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Canadian Butter and food-colouring

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 28, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Note the spelling of "colour": you know you're Canadian when... My question is whether the labels on canadian butter(store-bought) that say: "may contain colour" should serve as a warning to the consumer. I have heard rumours that yellow-6 might be contained in the butter and that this food-colouring can lead to alzheimers. Anyone know anythign about this? SHould I be worried? Also, would there be any alternative sources to store bought butter accessible to the average person? How can I obtain the healthiest butter without any mail-order process? Any ideas, or would store-bought butter be safe(its all coming from Quebec...)?

4147ff909047dad96c488821430a8731

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on May 07, 2013
at 04:42 PM

I've purchased Kerrygold in the USA and brought it home. It's actually not 'sneaking' because the butter is actually sold/packaged by KerryGold USA and has a USA address on it, and you're allowed $20/person per trip of US dairy products. (if it was directly from Ireland you're not allowed to bring it in)

4147ff909047dad96c488821430a8731

(50)

on May 07, 2013
at 04:37 PM

I am able to get Organic Meadow butter and milk in Manitoba. Note I emailed the Organic Meadow farmers using their website and they said their cows are grass-fed (summer) and hay-fed (winter), no grains. (those were Manitoba farmers so you might want to email yourself to make sure the Ontario ones do the same)

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on June 10, 2012
at 10:20 AM

You know you've been spending too much time on the internet when you start randomly spelling colo(u)r both ways.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on June 10, 2012
at 10:18 AM

You know you've been spending too much time on the internet when you start spelling colo(u)r both ways randomly.

B9a9a6a8da79518c72ceb46dcd34fc27

(15)

on June 10, 2012
at 10:01 AM

it is a shame that Kerrygold butter is not allowed for sale in Canada... might be able to sneak it in from the USA if you go shopping there! :)

E12ead3bf63c94b5b619b03722ef554f

on June 10, 2012
at 09:58 AM

Australians also use the spelling "colour"....!

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on June 10, 2012
at 02:52 AM

They are literally throwing out a majority the organic Avalon cream now after purchasing it because it costs more to package it and store it than it does to sell it- Avalon is trying to buy it back, but they have to get a separate quota just to buy their own milk back! So so wasteful and dumb.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on June 10, 2012
at 02:49 AM

Avalon has been undercut by a Quebec milk board- so that's why there's that new organic brand in the supermarket and it's getting hard to find Avalon- it's Avalon milk, just being sold through a middle man who undercut the prices on them. So sad- that's why it's almost impossible to buy Avalon cream now! Mention it to Marissa, she'll rant hard on it ;) We have to bring cream in from the states to make ice cream! It's crazy ridiculous.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on June 10, 2012
at 02:47 AM

Wow, terrence is into dairy passion. My work currently has to buy our BC dairy from a Quebec milk board- it's produced in BC and sold in BC but Quebec is the middle man.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 30, 2011
at 03:58 PM

fermented cream...does that mean its not "pasteurized" and hence is not heated to high temperatures? From personal experience I FEEL better consuming the cultured butter. Perhaps this is attributable to the probiotic properties?

1f96ce108240f19345c05704c7709dad

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on July 29, 2011
at 05:55 PM

The dairy industry in Canada is all but PROPORTIONAL on a province by province and a population basis. It is, of course, silly to say that the Quebec dairy industry MONOPOLIZES the dairy industry in Quebec. I am sorry, but I think it is necessary to point that out to you.

1f96ce108240f19345c05704c7709dad

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on July 29, 2011
at 05:50 PM

You CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT Q.E.D. means PM. Your statement that Quebec "seems to monopolize the dairy industry in Canada" is FLAT OUT WRONG. If you took a high school LOGIC course you MIGHT be able to make a valid argument, rather than silly, unfounded, comments (GOOD GRIEF!!!). "You really should look at sites like the "Canadian Dairy Information Centre" and the Government of Canada dairy web pages. Had you DONE that you would CLEARLY see that Quebec does NOT monopolize Canadian dairy." You should also look up the meaning of "monopolize"; then you MIGHT use it meaningful way.

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on July 29, 2011
at 04:20 PM

yeah the rural family farm isn't exactly burning up the world wide web with their online presence.

