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white coated tongue

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 04, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Recently, I've woken up with a nasty white, coated tongue, the stuff on it, is the consistency of almost cream cheese. Scraping the stuff off with my teeth, I've also noticed a bit of gum bleeding.

I'm normally VLC, with a little bit of carbs a few hours post workout, on the days that I do work out. This coating appears even on days I don't eat carbs.

I've tried to kill it off by doing coconut oil pulls with a couple of drops of oregano oil and one drop of Lugol's iodine morning and night, but, it comes back the next day anyway.

Once scraped off, my tongue looks red/pink.

I'm considering making a sugar syrup and dropping some of the scrapings off in a jar, to see if it will ferment and see if it actually is alive, which might give me a clue as to what it is, but if it does react, how would I tell bacteria apart from, say yeast?

I brush my teeth with half-baking soda/half coconut oil, so whatever this stuff is, alkalinity doesn't seem to hurt it. Perhaps I can switch to something more acidic temporarily to see if that kills it off.

Not sure of the source, the only thing I can think of is that I've recently made a batch of kombucha, and have had some, but I'm not sure that this is the source, but I've avoided it in the last few days. Also noticed a little bit of nasal congestion, so that might be related.

I've also tried to ingest a drop of oregano oil to possibly kill off whatever this stuff is, and then a couple of hours replenished flora with home made goat milk kefir, but not every day.

How do I tell if this stuff is bacterial, or a fungus, or something else?

Diet is 100% clean paleo, somedays I do bulletproof coffee, some days use green tea instead of coffee, normally consume some coconut oil each day, lots of various types of protein (beef, lamb, chicken, fish, clams, shrimp, liver, cod liver, sardines) and veggies are usually mixed greens, kale/spinach/carrots/cucumbers/cauliflower/broccoli. Carb sources are usually sweet potato, rarely, some rice. Sometimes home made kraut, some days I IF.

Sleep is usually very good, I randomize workouts, usually a heavy workout on the weekends, some days I randomly do one or two sets in the morning, randomly do CT, cold showers almost every days, rarely warm.

Basically I keep IF, CT, workouts, and food sources randomized. Don't feel any ill effects from anything, energy levels/stamina are good, performance is good, no other health effects as far as I've noticed.

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on July 12, 2012
at 09:44 AM

Put about a tablespoon in your hand, bend your head down so you dip your nose in it, and breath it in through your nose, then raise your head. It will go through your sinuses down your throat.

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on July 12, 2012
at 01:23 AM

How do you do an oil draw through nostrils? Is it straight coconut oil?

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on July 09, 2012
at 10:39 AM

Well, whatever it was, it went away on its own - might have been some kind of die off, all I did is draw in coconut oil via nostrils to clean out my sinuses for two days in a row, and took some extra goat's milk kefir every 2-3 days. Wasn't the kombucha - I had some last night to test it, and no white tongue at all this morning. The gentian violet hasn't arrived, but at least I'll have it available if I ever need it.

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on July 05, 2012
at 04:42 PM

I really don't know. However, in doubt, I would toss the kombucha and start over. Kombucha is supposed to have good probiotics in it and thrush is a candida infection. If you think your infection is spreading then I would have it checked out by a dr.

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on July 05, 2012
at 03:56 PM

Any possibility that this came from the kombucha I made? Or could it be a die-off caused by the new probiotics from it? The sore throat got a bit more intense, and I noticed my sinuses acting up too, so flushed them out with coconut oil and felt much, much better, but it released some white colored phlegm balls in the process, so it's in my sinuses for sure. I've ordered it from amazon, will be here in a couple of days.

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on July 05, 2012
at 12:53 PM

That's a pretty common symptom with thrush. Often, people who are on inhaled corticosteroids will get it if they don't rinse their mouths after using their inhalers. Also, common in infants. Gentian violet is available over-the-counter or you can get an rx from your dr for an antifungal. You might want to take some probiotics to repopulate the good fungi in your mouth.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on July 05, 2012
at 09:50 AM

sure, I'll up the water intake.

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on July 05, 2012
at 09:49 AM

now that you mention it, a very light sore throat.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on July 05, 2012
at 09:47 AM

Nope, no meds at all.

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on July 04, 2012
at 05:44 PM

are you on or have you been on any meds in the last 90 days. ANY meds.

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on July 04, 2012
at 08:38 PM

I honestly don't think it's an infection, but likely a reaction to something you're eating or some detox. I had cfs and my tongue was always coated. As I changed many things, it became clear, but it still coats if I have tea. I would check it every time you go to the bathroom and notice what you ate in the hours before, to see if you can spot a consistent pattern.

Perhaps dehydration is an issue, not sure... same applies, note down water intake and check mirror, then you'll spot if the coating appears when you have not taken on enough water.

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on July 05, 2012
at 09:50 AM

sure, I'll up the water intake.

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782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

on July 04, 2012
at 06:20 PM

I vote for thrush also. Do you have any throat or mouth pain with it? You can use gentian violet to treat it (don't know if that is paleo or not) but it will stain anything it gets on.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on July 05, 2012
at 09:49 AM

now that you mention it, a very light sore throat.

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

(5231)

on July 05, 2012
at 12:53 PM

That's a pretty common symptom with thrush. Often, people who are on inhaled corticosteroids will get it if they don't rinse their mouths after using their inhalers. Also, common in infants. Gentian violet is available over-the-counter or you can get an rx from your dr for an antifungal. You might want to take some probiotics to repopulate the good fungi in your mouth.

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

(5231)

on July 05, 2012
at 04:42 PM

I really don't know. However, in doubt, I would toss the kombucha and start over. Kombucha is supposed to have good probiotics in it and thrush is a candida infection. If you think your infection is spreading then I would have it checked out by a dr.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on July 05, 2012
at 03:56 PM

Any possibility that this came from the kombucha I made? Or could it be a die-off caused by the new probiotics from it? The sore throat got a bit more intense, and I noticed my sinuses acting up too, so flushed them out with coconut oil and felt much, much better, but it released some white colored phlegm balls in the process, so it's in my sinuses for sure. I've ordered it from amazon, will be here in a couple of days.

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on July 04, 2012
at 06:04 PM

Sounds like thrush, but I would see a doctor. Maybe probiotics would help?

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on July 04, 2012
at 05:43 PM

Dude, its one of three things, either a yeast infection, dead skin cells or dehydration. Probably a mix of all three in this case. Get some of those tooth pick thingys with the tongue scraper and scrap that stuff off every day and drink water and it should go away on its own.

Your not going to 'kill' candida with oregano oil. You can try putting coconut oil on it after you gently scrap it off. This problem should clear up in well under a week, if not, consult a Dr.

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