so has anyone here who is zc/vlc that has experimented with different caloric protein/fat ratio? 40/60 - 30/70 - 20/80?? and remember, this is not by weight but by calories.
after i read "primal body primal mind", i tried the 10/90 ratio. oh yes i did. for the last 2 weeks or so, on a 2000cal daily diet, i was having may be around 40g of protein. i'm 5'9 and 125lb. i remember feeling very wozy and weak. i think i did lost weight, but can't remember cuz my brain just didn't work during that time. i've just started to go 20/80 in the last few days and my mind perked up immediately (since day two!).
anyone has experimented with different ratio and have some before/after thoughts to share?? if possible just the zc/vlc crowd :))
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on October 25, 2011
at 10:32 PM
After much thought and some experimentation I've decided that (for me) mathematical ratios and detailed measurements aren't primal/paleo. From week to week, if my clothes fit as well or better my eating program is a success and I try to focus on my overall quality of life after that.
The closest I get to formulas now is that I eat a nice large meal containing meat, veggies and fruit at mid-morning. If I get very hungry in the afternoon, I eat more meat and fat but no more carbs. At least 4 days per week the first meal gets me to the next day with no energy crashes.
My 80/20 approach to primal eating is that, if I really want it, I'll have one soda on the weekend. I have a Soda Stream and use sugar-based syrup rather than HFCS because I don't have problems with fruit or moderate amounts of sugar affecting my blood glucose.
UPDATE Dec 2011: No more 80/20! As I've matured in the lifestyle I've lost the desire for occasional sugar sodas. I replaced them with a probiotic drink, water kefir, that becomes carbonated if sealed in an airtight bottle. The difference between soda and water kefir is exactly like the difference between real/processed foods.
on December 21, 2011
at 02:22 AM
(forgive my english) After brief experimentation I concluded that thinking that "fat doesn't make you fat" is BS. As obvious. I like having badass abs (and tend to get a puffy face immediately) so I have to keep protein ratio high. I don't count (I adjust the medium leaness of the meats I eat through the week according to results) but I suppose 45%. When I had/wanted to lose faster I'd say I have even gone up till 75%. No sides effects but I don't do high intensity exercise either in those days.
Guess what: chicken breasts, white fish etc. can be boring, butter, bacon etc. are more palatable.
I don't know if by doing a lot of exercise you can be as lean eating a bit lower protein %. But I wouldn't have anymore all that time anyways.
on December 21, 2011
at 02:27 AM
I've done a lot of experimenting and do best at p/f/c of 20/75/05 and 1900 calories.
If I eat 20/70/10 I have to cut back to 1450 calories to maintain my weight.
If I eat 20/<60/>20 I have to cut back to 1100 calories to maintain my weight.
on October 25, 2011
at 05:32 PM
A couple months ago, before I started doing Paleo, I used to do 33f-33p-33c and I gained weight (and that was with lifting weights). Afterwards, I wanted to lean out a little, discovered that too many carbs made me feel crappy, so I switched to Paleo a couple weeks ago. I was doing moderate carbs, so about 50f-30p-20c. Didn't really gain or lose a significant amount of weight. Now I'm experimenting with VLC, doing 70f-20p-10c and I've excluded fruits from my diet. It's only been less than week since I started VLC so I can't say if I see a difference yet but when I did switch to Paleo, I think I got what is called the carb flu (feeling very tired, headaches, etc.) and I don't think I'm fully quite over it yet which probably means my body hasn't adjusted to burning fat. I've been told for some people it takes over a month so I'm gonna stick to this for a while.
on October 11, 2011
at 04:28 PM
I'm aiming for 20/80 too - do you mind posting your meal plans just for my sheer curiosity? :)