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Is Kiefer's carb-backloading book worth the money?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 24, 2012 at 1:44 AM

I'm planning to start carb backloading (with paleo carbs). It seems pretty straightforward (from his website):

  1. Limit carbs in A.M.
  2. Lift heavy weights (ideally late afternoon/evening)
  3. Carbs during dinner

His carb-backloading book (pdf) is $57. Is it worth buying, or does the above list sum it up enough?

Also, his carb nite book is only $21. Anyone tried both protocols and have thoughts on one versus the other?

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at 05:19 PM

Okay, cool, sounds like cbl is for you then.

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at 03:20 PM

@JakeA - Thanks, I'll take a look.

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@Stephen - Yeah, I think I heard him say something along those lines on a podcast as well. I am working on last few stubborn pounds which is why I was leaning towards carb-backloading.

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at 02:24 PM

White potatoes ftw.

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at 02:23 PM

But if you're not terribly overweight/obese then cbl might be what you need, see what I mean?

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at 02:22 PM

Okay I ask because in a podcast I heard kefir saying that carb nighting is better for people with more fat to lose than cbl. So if you have a lot of fat to lose then carb night might be more for you, and since that book is cheaper..

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at 02:13 PM

You can get the science from looking up "Cheat Mode" by silverhydra from reddit. The book has more detailed information though.

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Both, but if I had to prioritize, I'd put fat loss first as long as I can do it without losing a lot of muscle.

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at 02:02 PM

Thanks, yeah. I just listed to Robb Wolf's podcast with Kiefer and Kiefer said he has realized you can get even better results with unprocessed carb sources.

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at 05:12 AM

Hey mike, you trying to lose fat or gain muscle?

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at 02:01 AM

Thanks, I'll check it out.

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on December 24, 2012
at 05:22 AM

Kiefer is a bright guy and whether or not you buy his book I also suggest you search for podcasts by him. You have the gist of his protocol already, but so do most people before they buy his book, and while I don't have his book I'd be confident it is a good book to own based on what I've heard from him in his podcasts. If the price of his book seems reasonable for you then go for it. Also my understanding is that CN is geared towards heftier people than CBL.

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on December 24, 2012
at 01:58 PM

I am interested in this subject too, however, his book is way too expensive. The only thing I don't like about his program is that bad quality carbs like donuts and M and M are used as a source of back carb loading. I heard him say this on this podcast. If you are intersted in carb back loading check on Nate Myaki on Tnation. He is very similar to Kiefer, but emphasis on better carb choices, although I don't like his reccomendation of eating white rice.

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on December 24, 2012
at 02:02 PM

Thanks, yeah. I just listed to Robb Wolf's podcast with Kiefer and Kiefer said he has realized you can get even better results with unprocessed carb sources.

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on December 24, 2012
at 02:24 PM

White potatoes ftw.

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on December 24, 2012
at 02:52 AM

It's on my Christmas lists. I hope I get it, if I don't I'm buying it anyway. I, too, am interested in experimenting with his protocol.

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on December 24, 2012
at 01:50 AM

If you're looking for more information and don't want to buy the books I know he talks a lot about these two diet plans on his podcasts. I haven't read either of the books though so I can't help you too much there. Best of luck! I am thinking about starting carb backloading after Christmas. I would love to know how it goes.

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at 02:01 AM

Thanks, I'll check it out.

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on May 10, 2013
at 02:23 PM

I think it's the same concept as Carb Addicts Diet (Drs. Heller), which came out around '91 or '92, where you skip breakfast, or eat only protein/non-starchy veg's at breakfast and lunch, then sensible but hearty dinner (protein/carbs/fat/veg's) within one hour. And the book looks very cheap (especially used). And the reviews are pretty good.

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