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High Calorie without nuts?

Answered on July 09, 2014
Created July 07, 2014 at 4:31 PM

is it possible? I've asked for high calorie advice before and everyone just tells me to eat nuts, and I really really don't tolerate nuts, except coconut. Does it really make sense to go through cans of coconut milk a day? I want some variety, nutrition, and not to have insulin spikes. I do sweet potatoes, but am sorta weary about white potatoes and rice cause I want to have healthy blood sugar. I'm not a diabetic. I just feel like i'm bored and only eating 1,300 calories and I'm a runner. I've been tracking and just don't know how to affordably get my calories with variety.

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on July 08, 2014
at 05:56 PM

exactly! Just because i'm not a diabetic doesn't mean I couldn't become one or that they are healthy!

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on July 08, 2014
at 04:21 PM

When you get it right it is awesome. I find adding a good dose of honey or alcohol makes it really smooth, but even coconut milk, egg yolks, xylitol, vanilla essence makes a pretty decent ice cream. A good trick is to have your mix/custard cold before putting it in the maker, more prep time but worth it ;)

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on July 07, 2014
at 11:45 PM

Because some people don't tolerate carbs well or would rather not roll the dice?

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on July 07, 2014
at 09:50 PM

gracias! I think I'm going to invest in an ice-cream maker!

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on July 07, 2014
at 07:23 PM

You have the tastiest posts around here man, i'm doing a full fast today and majorly drooling...

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on July 07, 2014
at 07:19 PM

No prob. Wall-of-text-mode! =]

Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

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on July 07, 2014
at 07:18 PM

I tend to eat more protein than I need. (My excuse for now is that I'm cultivating mass.) I just got the technique down of starting the cast iron on the stove and finishing in the oven.

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on July 07, 2014
at 07:14 PM

Thank You soooo much for being do detailed! I mega appreciate it!

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on July 07, 2014
at 07:13 PM

I totally need to eat more meat! I do not eat enough of it at all! Only one portion a day!

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on July 07, 2014
at 06:56 PM

I'll post as an answer.. I can tell there's not going to be enough room in this comment box, haha.

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on July 07, 2014
at 06:49 PM

But I mean...what do you eat!? What you eat is the key!

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on July 07, 2014
at 06:27 PM

I tend to eat at the far end of the spectrum. Likely more food in meals than is really necessary or ideal, but, right now it seems to be working and enjoyable. My breakfasts are really no different than my dinners and I tend to workout in the mornings fasted where there can be a pretty good appetite into the typical 12+hr range since my last meal. Then if I skip breakfast (I don't usually do lunch), it's been 20+ hrs and I can really get down with some awesome dinners.

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on July 07, 2014
at 06:14 PM

. I just don't know what to eat. I can't exactly get grass fed..so I do conventional meats... but that's not bad, right? But even then...I have 2 portions of meat a day and I'm not starving, but I know my body is used to a calorie deficit.

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on July 07, 2014
at 06:14 PM

Help me understand! I use the app "My Fitness Pal" I'm 5'7 and run 3 miles every other day, and a mile and some yoga/core on my rest days. I have one day of the week that I don't run at all and just do yoga. So, It calculated 1,900 for my daily intake and then add the calories I burn that I need to replace. How can you possibly eat 1,300 for just breakfast? Explain to me your ways. I guess i'm just not creative with meals...I like the taste of white potatoes, but I really don't do foods that are bad for blood sugar just as a precaution

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Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

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on July 07, 2014
at 07:05 PM

A typical large meal scenario for me:

Yesterday, I woke up around 8am with some things to do around the house and not particularly hungry. Got to the gym after 10, but had to be done by noon. Had an awesome workout. Left around noon, without time for breakfast and went with my nephew to basketball practice. That ran until after 2pm, then we went grocery shopping around 4. By 6, I finally got around to preparing dinner, which needed an hour to bake, with breakfast around 7:30pm. I realized we needed vinegar for the salads and more bell pepper, so I went back to the store.

We started early by marinating some chicken in oregano, basil, thyme, rosemary, black pepper, salt, garlic, ginger, white wine, rice vinegar, honey, and tamari. Then threw that onto skewers with red bell pepper.

I chopped up a bunch of fresh tomatoes off the vine, and threw that on a baking pan lined with a layer of olive oil and garlic (no such thing as too much), threw a bunch of thin sliced zucchini over the top, topped with green onion, yellow bell pepper, another drizzle of olive oil, seasonings / salt, and a layer of ricatta, mozzarella, and aged cheddar, at 350. (One of my go to dishes.) Lots of cheese there.

