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Does 1/4+ lb of Butter give you Boundless Energy? Is too much problematic?

Commented on January 18, 2015
Created February 23, 2011 at 10:28 PM

So I tried a personal experiment.

I Love Butter, its one of those things I was so happy to reintroduce into my diet.

Unlike some purists, I do ok on dairy. I did a 60 day elimination, and I had no reaction reintroducing Grassfed Raw Milk, Grassfed Cheese and Grassfed Dairy. In fact, I felt better with them. As my Ancestry puts me squarely in Dairy country being Norwegian and Scottish, ill chalk that up to minor genetic advantage.

That being said, I wanted to see what Large Quantities would do to me. So I decided to test what a megadose of Butter would do to me, at what point does this glorious fuel become a nuisance to my system...

So I decided to ingest a stick of butter, since Kerrygold does double sticks, I ate a little over half a package of Kerrygold Salted Tastiness.

I felt a little odd... munching on just butter...I tried taking it on Spinach Leaves and ended up wrapping some bacon around it and finally just finished it with a spoon.

This was 10 tbsp of Butter, appx 1000 calories of almost pure fat. (plus the fat of a couple pieces of bacon) Im fairly certain its the most fat ive ever ingested in one sitting.

within 2 hours, i found myself getting a little antsy, I was sitting and work and didnt want to stay put, I was doing chair crunches, and sliding my chair back and forth. So i got up and went outside for a walk. I was leaping over things, doing pullups on tree branches, sprints, anything to get rid of some energy. When i returned to my desk after 15-20 min of this, I still had too much energy. no intestinal distress, no negatives so far, ill report back in a day or 3 to see if any longer term effects happen.

... I went home. 2 dogs in the backyard, ran circles around them ,I was practically doing backflips. Went in the garage, threw weights around. Despite sweating, breathing heavy, my body is still saying, GO DO MORE.

I took a break to type this up...

  • How do I turn it off?

  • Has anyone else done an overeating fat experiment like this and what were your results?

  • What potential dangers are there in ingesting 1000 calories of Fat at once?

Ill be in the backyard doing Plyo Jumps.


update:

I have since repeated this experiment with an Entire Block of Kerrygold. I honestly didnt want to finish it, my body said too much. It went pretty much the same way as before, super energy(luckily not on a work day). I ran 3 miles in what I think was record time(didnt time it) and later I did have looser stool, not liquid, just not as solid as usual. Thats the only thing I was able to determine happened. I immediately followed it by a very energetic 24hr fast.

I was VERY Warm after the entire block.

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on January 18, 2015
at 07:02 PM

This is interesting.. I eat very high protien and low carb because I am insulin resistant.. I do this for health not weight and I noticed that when I melt a half stick of butter with my stealk and eggs I experience incredible euphoria.. when I dont melt the butter and just eat the protien I do not experience it..I always wondered this but not enough to question it.. Thanks for your post..

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on September 10, 2011
at 06:26 PM

I wouldn't do it with coconut oil. I ingest tons of coconut oil, but the last couple of days I noticed it makes me very, very, very, very tired. I wanna try butter but I never ate it before ...

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on May 03, 2011
at 02:51 PM

Hey Stephen, just a side question to you: did you consume other fats throughout that day? I know you mention slightly looser stools but not steatorrhea.

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on May 02, 2011
at 04:09 PM

I am SO trying this!

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on April 17, 2011
at 05:01 PM

Stephen, you are too funny!

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on April 17, 2011
at 04:33 PM

Not in ketosis, between 50-200g a day depending on activity level.

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on March 10, 2011
at 02:07 AM

Paleo behbeh can haz buttre?

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(18696)

on February 24, 2011
at 01:53 PM

Maybe it's because Stephen ate his practically by itself, while Dan ate his with a lot of protein.

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on February 24, 2011
at 10:27 AM

I've been having a similar fat ingestion before bed over the past week: Coconut cream with cocoa powder. Add a bit of hot water until it becomes like a pudding. Then top with a bit of coconut oil, cream or coconut flakes.

B124653b19ee9dd438710a38954ed4a3

(1634)

on February 24, 2011
at 10:26 AM

I've been having a similar fat ingestion before bed: Coconut cream with cocoa powder. Add a bit of hot water until it becomes like a pudding. Then top with a bit of coconut oil or cream.

