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re-bringing up Caffeine

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Created July 20, 2011 at 4:44 AM

There were some people out there who had eliminated caffeine completely and had amazing results, especially on mood. Would you care to elaborate? I have so far had success with it and it has been almost a week.

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on July 21, 2011
at 05:03 AM

Because it's a drug of addiction with side effects like stress and anxiety

Bcad307b240275ae3f5820ba6eb4a712

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on July 20, 2011
at 10:07 PM

You can always go back. I'm a big fan of 30 day challenges. Pick a thing that you really enjoy, and don't do it for 30 days to see how you feel without it. I'm at the beginning of a "no added sugar or sweetener" challenge. Oy. But, its a good way to asses your relationship with a thing.

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on July 20, 2011
at 06:18 PM

It makes sense that the gut is known as the second brain. Everything I've done to repair my sensitive digestive system has had positive repercussions on my mental health. It's bound to be more than just a coincidence. I'd love to get some tests done some day. I imagine they'd be very revealing. I'm glad you were able to find relief through your diet. That's fantastic! :)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 20, 2011
at 04:51 PM

you should try just based off of other people saying it has worked. Personally, I want to see if other people have same responses as me.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 20, 2011
at 04:49 PM

I too was really enjoying that one cup in the morning. But for example, i went paleo and was still struggling playing golf. Now I'm caffeine free, I feel like I can play golf again. I don't understand it, but it's working so far.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 20, 2011
at 04:46 PM

David Moss. You were the one. It might be for me too that caffeine free is better than going paleo for me. However, caffeine isn't really paleo, it should be part of the no-no list, instead of being accepted in moderation

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on July 20, 2011
at 03:06 PM

"3 months off coffee had a greater impact on my mood and health than 'going Paleo'" Exactly the same with me. Also sympathy for "I've been drinking it for the past two weeks (thank you insomnia) after "being 3 months sober"- same thing has happened to me more times than I can count.

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on July 20, 2011
at 02:51 PM

I am so conflicted about coffee. I have been a tea drinker for years, but would have an occasional cuppa coffee with terrible results: racing heartbeat, insomnia etc. However when I travel I seem better able to tolerate coffee and enjoy at least a cappucino a day. I've always thought that if I drank enough coffee I would get used to it so have been drinking about 1/2 coffee 1/2 cream about 12 oz a day. I've enjoyed it and the effects are bearable, but I hate to be addicted to anything. Thank you for sharing your experience with this divine/dreadful substance.

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on July 20, 2011
at 01:35 PM

That thread disappeared, and I don't know why. I'd like to figure that out before I type out an answer again.

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on July 20, 2011
at 10:05 AM

me too, it has caused me a lot of pain the past. search out swiss water decaf though, tastes as good as the real deal and doesn't use nasty chemicals to remove the caffeine. you'll love itQ!

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on July 20, 2011
at 10:03 AM

I'm the same with caffeine and sugar sensitivity - have had long-running hypoglycemia which has ruined my life pretty much. But it's almost fixed now with a high fat, VLC and minimal coffee and sugar. I've learnt the hard way with caffeine especially - it has triggered some vicious panic attacks in the past but I'm learning to leave it aside for my own good!

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on July 20, 2011
at 10:01 AM

Huge gut/mind connection - the gut is known as the "second brain". I've just had some testing here in Oz called Bio Screen - it's a faecal sample and measures some of the known strains of gut bacteria and then recommends treatment based on this. Used commonly for those with CFS, autism and other problems. It's interesting because it tallied with some urine organic acids testing I had done via Metametrix which made very similar recommendations about amino acids to take to help produce neurotransmitters which I'm having trouble creating with my current gut state and nutritional status.

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on July 20, 2011
at 05:12 AM

it may be a person to person thing, which I don't prefer, I'd rather things works across the board, but so far, for some reason, eliminating caffeine has allowed my mind to relax a lot.

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B1fcaceba952861d0324bdb291edbbe0

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on July 20, 2011
at 08:13 AM

I love coffee ... a warm cup with heavy cream in the morning is pure bliss ...

BUT

I am hyper-senstive to it (among other things). And the moment I start to drink it I can feel a change. I get high. No joke high. I'm bouncing off the walls. Everything suddenly seems funnier, the world is faster, my heart races, I can't sit down, I get jittery, ANXIOUS, paranoid even- and all of this? This is one cup.

I've been drinking it for the past two weeks (thank you insomnia) after "being 3 months sober" and I can honestly say that 3 months off coffee had a greater impact on my mood and health than 'going Paleo'. I mean, going Paleo was grand, but coffee ... coffee/caffeine is the bane of my existence.

Note: Some people are more sensitive to caffeine than others, yay me for being one of them ... (sarcasm).

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on July 20, 2011
at 10:05 AM

me too, it has caused me a lot of pain the past. search out swiss water decaf though, tastes as good as the real deal and doesn't use nasty chemicals to remove the caffeine. you'll love itQ!

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on July 20, 2011
at 03:06 PM

"3 months off coffee had a greater impact on my mood and health than 'going Paleo'" Exactly the same with me. Also sympathy for "I've been drinking it for the past two weeks (thank you insomnia) after "being 3 months sober"- same thing has happened to me more times than I can count.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on July 20, 2011
at 04:46 PM

David Moss. You were the one. It might be for me too that caffeine free is better than going paleo for me. However, caffeine isn't really paleo, it should be part of the no-no list, instead of being accepted in moderation

0e395acc856e3353f3f5892e6b09b0e7

(1227)

on July 20, 2011
at 02:51 PM

I am so conflicted about coffee. I have been a tea drinker for years, but would have an occasional cuppa coffee with terrible results: racing heartbeat, insomnia etc. However when I travel I seem better able to tolerate coffee and enjoy at least a cappucino a day. I've always thought that if I drank enough coffee I would get used to it so have been drinking about 1/2 coffee 1/2 cream about 12 oz a day. I've enjoyed it and the effects are bearable, but I hate to be addicted to anything. Thank you for sharing your experience with this divine/dreadful substance.

