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Trying out this online personal trainer thing. I am skeptical - can I make this paleo or is she just giving me crappy advice

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 13, 2013 at 8:59 PM

I mostly did this to get access to a personalized workout program from a real person without paying the trainer in person fees. I expected some level of SAD stupidity in the diet section but the meal plan I have been given seems to be filled with bad enough advice I wonder if I should listen to a damn thing she says in any area.

Female, 28 5'4 at 225 pounds. I will be working out most days of the week (via her plan). She has me eating between 1200-1300 calories of all low fat crap (which I wont touch). Desert pudding cups?? Really?? I specified no processed crap. sighs. But point is - isnt that just downright unsafe metabolically? My bmr puts me at over 2000 so wouldnt 1400-1750 be the best range? I sent the following message

"I understand that the meal plan is a work in progress. I saw a lot of positives but I also noticed that I am eating a very low calorie diet. My bmr puts me at consuming over 2000 to maintain. If I am going to be active I need to have appropriate fuel. Will 1200 provide this as well as all of the nurients needed? Would 1400-1600 be appropriate? Thank you:)"

her response:

"Anywhere from 1200-1400 would be fine. Let's see how you feel this first week. If you feel like you're getting too hungry, we can always pop another 100-200 calorie snack in there. This gives us some wiggle room. Sound good?"

So Im really a bit unsure of what to do. I found out that instead of it being a 30 day MONEY BACK guaruntee its actually a 30 day "you can trade trainers" ugaruntee. Problem is you cant speak to them first so I want to be sure before I jump ship. At least she doesnt have me eating egg whites (I wouldnt).

Advice? I mean really if all else fails Ill just completely ignore the diet plan but its hard to trust someone at all if they are telling you to eat junk food. I see that she is fine with some tinkering but it just worries me she would suggest that out of the gate.

update

I cyberstalked some of the other trainers and found one that follows something much closer to paleo principles. Hope the switchover process wont be a hassle!

update 2

I am happy to report that the customer service was very prompt and friendly. I am now switched over no hassle at all.

I will leave this post (unless it is deemed unnecessary) in the hopes that it can help someone in the future.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on March 13, 2013
at 11:56 PM

That's really sad. I would never give you that kind of advice if you were my client.

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on March 13, 2013
at 11:17 PM

Oh and Dragonfly actually no. The thing that really impressed me at first was how many real degrees my trainer has. From an actual real college not just certificates.

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on March 13, 2013
at 11:16 PM

There is no one to really "ask" Luisa. The website has some really slick advertising. They word things in such a way that your brain reads what it wants/is used to. Only on closely scrutinized second glance do you see things like "30 day no risk guarantee" really means 30 days you can switch your trainer to another blindly without speaking to anyone first. Im not one who normally falls for this kinda thing but I did this time *sighs*.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on March 13, 2013
at 10:10 PM

Argh! Sounds like someone who did a weekend training course...

6f460c9c78b50f676a184afa3c7cdacb

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on March 13, 2013
at 09:49 PM

Tracie D. She was nice and supportive. And she really tried with the nutrition component but could only do so much with her system there. At the time I kept a journal through myfitnesspal.com and just plugged in my numbers. I'm still skeptical about the calorie advice though -- at one point she recommended less than 1200 calories. I'm not exactly a delicate flower at 5'7" 180lbs. Just make sure to sanity check the advice. I used her mostly for workout ideas, etc. Don't forget that you're the customer! Speak up when it doesn't seem right and ask questions. Tracie was great with answers!

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on March 13, 2013
at 09:46 PM

Lol I deserved that.

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on March 13, 2013
at 09:35 PM

Yep it sure is. Do you mind sharing trainer you had if it was a positive experience?

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

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on March 13, 2013
at 09:29 PM

Can you ask for a lowcarb/paleo/atkins/keto trainer? Then it will be easier to adjust the meal plan.

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

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on March 13, 2013
at 09:26 PM

I wouldn't trust them either because I know better than eating low-fat low-calorie meals. Not only will you be hungry, it could be dangerous for your health.

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6f460c9c78b50f676a184afa3c7cdacb

on March 13, 2013
at 09:33 PM

Is it Fitorbit?

Sounds like a similar situation that I had earlier last year. I had a coupon to try the website for 6 months so I jumped in -- I felt like I needed some exercise guidance.

The diet portion of the site was pretty much nonsense. I told the trainer at the initial meeting that I followed a Paleo diet and she was all for it. Unfortunately there's very little she could do for be on the website. I think they have to tow the company line and be a cheerleader for a the low fat, low taste, low nutrition diet. We spoke through email about food and she tried sending me paleo recipes (at least she tried).

The exercise recommendations were fine but not worth the money I was paying for the subscription.

At this point I'd just have a frank conversation with her about your philosophy about nutrition -- "Thanks, but I don't eat processed garbage!" I'm sure many of the people they see on their site follow a SAD diet so you're ahead of the game!

Good luck!

6f460c9c78b50f676a184afa3c7cdacb

(25)

on March 13, 2013
at 09:49 PM

Tracie D. She was nice and supportive. And she really tried with the nutrition component but could only do so much with her system there. At the time I kept a journal through myfitnesspal.com and just plugged in my numbers. I'm still skeptical about the calorie advice though -- at one point she recommended less than 1200 calories. I'm not exactly a delicate flower at 5'7" 180lbs. Just make sure to sanity check the advice. I used her mostly for workout ideas, etc. Don't forget that you're the customer! Speak up when it doesn't seem right and ask questions. Tracie was great with answers!

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on March 13, 2013
at 09:35 PM

Yep it sure is. Do you mind sharing trainer you had if it was a positive experience?

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on March 13, 2013
at 09:18 PM

How is this set up? I can do better than that. I'd put you on unweighed, unmeasured paleo, teach you Seth Robert's flavor/calorie association theory. Wait about a month or two, and then suggest calorie restriction and tell you to up the nutrient density if you aren't already happy. If there were enough of you out there, I'd quit my job and just take calls from everyone from the grocery store fretting over purchases. It seems to me people freak out the most at the grocery store, often when they are tired, hungry, and don't know which of five less than stellar choices are the best choice to make right now.

If the money is lost it is lost. Don't bother screwing up your health following a single word this idiot says. You could fool with them- switch from trainer to trainer, making it explicit that they are terrible people for not recommending natural foods. I don't know how much entertainment you could get out of that. Probably not how much money you spent. Did you do this via credit card? Maybe you can stop payment.

C836b2644e7319bb957fbb794a97708e

on March 13, 2013
at 09:46 PM

Lol I deserved that.

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on March 13, 2013
at 09:17 PM

Precision Nutrition - similar non-paleo support plan, no processed junk food

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