B124653b19ee9dd438710a38954ed4a3

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on February 24, 2011
at 10:24 AM

Shawn - Hah. I thought the same thing (in England). But most of my butter binges have been before bed. May explain some strange things.

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on February 24, 2011
at 09:33 AM

I live in Europe so Butter's (yes, I capitalize Butter) measured in grams. A 1/4 lb. is approx. 112 g. The first thing that crossed my mind with this was, that's not a lot of butter. LOL Is that bad?

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on February 24, 2011
at 03:19 AM

I thought it was inspired by the "Paula Deen is trying to kill you" meme... http://bit.ly/ejjCJt PALEOHACKS IS TRYING TO KILL YOU

Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

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on February 24, 2011
at 01:07 AM

They'll try to outlaw butter if this practice catches on.

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on February 24, 2011
at 12:16 AM

I have almost the exact same reaction when I spike my raw milk with a hefty dose of extra heavy cream. I don't actually enjoy exercise, but on the days that I do this, I have way too much energy and do find myself doing a lot of exercise with no endurance issues- rather, wanting to push harder. I need to get raw cream though, because the cream I get now goes off after 3 days and only comes in quart containers.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:40 PM

ahh. Bacon > Waffles. Trust me!

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:38 PM

FYI......Sherpas do this exact thing during the last 1000 ft of the climb up everest and they recommend that climbers do the same. the reason is due to the thermal coefficient of the atmospheric change and O2 levels cause you to burn fat more efficiently but will immediately effect mitochondrial oxidation quickly. So if you like it do it..........but the effect of coconut oil is even greater because conversion to MCT happens in the portal vein before it even get to the liver cells mitochondria.

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:34 PM

i also used a whole package of kg with potatoes after a double day of muay thai and bjj, didnt feel as good after that. Ive been wimping out on the nutrition far too often of late, am going to try vlc. i had been throwing in fruit and potatoes because i thought i needed it with all the bjj but i think now its just a lack of sleep.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:31 PM

I wish it gave me energy like that.. mine is more of a fight against consciousness..

E0b0d94cebef8ed2371d02ec2ecb5461

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:30 PM

I would guess so...I demolish food after the fast. If I dont go to the point of scaring myself at the amount of protein and fat, I just end up trickling back into the kitchen repeatedly and grabbing apples, bananas etc. Massive calories after fasted exertion is easily the best Ive ever felt though. Not immediately after to be clear, minimum is usually an hour with drive home and making food.

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:24 PM

This is officially my favorite Paleohacks post ever.

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:15 PM

wonder if it was post workout that was the difference? Ill have to repeat the experiment after a game or 3 of Ultimate and see if I have the same experience.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:10 PM

no way I could sleep like this... im concerned about 3 hours from now if ill be able to sleep... Im wired up like caffeine...but so much better.

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on February 23, 2011
at 10:58 PM

AWESOME experience.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on February 23, 2011
at 10:41 PM

I dont watch TV, fill me in?

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on February 23, 2011
at 10:35 PM

"delicious-feast" tag is perfect!

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on February 24, 2011
at 04:17 AM

This is again anecdotal - but farmers all over south asia, (India, Pakistan) are known to ingest several ozs of pure Ghee, more nutritionally dense than butter, when going to plough their fields without the help of tractors etc. and also when out to harvest without the aid of modern machinery.. makes sense.!

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:40 PM

My god, large amounts of Kerrygold are my toddler's #1 snack. No wonder he's such a little maniac.

(Side note: there is something so cute about people stopping us the store, full of genuine concern, to alert me to the fact that my baby has gotten into the butter. Other side note: he's chilled out considerably since I got him {mostly} off grains.)

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on March 10, 2011
at 02:07 AM

Paleo behbeh can haz buttre?

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on February 24, 2011
at 12:06 AM

You could try adjusting the amount of butter you eat to get the effect you want for a given activity, now that you know how 1/4 pound affects you.

