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Another Calorie Question

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 21, 2012 at 1:46 PM

I asked about too few calories yesterday http://paleohacks.com/questions/150777/not-enough-calories#axzz271vxM4Xo

And it seems like 1500 to 1700 works for me on days when I'm not working out. But I'm still going to try and up that a bit.

So on days that I'm going to workout I'll try and push the calories with sweet potatoes, olive oil and/or coconut milk.

The question - is it bad to jump between 1700 calories and 2500/3000 calories every other day and should I load up on calories the day of the workout of the day before? Or should I find a nice medium and shoot for 2300 everyday?

6'4" and 185

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on September 21, 2012
at 02:31 PM

I posted a link to this study on another post this morning -- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=17583796&dopt=AbstractPlus. The interesting thing is that on a Paleo diet, people eat fewer calories by choice. It could be that we have the whole calorie thing wrong. If you are functioning, and functioning well -- that's all the evidence I need that I am eating appropriately.

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at 02:20 PM

That makes sense. I just find it odd that I've been functioning on so few calories and it made me wonder about the long term effects of doing so.

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on September 21, 2012
at 03:28 PM

Like CD mentioned, leangains and others recomend higher calories on workout days. Others recommend a 'zig zig', and others only when hungry. :) More extremes like alternate fasting work great for others. I hardly think you can do it wrong, ha, our bodies can handle it all.

Only thing I can thing to mention that may be helpful would be to think of food a 'refueling' rather then 'prefueling'. Some great benefits seem to come from doing your workout fasted, and then refueling afterwards. There is some debate on how soon after, but it seems to be if you are trying to cut, go ahead and wait a couple hours after the work out to eat (thereby extending the increased fat oxidation of the workout), if you are trying to gain, eat immediately after (to feed those now highly insulin sensitive muscles).

In summary: Nah, not bad at all to alternate high/low calories. Maybe even good.
Maybe try fasted workouts and eat at somepoint there-after.

PS I find that if I have a low calorie day, say 1600, then try to IF the next day until a fasted lunch workout, I sometimes cannot make it and 'have' to eat 'early'. If I have a more moderate 2000 the day prior I'm usulally fine.

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on September 21, 2012
at 02:01 PM

Let your appetite decide. That's what it's there for (unless you choose to confuse it by basing your diet on glood glucose spiking refined carbohydrates).

The concept of calories (as applied to nutrition) has only been around for just over 100 years. Calorie counting as a method of weight control was only invented in the 1940s We've been letting out appetite control our food intake for at least 200 million years before that.

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on September 21, 2012
at 01:49 PM

Imo it is best not to give the matter too much thought.

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on September 21, 2012
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leangains has the concept of eating based upon your caloric need (i.e. eating more of workout days, less of rest days). But I agree with the other two posters. Do what your body tells you to. If you are hungry eat. If you want to add calories, don't force yourself to eat more volume, just eat more energy dense foods (i.e. more calories/g). Force feeding yourself is never a good idea.

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on September 21, 2012
at 02:20 PM

That makes sense. I just find it odd that I've been functioning on so few calories and it made me wonder about the long term effects of doing so.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on September 21, 2012
at 02:31 PM

I posted a link to this study on another post this morning -- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=17583796&dopt=AbstractPlus. The interesting thing is that on a Paleo diet, people eat fewer calories by choice. It could be that we have the whole calorie thing wrong. If you are functioning, and functioning well -- that's all the evidence I need that I am eating appropriately.

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on September 21, 2012
at 04:45 PM

Eat until you are satisfied and eat 2-3 meals a day. Counting calories is pointless because the hormonal effects from what you eat have a lot more to say about your body composition. Check out Good Calories Bad Calories or Why We get Fat. You'll never care about counting calories again.

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