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on July 29, 2011
at 03:11 PM

the link to avalon that's in my response is organic local (lower mainland) dairy. There's also a couple of grassfed beef ranches in the lower mainland (I will post the links to them on tuesday when I'm back at a computer and not on my phone)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 29, 2011
at 02:08 PM

Nego...I have recently bought cultured and it had much greater eudaemonic influence.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 29, 2011
at 02:07 PM

I can get coconut oil for $5.99/400grams in Winnipeg(non-hydrogenated). Butter there was $4.50/lb. but admittedly grain fed. There are some farmer's markets around the area so I will be investigating them but google yields a poor lot of info.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 29, 2011
at 02:05 PM

Thanks Bree. The cows are BC not Brooks AB for thrifty's I assume? What brands(thrifty's or some other name sold in the store). Do you know how to access butter/cheese directly from the source(eg. dairy famrs)? I haven't looked into it yet.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 29, 2011
at 02:02 PM

Q.E.D..........

C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

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on July 29, 2011
at 01:19 PM

Cultured butter is just a fermented product. It's possibly better, but I've never had it. Perhaps I might have to have a go at making some myself at some point. Wikipedia has some info. about it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butter I'd think that if you can't find organic butter, then you're highly unlikely to find cultured butter (it's not widely available in the UK).

1f96ce108240f19345c05704c7709dad

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on July 28, 2011
at 11:23 PM

Where do you get your "figures" (presumptions, really) that Quebec "seems to monopolize the dairy industry in Canada". You really should look at sites like the "Canadian Dairy Information Centre" and the Government of Canada dairy web pages. Had you DONE that you would CLEARLY see that Quebec does NOT monopolize Canadian dairy. Quebec and ONTARIO do monopolize Canadian dairy, but that is simply because those two provinces "monopolize" the Canadian POPULATION.

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on July 28, 2011
at 10:59 PM

also listen to Bree, she's yr neighbor.

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on July 28, 2011
at 10:57 PM

google might not work so well. i'd first try to make it out to a farmer's market in a nearby town - that way you get to talk to some farmers directly that might be able to steer you in the right direction. if that doesn't work (or exist) hit up the nearest health food stores see what local dairy stuff they have, if any. good butter is damn $$$ though. but hey, cheapern coconut oil. and more deliciouser.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 28, 2011
at 10:30 PM

No organic butter that I know of. What do you know about 'cultured' butter other than that its 'beyond' regular butter(I ask because I recently bought some and it feels better if you understand me. Something to do with the lactate...?)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 28, 2011
at 10:28 PM

I will have to move still(hopefully Spet. 1st). As to the farms I am uncertain as to what to google. I'll have to investigate but for sdake of argument assume there are dairy farms there: what would I ask?Do you sell to public persons etc.? What should I ask for(eg. at what stage of the production process should I get the cheese/butter?).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 28, 2011
at 10:26 PM

I'm mainly concerned with the source(it would be the same as quebec seems to monopolize the dairy industry in canada). "may contain colour..."?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 28, 2011
at 10:25 PM

Funny. Canadians always bear the brunt of abuse(three-stooges-style).

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on July 28, 2011
at 08:36 PM

yeah, well, anything can cause allergies. i'm just sayin', it ain't no yellow #6 situation. sorry about yr mam.

C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

(1801)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:25 PM

I remember doing this at Primary School (ages 7-11 in the UK).

C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

(1801)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:20 PM

Actually, Annatto can cause allergic reactions - my mam had an anaphylaxic shock from consuming some fish with this colouring (British ;-) recently.

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

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on July 28, 2011
at 07:32 PM

could be they use annatto to color it, which is natural, and harmless, afaik. i'd be more concerned about eating butter that *needs* to be colored, i.e... it's surely grain-fed.

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

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on July 28, 2011
at 07:18 PM

I've been consuming butter for many years without issue, however I can't remember what I did yesterday, eh!

34a367e60db77270bd7096dc04270fdc

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on July 28, 2011
at 06:29 PM

The Brits say colour as well, If you hadn't said you were Canadian I would have assumed you a Euro or a pretentious American =P As for your question I have no idea!

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4
E885a93fd8ead5bd03fb2a48dcf327ce

on July 28, 2011
at 08:21 PM

make your own- pour whipping cream in a jar, add a little salt if you want, and shake it for about 5 minutes until it seperates. Pour out the buttermilk and enjoy your homemade butter.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on July 28, 2011
at 10:26 PM

I'm mainly concerned with the source(it would be the same as quebec seems to monopolize the dairy industry in canada). "may contain colour..."?

1f96ce108240f19345c05704c7709dad

(1061)

on July 29, 2011
at 05:55 PM

The dairy industry in Canada is all but PROPORTIONAL on a province by province and a population basis. It is, of course, silly to say that the Quebec dairy industry MONOPOLIZES the dairy industry in Quebec. I am sorry, but I think it is necessary to point that out to you.

C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

(1801)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:25 PM

I remember doing this at Primary School (ages 7-11 in the UK).