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74f5d2ff6567edd456d31dfb9b92af61

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on July 20, 2011
at 07:47 AM

I'm much less anxious when I'm off the caffeine. My brain is very sensitive to both caffeine and sugar, and when I'm off both, I'm like...sane.

Also, when I'm off the caffeine (I still dabble in sugar, in the form of fruit and dark chocolate) my tummy likes me much more. Coffee and tea upset my digestive system, so when I avoid it, I'm much more regular.

I'm absolutely fascinated by the mind/gut connection, since the same things that upset my tummy upset my psychological state, as well.

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on July 20, 2011
at 10:01 AM

Huge gut/mind connection - the gut is known as the "second brain". I've just had some testing here in Oz called Bio Screen - it's a faecal sample and measures some of the known strains of gut bacteria and then recommends treatment based on this. Used commonly for those with CFS, autism and other problems. It's interesting because it tallied with some urine organic acids testing I had done via Metametrix which made very similar recommendations about amino acids to take to help produce neurotransmitters which I'm having trouble creating with my current gut state and nutritional status.

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on July 20, 2011
at 10:03 AM

I'm the same with caffeine and sugar sensitivity - have had long-running hypoglycemia which has ruined my life pretty much. But it's almost fixed now with a high fat, VLC and minimal coffee and sugar. I've learnt the hard way with caffeine especially - it has triggered some vicious panic attacks in the past but I'm learning to leave it aside for my own good!

74f5d2ff6567edd456d31dfb9b92af61

(5227)

on July 20, 2011
at 06:18 PM

It makes sense that the gut is known as the second brain. Everything I've done to repair my sensitive digestive system has had positive repercussions on my mental health. It's bound to be more than just a coincidence. I'd love to get some tests done some day. I imagine they'd be very revealing. I'm glad you were able to find relief through your diet. That's fantastic! :)

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 20, 2011
at 05:41 PM

When I'm not into the coffee habit, the sun comes out, the sky is blue, the grass is green and all is right with the world.

And that's all it is, a habit, an addiction. Some have been in it so long they don't realize they're lying to themselves about what it really is. All the warm, glowy, fawning over nuzzling up to a cuppa joe is no different than an alcoholic craving booze or a diabetic waxing romantic about sweets.

Man up, paleohacks! Just break it! We're not supposed to be the addicted ones. Caffeine is a drug. I like it too, and alcohol, but once in a while is good without becoming a slave to it.

Ed

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on July 20, 2011
at 02:57 PM

I have considered eliminating caffeine, even dabbled in it a bit, but I am vexed by the idea. For some reason, I am having a hard time pulling the trigger. I guess I haven't heard enough of a convincing reason why I would need to and I don't want to just speculate and give up coffee unless I really know why I'm doing it. Looking for more than just "it raises cortisol".

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on July 20, 2011
at 04:51 PM

you should try just based off of other people saying it has worked. Personally, I want to see if other people have same responses as me.

Bcad307b240275ae3f5820ba6eb4a712

(923)

on July 20, 2011
at 10:07 PM

You can always go back. I'm a big fan of 30 day challenges. Pick a thing that you really enjoy, and don't do it for 30 days to see how you feel without it. I'm at the beginning of a "no added sugar or sweetener" challenge. Oy. But, its a good way to asses your relationship with a thing.

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on July 20, 2011
at 02:02 PM

I am trying to embrace my tumultuous relationship with coffee. Sometimes I go overboard and do myself some harm and I'm not all that great at restricting my consumption to decaf (decaf is a gateway drug to the real thing for me), but there you have it: my one vice. I drink alcohol in extreme moderation and adopting a Paleo, low carb diet has seriously helped me improve my diet to the point at which I very seldom crave trigger foods/toxins, e.g. anything containing grains or sugar and nuts eaten alone, but I cling to coffee.

Part of me wishes I didn't need the energy boost from caffeine, but sometimes I do. Not only do I love everything about coffee (the scent, the taste, the ritual, etc.), but I also love how it energizes me for work outs.

I'm about to have some more right now. :)

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on July 20, 2011
at 10:24 AM

I'm happy to see that coffee isn't eliminated by everyone living this life because I ENJOY that one cup (huge mug) I drink every morning.

Coffee will be pried out of my cold and dead fingers when I'm 105 (if I'm lucky).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on July 20, 2011
at 04:49 PM

I too was really enjoying that one cup in the morning. But for example, i went paleo and was still struggling playing golf. Now I'm caffeine free, I feel like I can play golf again. I don't understand it, but it's working so far.

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on July 20, 2011
at 04:50 AM

Why eliminate coffee? I drink alkaline coffee with antioxidants and feel great along with a paleo eating habits. http://www.myganocafe.com/coffelovers4health

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 20, 2011
at 05:12 AM

it may be a person to person thing, which I don't prefer, I'd rather things works across the board, but so far, for some reason, eliminating caffeine has allowed my mind to relax a lot.

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(2437)

on July 21, 2011
at 05:03 AM

Because it's a drug of addiction with side effects like stress and anxiety

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