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How much butter is too much?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 07, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Is 75g of butter per day too much?

Trying to gain weight and eating between 3000-4000 calories a day. Most of the advice i've read is to eat more Fat. I guess its the conventional wisdom i've listened to all my life, wondering if this is too much fat?

Thanks for responses

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on March 08, 2013
at 06:59 PM

Yes it would. It would most certainly kill me. If I had enough money to be a tabloid sensation I'd absolutely do it. I'd make Charlie Sheen look like Mother Theresa. It'd be so much fun.

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on March 08, 2013
at 03:56 AM

LOL that's poorly worded. Obviously it's related to LDL but an elevated VLDL is all about TGs.

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on March 08, 2013
at 03:55 AM

Nah, VLDL is related to triglycerides, not LDL. TGs increase, which lowers HDL and increases VLDL. It has to do with the liver packaging fat in lipoproteins and soaking up its cholesterol stores, which causes pattern B since there's less cholesterol in LDL.

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on March 08, 2013
at 03:31 AM

The cholesterol becomes a problem if you're susceptible. If you're at risk on several factors - heredity, high blood pressure, diabetic, etc. - high cholesterol is one more log on the fire.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on March 08, 2013
at 03:18 AM

Okay, looks like your vldl was in range. I'm not an expert at all in this area but it's my understanding that very low density lipoproteins(vldl) is basically oxidized LDL and dangerous. But is having a high LDL bad in and of itself? Maybe, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110505142730.htm , or maybe it'll make you the hulk? Would be interesting if you had continued high butter intake while consuming statins and working out. But I'm just thinking out loud now., lol. Thanks a million for posting all that, I'm hooking you up with some ^s.

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on March 08, 2013
at 03:16 AM

That's quite a battery of tests. Nice TG's and HDL. At extreme LDL I'd be curious what your A1C was.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on March 08, 2013
at 02:09 AM

Too much money won't.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on March 08, 2013
at 02:06 AM

Yea,I'm really mainly interested in your vldl levels, I'll start up voting so you know I'm serious, lol.

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(39831)

on March 07, 2013
at 09:31 PM

I forget the time frame but I think it took 6 months to correct.

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(39831)

on March 07, 2013
at 09:29 PM

http://paleohacks.com/questions/36855/i-think-i-may-have-figured-out-why-some-of-us-have-really-high-ldl#axzz2MoiQqWfn I have a vap test at home I'll dig up for ya if you want. No need to upvote unworthy posts lol.

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on March 07, 2013
at 09:25 PM

I will go around up voting the heck out of your posts if you have the before and after numbers with the ldl/hdl ratios and the amount of vldl.

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on March 07, 2013
at 09:23 PM

Do you remember the ldl/hdl split Travis?

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on March 07, 2013
at 09:16 PM

I ate about that much butter a day early on and casually asked my doctor for a cholesterol test a few months later. It came back at 393. I stopped eating butter and it about halved. Something to consider if you're genetically susceptible. Many claim that they eat that much butter with no effect on their cholesterol.

Edit: OK, here are the VAP results from that high butter period with a ^ next to those that are elevated out of range:
TC: 393^
LDL: 307^
HDL: 66
Total VLDL: 19
TGs: 62
Total apoB100: 194^
Lp(a): 11.0^
IDL: 20^
LDL-R (Real): 277^
Pattern: A
Remnant Lipoproteins: 29
HDL-2: 19
HDL-3: 48
VLDL-3: 9
LDL4: 16.4
LDL3: 16.4
LDL2: 84.2
LDL1: 42.8

It's all mg/dL

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 07, 2013
at 09:23 PM

Do you remember the ldl/hdl split Travis?

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 07, 2013
at 09:25 PM

I will go around up voting the heck out of your posts if you have the before and after numbers with the ldl/hdl ratios and the amount of vldl.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on March 08, 2013
at 03:16 AM

That's quite a battery of tests. Nice TG's and HDL. At extreme LDL I'd be curious what your A1C was.

Medium avatar

(39831)

on March 07, 2013
at 09:29 PM

http://paleohacks.com/questions/36855/i-think-i-may-have-figured-out-why-some-of-us-have-really-high-ldl#axzz2MoiQqWfn I have a vap test at home I'll dig up for ya if you want. No need to upvote unworthy posts lol.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 08, 2013
at 03:18 AM

Okay, looks like your vldl was in range. I'm not an expert at all in this area but it's my understanding that very low density lipoproteins(vldl) is basically oxidized LDL and dangerous. But is having a high LDL bad in and of itself? Maybe, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110505142730.htm , or maybe it'll make you the hulk? Would be interesting if you had continued high butter intake while consuming statins and working out. But I'm just thinking out loud now., lol. Thanks a million for posting all that, I'm hooking you up with some ^s.

Medium avatar

(39831)

on March 08, 2013
at 03:56 AM

LOL that's poorly worded. Obviously it's related to LDL but an elevated VLDL is all about TGs.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 08, 2013
at 02:06 AM

Yea,I'm really mainly interested in your vldl levels, I'll start up voting so you know I'm serious, lol.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on March 08, 2013
at 03:31 AM

The cholesterol becomes a problem if you're susceptible. If you're at risk on several factors - heredity, high blood pressure, diabetic, etc. - high cholesterol is one more log on the fire.

Medium avatar

(39831)

on March 08, 2013
at 03:55 AM

Nah, VLDL is related to triglycerides, not LDL. TGs increase, which lowers HDL and increases VLDL. It has to do with the liver packaging fat in lipoproteins and soaking up its cholesterol stores, which causes pattern B since there's less cholesterol in LDL.

Medium avatar

(39831)

on March 07, 2013
at 09:31 PM

I forget the time frame but I think it took 6 months to correct.

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7f8bc7ce5c34aae50408d31812c839b0

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on March 08, 2013
at 03:35 AM

I've been eating more than 75 gms of Kerrygold a day for the past 9 months or so. My total cholesterol was measured in Dec at 231, down from 244 the year before. I think one's blood lipid reaction to dairy intake may be genetic.

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4303a65967884e68bfae59817c227351

(1881)

on March 07, 2013
at 09:31 PM

I mean, ya I suppose. If I were me though, I'd start sucking down avocadoes and coconut products like it's going out of style long before I suck down a stick of butter a day. A can of coconut cream is probably like 2000 calories all by itself. As long as you're eating GOOD butter from grass-fed cows, go for it There's always a limit though. Too much of anything is going to kill you.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 08, 2013
at 02:09 AM

Too much money won't.

4303a65967884e68bfae59817c227351

(1881)

on March 08, 2013
at 06:59 PM

Yes it would. It would most certainly kill me. If I had enough money to be a tabloid sensation I'd absolutely do it. I'd make Charlie Sheen look like Mother Theresa. It'd be so much fun.

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Medium avatar

(10611)

on March 08, 2013
at 03:26 AM

I got fat overeating a mixture of starchy carbs and fat and being sedentary. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it, but it would probably work for you. Eat your cube of butter with lots of sweet potatoes or rice.

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