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on September 15, 2011
at 09:35 PM

N= 1 tried to mimic your experiment, but it didnt work for me. I tried with butter, about 500 cals worth, I felt satiated but that was it. Drank that a can of coconut cream in another trial, tasted good, felt very satiated but felt more like a content cat curled up in front of a fire rather than hyperactive chipmunk. Experiment three, a 100 gram block of 86%chocolate, 650 cals worth, I absolutely love chocolate and the endorphins rush from all that cacao goodness was like a hit of drugs, felt really good if a bit nauseous from cocao overload but again no energy burst. I was really hoping to replicate your results, but it just didn't happen.

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96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on May 06, 2011
at 10:14 AM

Awesome! I gotta try this. You just went into thermogenesis. This happens when you eat more calories that you can't store and is a nice example of how our bodies like to convert and store carbs as fat, but would rather burn fat first when possible.

Keep in mind, fat + carbs together isn't a good thing, so don't eat a huge chunk of carbs along with this, or the carbs will be stored. Forgot the name of the Australian doc who did the anti-fructose video, but he condensed it down to fat + sweet = dead.

After going paleo I've noticed some interesting effects too. I usually have between a teaspoon to a tablespoon of coconut oil and a tablespoon of coconut milk in my coffee and though I skipped breakfast some of the time due to not being hungry, I can go to work with just a t-shirt under a polo shirt and no jacket in 50'F weather. Since I fast walk from the train station to work for about 30mins; if I wear a shirt instead I show up all sweaty.

Haven't tried butter this way, but man, that's tempting! :-)

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on May 03, 2011
at 04:06 AM

You are a king amongst men.

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on February 23, 2011
at 10:34 PM

Was this inspired by the antics of Homer Simpson?

does-1/4+-lb-of-butter-give-you-boundless-energy?-is-too-much-problematic?

That's a waffle, but the principle is the same.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on February 23, 2011
at 10:41 PM

I dont watch TV, fill me in?

7e65e7c3794834b3526b77f92cabee55

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on February 24, 2011
at 03:19 AM

I thought it was inspired by the "Paula Deen is trying to kill you" meme... http://bit.ly/ejjCJt PALEOHACKS IS TRYING TO KILL YOU

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:40 PM

ahh. Bacon > Waffles. Trust me!

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on September 15, 2011
at 09:40 PM

You, sir, are a wild man. That's high praise. Love your empirical spirit. You found yourself "leaping over things, doing pullups on tree branches, sprints, anything to get rid of some energy." Then, in search of a larger clinical sample, you repeated the experiment.

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B525b3e4b1d6f1cdceec943cdec6eb7d

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on September 10, 2011
at 02:58 PM

This is fascinating, and very fun to read about.

Please also do this experiment with coconut oil, bacon fat, and lard. Do it for us, and do it for science! :-)

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on September 10, 2011
at 06:26 PM

I wouldn't do it with coconut oil. I ingest tons of coconut oil, but the last couple of days I noticed it makes me very, very, very, very tired. I wanna try butter but I never ate it before ...

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on May 06, 2011
at 12:15 PM

I wrote in a similar thread about my experience with drinking an entire quart of heavy raw cream at once, a similar number of calories (3000+) from fat as a pound of butter. It gave me the same "antsy" feeling, like I needed to run around or lift things, despite it being well after bedtime. I did have some intestinal stress, but cream has other stuff besides the fat, and I had eaten three normal meals that day, so I may have just been too stuffed. Someday I'll try it again first thing in the morning, and see how I feel and how long it takes to get hungry.

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on May 02, 2011
at 03:45 PM

Seth Roberts (the author of the Shang-ri-la Diet) did an experiment, and found that eating more butter improved his cognitive function:

http://quantifiedself.com/2010/09/seth-roberts-on-arithmetic-and/

There was an anecdote in one of the books recommended by the Weston Price Foundation (can't find it right now) that said in certain cultures (I believe in Switzerland) bowls of cream were drank by athletes just before a sporting event as a "sport drink"...

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on March 09, 2011
at 09:48 PM

This is exactly what happens to me whenever I eat lots of fatty dairy. When I overdo it, it's almost too much to handle, so I have to keep my consumption down when I can.

It makes a huge difference, compared to my usual chronic fatigue. I am still not sure if this is good for me, even though I believe we should do what makes us feel good.

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E0b0d94cebef8ed2371d02ec2ecb5461

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:12 PM

I used a whole package of Kerry Gold (1600 calories by label) on 8 scrambled eggs and chicken breast. Also had some meatballs...this was a week ago after BJJ and my bodyweight-esque lifting, worked out fasted. No over energy for me, just nice satiety.

