carbs. My weekends are more productive to say the least. I really didn't feel like doing much after running for 5 hours. Except eat. And then eat a bit more ;)Testosterone was ridiculous low so sex wasn't even an option. Run, eat, sleep, poop, repeat. And can't forget the coffee I.V.

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on March 02, 2012
at 07:07 AM

I've been in all ranges from vlc (20-30gms) to very high carb (a carb-cycling type diet) and for me I sit well around 80-100gms.

VLC (20-30gms) - cranky, tired, & lack that "get up & go" It's harder for me to lose weight at this level believe it or not!

LC (30-100gms) - Much better with carbs around 100gms nearly perfect for hunger levels.

MC(100-150gms) - Good but hunger starts to be an issue for me.

HC (150-300gms) - very hungry all the time, thinking about food constantly, low blood sugar episodes, angry, jittery.

VHC (300gms-600gms) - Drugged out "high" feeling with a large crash! Horrible.

One interesting thing is, is that I find it easier to lose weight in the past when I sit around at MC-HC levels. However, I don't feel good doing it.

I love this way of eating as I don't need to focus on any macros now just eat REAL FOOD & I'm happy. I'm 132# & 5'5

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on March 01, 2012
at 08:06 PM

With very low carbs I don't feel too great- no brain fog, but I definitely get a bit "on edge". My current carb levels are around 150-300 grams a day, probably. Maybe up to 400 if I'm super hungry or something like that. Before I started paleo, it was probably twice that (though I didn't see any negative effects from it- no energy dips or weight problems). I'm fairly active, and I could probably bump it up a bit higher, but I feel good at these levels. I eat sweet potatoes, bananas, or white rice every day.

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on March 03, 2012
at 04:23 PM

ZC(~<20)- No appetite at all, yet had to force myself to shovel calories in try to have some energy. Recovery was very poor. Mood was poor. Did seem to help "reset" my metabolism. Hard to lose fat. Hard to gain muscle.

VLC(~50)- Typically involved a fair amount of fasting. Little appetite, often had to force myself to eat. Recovery was lower than average. Mood was lower than average. Definitely helped to heal some health problems. Easy to lose fat at first, then trailed off as I got closer to homeostasis.

LC-MC(50-150)- This seems to be my comfort zone. Good mood, good recovery, good appetite, losing non-vanity fat is almost effortless with everything else dialed in. Feels very natural.

HC(150-500)- Dramatically increased recovery, illogical and counter-productively high amounts of muscle gain(strength/bw is a major goal), helpful for losing vanity weight. Difficult to sustain correctly.

Order done: LC-VLC-ZC-VLC-LC-LC/MC/HC.

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on March 02, 2012
at 05:29 AM

I've done them all at this point I think. VLC takes some adjusting to, but worked well for awhile, but my blood pressure was dangerously low, I was cold all the time, and I had issues with feeling on edge, like manic all the time. Very high carb from starch makes me lose too much weight and also makes me want to cry all the time. Very high carb from fruit was very easy for me to adjust to, but eventually I had similar issues to VLC. These days I'm kind of carb agnostic. I don't know what my levels are like, it depends on what I want to cook. I don't think I'm very low carb or very high carb, somewhere in the middle probably.

1f8384be58052b6b96f476e475abdc74

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on March 03, 2012
at 05:09 PM

hah wow, i have very similar reactions to each too, and im currently the same way...it depends on my laziness and available food how many 'carbs' i eat

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on March 01, 2012
at 11:33 PM

After 3 months of no-counting Primal eating, I did vlc (<30 gm carbs) for 6 weeks. Dropped 10 lbs, felt great, though a bit challenged in my workouts until I got my minerals dialed in.

A year later, I eat 60-70 gm/day and feel great! Sometimes I creep up to 100 g--then I feel bloated.

Yesterday, I started doing a protein-sparing modified fast (vlc & very low fat) to drop the couple of pounds I put back on over the winter. 3 days on, 3 days off. Feeling pretty yuck at the moment--some mild carb flu.

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E0250b1e6dc5ec1539ffb745042b4d80

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on March 01, 2012
at 11:17 PM

Best: If you are a (or a former) hormone train wreck, cutting them out solves a lot of problems. Worst: It takes extra effort to find good food, same as anyone really.

1f8384be58052b6b96f476e475abdc74

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on March 03, 2012
at 05:10 PM

not true for everyone

E0250b1e6dc5ec1539ffb745042b4d80

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on March 03, 2012
at 05:14 PM

Care to elaborate?

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on March 02, 2012
at 07:22 AM

Favourite thing about eating more carbs is more energy for weights and cycling.

Least favourite thing about eating less carbs is less energy for weights and cycling.

Dont know amounts, 1 med-small potato or 1/2 cup rice and couple of pieces of fruit on training days.

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