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is it ok to eat a lot of butter ?

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Created May 25, 2010 at 6:04 PM

i love the whole paleo diet, and am really new to it. is it ok to eat butter everyday? 1 tbsp everyday? any other inputs on this?

Af842c68e3d07fa0e35b4274f3acaeec

on September 10, 2010
at 12:26 AM

Matt - I've never heard of that before, that fats have to be converted first into glucose before they can be stored in adipose tissues. Do you have a source for this info?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 27, 2010
at 06:02 PM

You must know that barbell analogy is ridiculous. We're talking about diet.

7431586c21bca496c5a7ec7bd0ca4d6e

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on May 27, 2010
at 07:53 AM

The difference between dairy and grain is dairy is food for a species not too genetically distant from ourselves, whereas grain is not.

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on May 27, 2010
at 12:39 AM

We didn't evolve with barbells, dumbbells, bench presses, 25lbs plates, 35lb, 45lb and so on, but I'd put the smart money that 9.9/10 people here have used them here, with success. So once again, its not all about what was good for the "cavemen", but what works for us now. If you have a negative reaction to butter/cream/ghee I can totally understand, but to blindly toss it aside is very large mistake. So for those reading, self-experimentation is always the guiding factor.

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on May 26, 2010
at 10:08 PM

@LiveForIt: Sure, they are different, and there is factual evidence that indicates that both cheese and butter were eaten before lactose-based dairy was. However, it was not until humans became herdspeople that dairy was even an option, no matter what the form. The paleo logic thus says that we didn't evolve with the concept of consuming dairy, and that we are not, shall we say, "optimized" for it. It is this reason that I consider dairy bad, but butter and cheese are in the "acceptable" category along with coffee and dark chocolate. I **do** cook with ghee on occasion, though

1340fe0b7e7b01683ea33042092e05d6

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on May 26, 2010
at 07:47 PM

I think we may need to define "dairy". Casein chalked milk, yogurt, and other derivatives are ENTIRELY different than the full fat cream, butter and so on that are stripped of their gut irritants, un-needed proteins, and the sugar. In that sense then, dairy is 180 degrees down the spectrum from grains. I could care less if they came around the same time as grains in our agricultural evolution. If it keeps my macro-nutrients in check, doesn't spike insulin, doesn't stall ketosis, and keeps me satiated, Im going to rock it. And I have for the last 6 months with fantastic results.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 26, 2010
at 04:30 PM

@Patrick: Dairy and lactose are not part of that milieu any more than grains are - we've been consuming **both** for the same amount of time. Why is dairy an exception to the same rule that excludes grains?

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on May 26, 2010
at 01:09 PM

Well for some. I sense a growing divide between primal and paleo camps. The former is very useful for battling metabolic derangement, the latter for battling autoimmune issues. I'm all about the latter and have tried adding dairy back in with some negative results. However, I now consume ghee without a problem. Sometimes taste trumps historical accuracy, esp if I'm not getting a negative reaction.

Bdcb2101fd3f1853cfd645094d8ad086

on May 26, 2010
at 01:03 AM

LiveForIt is basically correct, but I want to point out that in order to be stored as fat, excess dietary fats and proteins (fatty acids and amino acids) have first to be converted to glucose before they can be stored in the adipose tissues (by insulin).

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

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on May 25, 2010
at 10:44 PM

@Aaron -- Paleo is not food re-enactment -- it is about re-ancting the evol metabolic milieu.

Bdcb2101fd3f1853cfd645094d8ad086

on May 25, 2010
at 08:56 PM

Define "a lot of butter"? 1 tbsp. every day is only 11g of fat. I hope you are eating more like 150g of fat every day. So, 1 tbsp. is REALLY NOT a lot.

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1340fe0b7e7b01683ea33042092e05d6

on May 25, 2010
at 06:29 PM

While any excess consumption of the three macro-nutrients (fat, carbs, protein) can be stored in adipose tissue theoretically, butter (fat) is the LEAST likely to be stored as fat. So yes, enjoy butter with out guilt.

Try to find 100% grass-fed/pastured butter in your local stores/farmers markets.

Bdcb2101fd3f1853cfd645094d8ad086

on May 26, 2010
at 01:03 AM

LiveForIt is basically correct, but I want to point out that in order to be stored as fat, excess dietary fats and proteins (fatty acids and amino acids) have first to be converted to glucose before they can be stored in the adipose tissues (by insulin).

Af842c68e3d07fa0e35b4274f3acaeec

on September 10, 2010
at 12:26 AM

Matt - I've never heard of that before, that fats have to be converted first into glucose before they can be stored in adipose tissues. Do you have a source for this info?