Once that was about 20 minutes from ready, I kicked the oven up to 400 and threw in a pan of back bacon on a layer of coconut oil.

Then, started on some side veg stir fry. Bok choy, asparagus, purple onion, peppers, a bunch of spinach, some squash, a little wine, ginger / herbs & spices. Cooked in butter ghee.

While that was going, I started on a salad, lots of romaine, some spinach, a handful of blueberries, some sliced strawberries, celery, some leftovers from the last mixed salad (mixed greens), then crumbled up the bacon and mixed that in. I do the salads with lots of olive oil (+ vinegar).

For the grilled chicken, we made a bunch of guacamole with garlic and cilantro, and some of the leftover purple onion from the stir fry.

The larger plates were in the dishwasher, so I made out 4+ smaller plates buffet-style. I did seconds on a few plates, then ate some pistachios, then topped it off with some dark chocolate, a few supplements (Mg + K2), and a glass of a nice green tea. 2,000 kcal IF meal.

It sounds like a lot of prep, but not too bad when you figure the time making breakfast / eating it + making lunch / eating it + making dinner vs just making dinner. With leftovers, a 1,300 kcal breakfast the next day is easily doable with no prep besides throwing it back in the oven and throwing some leftover salad in a bowl with a scoop of leftover guac.

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on July 07, 2014
at 07:23 PM

You have the tastiest posts around here man, i'm doing a full fast today and majorly drooling...

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(78)

on July 07, 2014
at 07:13 PM

I totally need to eat more meat! I do not eat enough of it at all! Only one portion a day!

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(78)

on July 07, 2014
at 07:14 PM

Thank You soooo much for being do detailed! I mega appreciate it!

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on July 09, 2014
at 03:21 AM

i eat lots of oil, butter, mayo, and coconut milk. it's really not hard to get in calories with fat. it adds up fast. also, white potatoes and sweet potatoes aren't that different in the carbohydrate content so i wouldn't worry about insulin spikes. if you eat it with a meal, you'll be fine.

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on July 08, 2014
at 05:58 PM

I just made a delicious sweet potato pasta that was high calorie! One whole grated sweet potato, two hamburgers, 2 cans of tomato sauce, and some dairy free, allergy free cheese, with 5 tablespoons of coconut oil! I wish I could find more yummy recipes!

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on July 07, 2014
at 11:31 PM

Get a bottle of olive oil and douse everything in it. 4 ounces = 1000 calories.

Also, if you're not a diabetic, why are you carb-phobic? Eat some potatoes and rice.

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on July 07, 2014
at 11:45 PM

Because some people don't tolerate carbs well or would rather not roll the dice?

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on July 07, 2014
at 07:38 PM

I do 1 meal a day and hit 2500kcal so easily, i usually have improvised guacamole with raw veggie sticks as a starter, then a curry - ghee/spices, 1/2 can coconut milk, tomatoes, some kind of protein usually seafood, then pour that all over lots of steamed veggies, i recently tend to have a sweet potato or winter squash in there to soak up the sauce as there's nothing that can compensate for starch in making a delicious full on curry. I may have some nuts to snack after if i'm still hungry and if i fancy something sweeter then dark choc chunks melted with crushed berries in coconut milk w/cinnamon if i'm feeling lazy or homemade coconut milk ice cream if i'm not.

Regular alternatives to what i listed above could be a large salad with plenty of avocado, olives/olive oil, or a load of roasted veggies in fat...

Basically healthy fats are the easiest way to bump up calories in the context of what you're looking for (low blood sugar/insulin)

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on July 07, 2014
at 09:50 PM

gracias! I think I'm going to invest in an ice-cream maker!

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Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

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on July 07, 2014
at 05:45 PM

Certainly possible, I can do 1,300 for breakfast, without nuts. You just eat a bunch of food. If you don't have a big stomach, up your meals. Lately, I don't really do sweet potatoes / white potatoes or rice. If you're at energy balance and weight stable, you might be underestimating your caloric intake (1300 seems low to be running and having difficulty eating above. I probably eat more than that on my fasting days.)

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on July 07, 2014
at 06:14 PM

Help me understand! I use the app "My Fitness Pal" I'm 5'7 and run 3 miles every other day, and a mile and some yoga/core on my rest days. I have one day of the week that I don't run at all and just do yoga. So, It calculated 1,900 for my daily intake and then add the calories I burn that I need to replace. How can you possibly eat 1,300 for just breakfast? Explain to me your ways. I guess i'm just not creative with meals...I like the taste of white potatoes, but I really don't do foods that are bad for blood sugar just as a precaution

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