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When it comes down to weight loss & paleo does it matter how you get your calories and macros by the end of the day?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 16, 2013 at 3:18 PM

I've been following a 40p/30f/30c ratio on 1,250 calories a day while eating paleo for fat loss. I've been on point for 5 days now. Today i had breakfast and my boyfriend bought these quest bars. They were sooo good! and i ended up having two of them which equaled 40g protein 50g carbs 10g fat. so now i screwed up my meal plans for the day cause of these macros, so i had to change up some of my next meals, and even eliminate some to reach my calories and macros for the day. And now i'm kinda freaking out that after eating a 350 calorie breakfast of eggs, sausage and veggies and avocado followed by scarfing down 2 quest bars that it's going to turn into fat. So my question is: is it really going to effect my fat loss goals as long as i stay with in my calories and macros for the day? thanks

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on April 16, 2013
at 04:37 PM

Agree here very much, even though calories matter, hormones matter even more so, which is why fasting is so great for fat loss, reduced insulin, increased HGH

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on April 16, 2013
at 03:53 PM

I was just trying not to leave anything out, although obviously some of these things are probably more important for solely fat loss as a goal then others. But I happen to think that the hormonal environement is perhaps the ONLY thing that matters of fat loss.

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on April 16, 2013
at 03:39 PM

Not sure why this was downvoted ... there is some truth here. It might be way over-thinking for most people, but if you are trying to get the ultimate hack, all these things play in. I think we don't even know what we don't know about the role of the hormonal environment in our health.

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on April 16, 2013
at 03:37 PM

I'll take the down vote, but which aspect do you disagree upon?

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at 03:37 PM

What aspect of this do you disagree on?

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on April 16, 2013
at 03:31 PM

What matters most for FAT loss is the hormonal environment that you set up, which is dictated by your macro nutrient ratios, your macro nutrient and calorie timing, your food composition, your workout regimen, your total calories, your rest, your supplementation, your sun exposure, and the your relationships (the initial feelings of being "in love" as well as having sex are natural testosterone and mood boosters).

If for you being paleo means reducing carbs and omitting grains, beans, and legumes then your only taking into account an optional 5% of the puzzle (by optional I mean that you don't have to actually omit any of those things to reach your fat loss goals).

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

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on April 16, 2013
at 03:39 PM

Not sure why this was downvoted ... there is some truth here. It might be way over-thinking for most people, but if you are trying to get the ultimate hack, all these things play in. I think we don't even know what we don't know about the role of the hormonal environment in our health.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 16, 2013
at 03:37 PM

What aspect of this do you disagree on?

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 16, 2013
at 03:53 PM

I was just trying not to leave anything out, although obviously some of these things are probably more important for solely fat loss as a goal then others. But I happen to think that the hormonal environement is perhaps the ONLY thing that matters of fat loss.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 16, 2013
at 03:37 PM

I'll take the down vote, but which aspect do you disagree upon?

606f2967e2ada25eb0bc2ed677ec2845

(364)

on April 16, 2013
at 04:37 PM

Agree here very much, even though calories matter, hormones matter even more so, which is why fasting is so great for fat loss, reduced insulin, increased HGH

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on April 16, 2013
at 03:22 PM

No...calories in vs calories out...don't worry so much about it. Enjoy your quest bars and I'm sure your bf will love you either way

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on April 16, 2013
at 05:32 PM

How did you screw up? First I don't believe that prescriptive macros are necessary -- certainly not on a daily basis....

But if you had two quest bars:

Carbs: 50g 200C

Protein: 40g 160C

Fat:10g 90C

And a sausage egg and veggie omelet:

Carbs: 0g 0C

Protein: 20g 80C

Fat: 30g 270C

Then all you need is a big salad with some potato and a chicken breast:

Carbs: 40g 160C

Protein: 60g 240C

Fat: 5g 45C

For a grand total of 1245 Calories and a 38.5p/32.5f/28.9c ratio

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on April 16, 2013
at 04:21 PM

First of all, life is long, and ten years from now you will not look back and say "dammit, I shouldn't have had those quest bars". Don't freak out. Learn, but don't freak out.

Second, calories-in-calories-out, BUT, foreveryoung is completely correct that the hormonal environment matters greatly. The quest bars set up an internal environment where you will feel hungrier and less energetic than you would have had you eaten an equal number of calories of salmon and broccoli, making it harder to keep either the calories-in or the calories-out on track. And even if you can, the lack of nutrition in a quest bar will make your body crave food just to get in that extra nutrition, and if you don't take care of that there can be negative repercussions as well.

But none of that makes it worth freaking out about. Just decide where your tradeoffs lie. If you really want to lose weight, eat nutrient-dense foods that won't mess up your metabolism -- salmon and broccoli rather than quest bars -- almost all the time. If you have a quest bar once a week, then it'll slow down that goal barely at all. IF you can really limit it to once a week, which may be a lot more difficult than not eating it at all. If you throw in a few drinks a week, another quest bar or two a week, and a cheat day on Sunday, then that's still healthier than the standard american diet, but you're probably not going to have much success on your weight loss.

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