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Bdcb2101fd3f1853cfd645094d8ad086

on May 25, 2010
at 09:09 PM

If you are interested in learning more about the question of dairy fat in the "paleo" diet (i.e. is dairy compatible with Paleo, that is, with a Primal version of Paleo?) I'd recommend the website of Kurt Harris, M.D., "PaNu Blog."

Harris recommends the use of dairy fat as a substitute for carbs, and doesn't regard the high fat dairy sources (i.e. cream and butter) as particularly problematic.

See:

http://www.paleonu.com/panu-weblog/2009/6/13/using-dairy-to-substitute-fats-for-carbohydrates.html

http://www.paleonu.com/panu-weblog/2010/1/9/a-taste-of-dairy.html

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on May 26, 2010
at 12:31 PM

I fall pretty hard into the Paleo re-enactment camp, but I make an exception for butter; it's just such a convenient way of getting fat into your diet.

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on May 25, 2010
at 06:55 PM

Yes! Enjoy that much butter every day and more!

Try to find raw butter from grass-fed/pastured A2 cows (find locally). If you can't, then try to find raw butter from grass-fed/pastured A1 cows (Organic Pastures). If you can't, then try to find cultured butter from grass-fed cows (Kerrygold).

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on May 25, 2010
at 06:41 PM

Of course it's not "technically" paleo...but I eat/cook with about a stick a day and it appears that lots of other paleos eat plenty of butter as well. Personally, it gives me tons of energy. It really comes down to a choice of fat or carbs for the majority of calories...and fat is the best choice. No need to ration butter IMHO.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 25, 2010
at 07:12 PM

To be clear: the proper "paleo diet" doesn't allow dairy, as dairy is a recent invention and it causes allergic reactions in 75% of the world's population. However, butter and hard cheese are the best of the dairy bunch.

The dairy thing comes from Mark Sisson's "Primal Blueprint" and not Loren Cordain's "Paleo Diet"

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on May 26, 2010
at 01:09 PM

Well for some. I sense a growing divide between primal and paleo camps. The former is very useful for battling metabolic derangement, the latter for battling autoimmune issues. I'm all about the latter and have tried adding dairy back in with some negative results. However, I now consume ghee without a problem. Sometimes taste trumps historical accuracy, esp if I'm not getting a negative reaction.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 26, 2010
at 04:30 PM

@Patrick: Dairy and lactose are not part of that milieu any more than grains are - we've been consuming **both** for the same amount of time. Why is dairy an exception to the same rule that excludes grains?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 26, 2010
at 10:08 PM

@LiveForIt: Sure, they are different, and there is factual evidence that indicates that both cheese and butter were eaten before lactose-based dairy was. However, it was not until humans became herdspeople that dairy was even an option, no matter what the form. The paleo logic thus says that we didn't evolve with the concept of consuming dairy, and that we are not, shall we say, "optimized" for it. It is this reason that I consider dairy bad, but butter and cheese are in the "acceptable" category along with coffee and dark chocolate. I **do** cook with ghee on occasion, though

1340fe0b7e7b01683ea33042092e05d6

(1693)

on May 27, 2010
at 12:39 AM

We didn't evolve with barbells, dumbbells, bench presses, 25lbs plates, 35lb, 45lb and so on, but I'd put the smart money that 9.9/10 people here have used them here, with success. So once again, its not all about what was good for the "cavemen", but what works for us now. If you have a negative reaction to butter/cream/ghee I can totally understand, but to blindly toss it aside is very large mistake. So for those reading, self-experimentation is always the guiding factor.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 27, 2010
at 06:02 PM

You must know that barbell analogy is ridiculous. We're talking about diet.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on May 25, 2010
at 10:44 PM

@Aaron -- Paleo is not food re-enactment -- it is about re-ancting the evol metabolic milieu.

1340fe0b7e7b01683ea33042092e05d6

(1693)

on May 26, 2010
at 07:47 PM

I think we may need to define "dairy". Casein chalked milk, yogurt, and other derivatives are ENTIRELY different than the full fat cream, butter and so on that are stripped of their gut irritants, un-needed proteins, and the sugar. In that sense then, dairy is 180 degrees down the spectrum from grains. I could care less if they came around the same time as grains in our agricultural evolution. If it keeps my macro-nutrients in check, doesn't spike insulin, doesn't stall ketosis, and keeps me satiated, Im going to rock it. And I have for the last 6 months with fantastic results.

7431586c21bca496c5a7ec7bd0ca4d6e

(974)

on May 27, 2010
at 07:53 AM

The difference between dairy and grain is dairy is food for a species not too genetically distant from ourselves, whereas grain is not.

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