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GERD and SIBO, can it be cured?

Answered on February 02, 2018
Created November 12, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Long time lurker of paleohacks, I am not quite paleo, but have transitioned to meat-eating recently after years of happy vegetarianism. I have been a conscious eater for many years keeping my dairy and wheat levels low, and not discriminating against any vegetables (love them!).

Currently, I have an undiagnosed chronic digestive problem that has made me unreliable and mostly miserable for some time. I have been having horrific heart burn for the last 8 months. Horrific. On and off I may also get gut symptoms such as either Diarrhea or Constipation. Often cramps which vary from "ok" to "ohmygodiwanttodie". After many tests including:

  • h pylori (negative)
  • endoscopy (showed irritation in stomach and throat, no ulcers)
  • Celiac (blood and biopsy, negative)
  • parasite (via blood only)
  • Elimination diet -- removed all allergen foods for 10 weeks, only gave some mild relief, and not consistently

... and taking Prilosec for a month my doctor referred me to an MD who focuses on food allergies and sensitivities. He uses a urine test that I am skeptical of to test for microbial markers, including:

  • Candida (moderate levels)
  • good bacteria (low levels)

As a result, I am currently trying to treat Candida by following a low-carb, no sugar, no mold diet and using natural anti-fungals as prescribed by my MD food doc. I am also taking very strong, multi-strain probiotics. No coffee or alcohol.

The next steps through my GI doc (that makes 3 MDs mentioned):

  • Motility test -- how quickly is my stomach emptying?
  • SIBO breath test -- would have to go off of probiotics

Here is my question: Has anyone gone through a diagnosis of SIBO with actual lab tests, treated it and been cured? Or is taking strong antibiotics putting a band-aid on an issue that I'll be facing for the rest of my life? From the research I've done online and talked to a couple of people who have had it, it seems like recurrence is a sure thing. One example: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18802998.

Any advice on paleo details that may help is welcomed. While I am incorporating more and more paleo-based foods including bone broths into my diet but this does not necessarily attack the root cause of all these issues. I really want to beat whatever is going on!

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on November 13, 2012
at 06:26 PM

Thanks for sharing your story. I'm glad that Paleo is helping. Did you ever have tests of SIBO or any kind of bacteria -- you probably had H Pylori since it's standard.

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on November 13, 2012
at 02:22 PM

I suffered from GERD for a long time. Mine was bad, becoming a serious issue at one point because I couldn't keep any food down. I also have had all the tests available done with no major findings oher than chronic gastritis and some biliar reflux. I have been on many medications for it - Prevacid being the best - and they seemed to help for a few months, but then it would come back with a vengance and the pain, vomitting, etc would start again.

No advice on the SIBO and I am also not sure if I had/have candida overgrowth or not, that's the only test I didn't have done.

I have been eating Paleo for 2 months now and I have seen a HUGE improvement. I am symptom less 99.9% of the time...I can only think of one time my stomach was bothering me but I suspect it was too much spice in my meat (which will obviously irritate my already sensitive stomach).

I hope you find the answers you are looking for and start to feel better!

Aeddd4b4eac3d1fde50a498b1ca68fd5

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on November 13, 2012
at 06:26 PM

Thanks for sharing your story. I'm glad that Paleo is helping. Did you ever have tests of SIBO or any kind of bacteria -- you probably had H Pylori since it's standard.

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on November 28, 2012
at 04:20 AM

You might be interested in an article I wrote on this topic:

http://digestivehealthinstitute.org/2012/08/17/sibo-diet-and-digestive-health/

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on November 13, 2012
at 02:34 AM

You might be a good candidate for the GAPS diet to heal your gut and gradually introduce foods back in to find any sensitivities.

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on February 02, 2018
at 12:38 PM

To add to this ancient discussion, one thing I've found that works really really well is D-Limonene.  If you don't have a source of it, you can use therapeutic grade citrus essential oils such as orange, lemon, or grapefruit.  Just swallow a small amount.

What will happen as bacteria in your small intestine eat fibers from food is that they'll cause gas to build up and you'll actually burp up some of the D-Limonene and also kill off excess growth in your esophagus both when you swallow it initially and later. Bacteria in your esophagus which is another way you'll get reflux as they create endotoxins such as LPS which weaken the LES allowing food out of the stomach.

A bit fo calcium at night can be taken (I used calcium lactate powder as I had this around) which will strengthen the LES and keep acid in the stomach.  Over time, repeatedly doing this will stop SIBO completely.

I found out about this here: https://fixyourgut.com/the-magic-bullet-treatment-for-gerd-d-limonene/

John Brisson's stuff is legit and his book is full of stuff like this - much of it is on his website too.

 

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on February 02, 2018
at 01:18 AM

You definitely have to watch your FODMAP intake if your dealing with SIBO or any gut condition with dysbiosis.

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