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What do you think about caffeine in general?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 21, 2011 at 2:52 AM

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/caffeine.shtml Ray's caffeine ideas have made me think more about it.

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on May 22, 2012
at 12:10 AM

I think this may be the first time anyone has ever considered me a conservative, in any respect, lol. Whatever, I think my comment was just a reflection of how in tune I am with my own body more than anything else. *shrug*

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on May 21, 2012
at 03:07 PM

Or just drink your coffee with a bunch of sugar.

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on May 21, 2012
at 03:06 PM

Your conservatism is unsettling.

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on April 06, 2012
at 05:52 PM

I really miss majkinetor :(

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on September 13, 2011
at 06:49 AM

Coffee reduces weight and appetite on its own. Its regular content of most cremes used to treat abdominal fat or cellulite.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 13, 2011
at 06:48 AM

Actually, small doses seem to be more harmful then larger doses. 5 or more coffees per day showed none of the hypertensive and adrenalin effects that people show on 1-2 cups a day. Adaptation.

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on July 22, 2011
at 01:32 PM

Like I said,everyone is different.I work third shift two days a week(one of them is generally a 10 hour shift),and it was starting to become a crutch for me.I love the taste of coffee,but it's just not my friend right now.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 21, 2011
at 07:15 PM

You mention the mid-afternoon crashes and from doing both a non-caffeine experiment and adjusting my carbs from day to night, I found that the latter experiment is what helped me overcome the crashes. It had nothing to do with caffeine.

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on July 21, 2011
at 05:18 PM

Maybe the benefits outweigh the detrimental side of it

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on July 21, 2011
at 04:32 PM

He'd view adrenal insufficiency more in line with Bryan Walsh's view that it's a hypothalamus problem not an adrenal problem. It's not that coffee cannot ever be a problem but that it's not a problem in the context of his diet which would be providing the hypothalamus all the materials it needs to be functional. He sees thyroid dis-regulation as a much larger problem than adrenal insufficiency.

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on July 21, 2011
at 04:28 PM

loving the RayPeatHacks.

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on July 21, 2011
at 05:28 AM

What thoughts did you have when you were thinking about it?

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on July 21, 2011
at 02:12 PM

Thanks for the article. Pre-paleo I think it was a necessity for me because I was on the grain roller coaster that just made mornings awful. So I sort of love/hated it. Now that I'm eating cleanly and wake up easier/have more energy, my morning coffee is my friend. Taking the "need" for it away has let me enjoy it. I'm actually sipping from my mug and typing right now! Great way to start my day.

In general it's one of those things that some people will do well with and others won't.

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on July 21, 2011
at 01:33 PM

I stopped drinking coffee and black tea a few weeks ago as an experiment, and I am not going back.I have more energy(bye bye mid-day work crashes),and my formerly flagging libido has returned.Skin looks better,teeth looks better.Think it's just a matter of personal body chemistry,though.I was an amphetamine addict and have gluten ataxia,so my nervous system doesn't function at top level.

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on July 22, 2011
at 01:32 PM

Like I said,everyone is different.I work third shift two days a week(one of them is generally a 10 hour shift),and it was starting to become a crutch for me.I love the taste of coffee,but it's just not my friend right now.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on July 21, 2011
at 07:15 PM

You mention the mid-afternoon crashes and from doing both a non-caffeine experiment and adjusting my carbs from day to night, I found that the latter experiment is what helped me overcome the crashes. It had nothing to do with caffeine.

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on July 21, 2011
at 04:55 AM

Having read the article, I have to wonder how human beings ever evolved without it.

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B0454de6d4f4cdd9ca2e59021dc105bf

on July 21, 2011
at 05:26 AM

Ing general, I like it. Tastes good, keeps me awake.

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on July 21, 2011
at 04:46 PM

Caffeine often gives me headaches and makes me extremely irritable in higher doses (or normal doses taken over a longer period of time, say, everyday for a week) so I tend to stay away from it although I thoroughly enjoy the taste of coffee. I don't see that it is necessary to incorporate into a healthy lifestyle. On occassion I'll partake but more often than not I'll drink 95% decaf/5% caf (if I make it myself) as a treat. I think the notion of elevating caffeine beyond a drug, as per the article, is going a little far.

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on May 22, 2012
at 12:10 AM

I think this may be the first time anyone has ever considered me a conservative, in any respect, lol. Whatever, I think my comment was just a reflection of how in tune I am with my own body more than anything else. *shrug*

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on May 21, 2012
at 03:06 PM

Your conservatism is unsettling.

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on July 21, 2011
at 04:25 PM

I'm still not sure on caffeine. That article was SUPER one-sided. I didn't see any objectivity there. He didn't even mention the adrenal glands...

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on July 21, 2011
at 04:32 PM

He'd view adrenal insufficiency more in line with Bryan Walsh's view that it's a hypothalamus problem not an adrenal problem. It's not that coffee cannot ever be a problem but that it's not a problem in the context of his diet which would be providing the hypothalamus all the materials it needs to be functional. He sees thyroid dis-regulation as a much larger problem than adrenal insufficiency.

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on July 21, 2011
at 02:57 PM

A very interesting article - but remember 'correlation does not equal causation'! Personally I love coffee, but there is a high level of acrylamide in instant coffee so I limit instant coffee to one a day. Ground coffee is enjoyable but can disrupt my sleep, so again I limit it to one a day.

IIRC, coffee increases cortisol, so if you are fasting, coffee can help you get through the hunger. Whether you want to repeatedly stimulate your cortisol receptors chronically and regularly is another matter. It may be best to skip coffee every other day, or at least vary your intake.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 13, 2011
at 06:49 AM

Coffee reduces weight and appetite on its own. Its regular content of most cremes used to treat abdominal fat or cellulite.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on April 06, 2012
at 05:52 PM

I really miss majkinetor :(

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on May 21, 2012
at 03:07 PM

Or just drink your coffee with a bunch of sugar.

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on July 21, 2011
at 02:38 PM

I see caffeine in the same light as anything else people digest: it effects everyone differently and you can find evidence for healthful and deleterious effects that are attributed to it.

I think caffeine in small doses (1-2 cups of coffee or several cups of tea) is fine for most people and can be a great treat. It can even be beneficial; however, I agree with the poster who said it is personal. I can handle caffeine just fine, but my husband gets headaches and other annoying/painful side effects from it so he avoids it.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 13, 2011
at 06:48 AM

Actually, small doses seem to be more harmful then larger doses. 5 or more coffees per day showed none of the hypertensive and adrenalin effects that people show on 1-2 cups a day. Adaptation.

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