Been basically paleo with my food choices for many years, except for rice. I'm 4 months into full on vlc paleo; no carbs except copious green vegetables (no fruit, grains, sugar, or roots) and feel amazing.
9am raw lamb leg, raw egg yolk, fish oil 3pm sashimi (I live in Tokyo) or chicken, coconut oil, avocado, seaweed, cabbage 9pm raw beef, coconut oil sauteed tons of green vegetables.
I also add chelated minerals esp mag, Vit D3, E, B, C
Felt like crap and could barely work out for 3 weeks, then magically I became a diesel engine! Actually, now my workouts are stronger than ever and I never bonk. I digest my raw meat by itself so easily now I workout an hour after eating 325 grams of it....deadlifts and all.
My previous problems are reversing; my mind is clear all the time, my energy is constant, I can finally go more than 3 hours without eating, my moods are more even, I sleep better, and my body feels/looks stronger. I was already lean and hard, if small muscled, but now I seem to be gaining a bit of good weight.
I am presently working out to try and gain mass, which my hardgainer body has never cooperated with before. I'm following leangains advice and eating 3 grams of protein per kilogram (I weigh @60kg lean body mass), and filling the rest out with fat; about 180g protein/195g fat/@2500 cal/day/3 meals @8-850cal. I don't count green veggie calories, I just eat em.
Before I was really carb sensitive and they were making me sick. In the glycogen window I could eat more of them, but other times more than 40-50g of carbs would make me feel crappy. Now that I am keto adapted, I don't wanna screw that up. But, I do want to gain some mass. I'm at my limit with protein, and I don't think I can stomach more fat (already almost 200g a day). I have no need to add carbs for performance or glycogen load as I already feel unstoppable energy before, during and after my workouts.
So, i'm thinking of adding 100 grams or so of carbs from yams/sweet potato, once per day to up my calories to gain mass. I'm afraid it will just ruin my adaptation to no carbs and resulting well being, and at the very least may make me get hungry all the time like before. Im hoping my metabolism has healed a bit, and perhaps I can take it now.
Obviously carb loads kick you out of ketosis, but do they screw up keto adaptation?
asked byanimaleater (2417)
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on March 19, 2012
at 12:10 PM
I'm currently doing a Leangains style plan with IF and carb/calorie cycling. Like you, on rest days I eat pretty low carbs. They come from green vegetables and almost always below 50g per day. I feel great on those days and never feel hungry. I lift weights three days per week. On those days, I eat a sweet potato or a couple of bananas or a combination of the two with my post workout meal. On workout days I also feel great, have good energy and don't feel hungry. I was IFing before beginning Leangains, but since adding the carb cycling component my fat loss has certainly accelerated. In fact, I'm probably going to increase my calories soon because I am losing weight a little too fast, in my opinion - which is interesting, because I actually increased my calories on the three days per week that I eat starch. Good luck with it. I think that we're all so different that these programs work differently for different people. They provide a starting point, but invariably some experimentation will become necessary. It's kind of fun.
on March 19, 2012
at 10:57 AM
I think what throws you out of keto adaptation is no longer needing ketones ... like you would if you returned to SAD. But your immediate problem might be no longer being carb adapted after doing VLC for 4 months. In this case, it'll take your body longer to deal with a 100g load of carbs.
So you should experiment, but you may also want to ramp up on the carb intake if you decide to go that route.