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:30 PM

I would guess so...I demolish food after the fast. If I dont go to the point of scaring myself at the amount of protein and fat, I just end up trickling back into the kitchen repeatedly and grabbing apples, bananas etc. Massive calories after fasted exertion is easily the best Ive ever felt though. Not immediately after to be clear, minimum is usually an hour with drive home and making food.

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on February 24, 2011
at 01:53 PM

Maybe it's because Stephen ate his practically by itself, while Dan ate his with a lot of protein.

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:15 PM

wonder if it was post workout that was the difference? Ill have to repeat the experiment after a game or 3 of Ultimate and see if I have the same experience.

E0b0d94cebef8ed2371d02ec2ecb5461

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:34 PM

i also used a whole package of kg with potatoes after a double day of muay thai and bjj, didnt feel as good after that. Ive been wimping out on the nutrition far too often of late, am going to try vlc. i had been throwing in fruit and potatoes because i thought i needed it with all the bjj but i think now its just a lack of sleep.

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50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:06 PM

I usually have "desert" which consists of Raw Butter, Raw Cream, A bar of 90% Lindts, and occasionally some coconut butter. Its usually around 150g fat. It puts me right to sleep lol.

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:10 PM

no way I could sleep like this... im concerned about 3 hours from now if ill be able to sleep... Im wired up like caffeine...but so much better.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:31 PM

I wish it gave me energy like that.. mine is more of a fight against consciousness..

B124653b19ee9dd438710a38954ed4a3

(1634)

on February 24, 2011
at 10:26 AM

I've been having a similar fat ingestion before bed: Coconut cream with cocoa powder. Add a bit of hot water until it becomes like a pudding. Then top with a bit of coconut oil or cream.

B124653b19ee9dd438710a38954ed4a3

(1634)

on February 24, 2011
at 10:27 AM

I've been having a similar fat ingestion before bed over the past week: Coconut cream with cocoa powder. Add a bit of hot water until it becomes like a pudding. Then top with a bit of coconut oil, cream or coconut flakes.

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on February 23, 2011
at 11:04 PM

Ooh, must try this!

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on January 18, 2015
at 07:00 PM

This is interesting.. I eat very high protien and low carb because I am insulin resistant.. I do this for health not weight and I noticed that when I melt a half stick of butter with my stealk and eggs I experience incredible euphoria.. when I dont melt the butter and just eat the protien I do not experience it..I always wondered this but not enough to question it.. Thanks for your post..

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on September 07, 2013
at 12:44 AM

I tried this the other day and it I just got overheated and sweaty.

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on August 06, 2013
at 10:16 PM

Cool post.

Any updates? what about using for fat loss etc?

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on April 20, 2012
at 08:18 PM

This is how my buddies do winter camping and cross country ski trips- all they bring is dried fruit, jerky, and a block of butter. They swear by it for scaling cliffs and 70km+ ski trips. Recently I've been eating berries cooked in butter with cinnamon for breakfast, and I've noticed a mid-morning energy boost that has me running up the stairs of the library and squirming around in my seat. Who knows, may be related!

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on September 09, 2011
at 09:55 PM

I used to have 50-100g of butter in my morning coffee. It gave me nice energy, but not as much as you mention.

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on September 09, 2011
at 07:35 PM

Fat has the same effect on me which is why I take a tablespoon or two of coconut oil before a WOD.

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on May 03, 2011
at 03:06 PM

This is obviously anecdotal, but I have had a somewhat similar experience. I've been eating have a packet (I guess about the equivalent of one stick) of Kerrygold almost every day. It seems like my energy level and alertness have increased.

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on May 03, 2011
at 03:01 AM

I better stop snacking on butter before bed. (I usually have it on pork rinds.)

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on April 17, 2011
at 03:58 PM

Your a brave man! Where you in ketosis when you did this experiment? What are your daily levels of carbohydrates? I know there is a relationship between carbs and the affect of fats in your body. Grass-fed butter is a great food, I tolerate it well too.

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on April 17, 2011
at 04:33 PM

Not in ketosis, between 50-200g a day depending on activity level.

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