1f96ce108240f19345c05704c7709dad

(1061)

on July 28, 2011
at 11:23 PM

Where do you get your "figures" (presumptions, really) that Quebec "seems to monopolize the dairy industry in Canada". You really should look at sites like the "Canadian Dairy Information Centre" and the Government of Canada dairy web pages. Had you DONE that you would CLEARLY see that Quebec does NOT monopolize Canadian dairy. Quebec and ONTARIO do monopolize Canadian dairy, but that is simply because those two provinces "monopolize" the Canadian POPULATION.

1f96ce108240f19345c05704c7709dad

(1061)

on July 29, 2011
at 05:50 PM

You CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT Q.E.D. means PM. Your statement that Quebec "seems to monopolize the dairy industry in Canada" is FLAT OUT WRONG. If you took a high school LOGIC course you MIGHT be able to make a valid argument, rather than silly, unfounded, comments (GOOD GRIEF!!!). "You really should look at sites like the "Canadian Dairy Information Centre" and the Government of Canada dairy web pages. Had you DONE that you would CLEARLY see that Quebec does NOT monopolize Canadian dairy." You should also look up the meaning of "monopolize"; then you MIGHT use it meaningful way.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on July 29, 2011
at 02:02 PM

Q.E.D..........

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on June 10, 2012
at 02:47 AM

Wow, terrence is into dairy passion. My work currently has to buy our BC dairy from a Quebec milk board- it's produced in BC and sold in BC but Quebec is the middle man.

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Medium avatar

(12379)

on July 28, 2011
at 10:36 PM

Hey PM - you must not be in Surrey yet - in BC we don't have butter from Quebec - we have butter (and all dairy products) from BC. The butter that I purchase does not have 'colour' in it - so when you make it to BC buy the local store butter(thrifty foods or the like) (for cheaper) and Avalon organic dairy butter (for splurge)

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(12379)

on July 29, 2011
at 03:11 PM

the link to avalon that's in my response is organic local (lower mainland) dairy. There's also a couple of grassfed beef ranches in the lower mainland (I will post the links to them on tuesday when I'm back at a computer and not on my phone)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on July 29, 2011
at 02:05 PM

Thanks Bree. The cows are BC not Brooks AB for thrifty's I assume? What brands(thrifty's or some other name sold in the store). Do you know how to access butter/cheese directly from the source(eg. dairy famrs)? I haven't looked into it yet.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on June 10, 2012
at 02:52 AM

They are literally throwing out a majority the organic Avalon cream now after purchasing it because it costs more to package it and store it than it does to sell it- Avalon is trying to buy it back, but they have to get a separate quota just to buy their own milk back! So so wasteful and dumb.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on June 10, 2012
at 02:49 AM

Avalon has been undercut by a Quebec milk board- so that's why there's that new organic brand in the supermarket and it's getting hard to find Avalon- it's Avalon milk, just being sold through a middle man who undercut the prices on them. So sad- that's why it's almost impossible to buy Avalon cream now! Mention it to Marissa, she'll rant hard on it ;) We have to bring cream in from the states to make ice cream! It's crazy ridiculous.

1
E12ead3bf63c94b5b619b03722ef554f

on June 10, 2012
at 10:00 AM

One of the best brands of butter in Quebec is from L'Ancetre. Nothing compared to KerryGold, but better than the regular butter at the grocery store.

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7eba3d743671649c1e06cacce0ba4e77

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on June 10, 2012
at 01:08 AM

Gay Lea Butter has nothing but cream in it. That is the only brand in grocery stores that I have found that doesn't say "may contain colour" label on it. Also like another poster answered, it is most likely annatto which is a natural food colourant used to colour butter and cheese. I still buy Gay Lea butter though.

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C1fb8666b1ae085507a76a4c494e4f0a

on July 30, 2011
at 01:17 PM

Not sure where you live, but in Toronto I usually get Organic Meadow unsalted cultured butter, which has no colouring and is made from cultured cream. Really good stuff, although pricey. Here's a link to their butter page: http://www.organicmeadow.com/our_products/organic_butter/organic_unsalted_cultured_butter

Apparently they do sell nationally.

(And cultured butter is made from cultured - so fermented - cream. I prefer it, but keep in mind that heating it over a certain temp - not sure what - will make it less probiotic)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on July 30, 2011
at 03:58 PM

fermented cream...does that mean its not "pasteurized" and hence is not heated to high temperatures? From personal experience I FEEL better consuming the cultured butter. Perhaps this is attributable to the probiotic properties?

4147ff909047dad96c488821430a8731

(50)

on May 07, 2013
at 04:37 PM

I am able to get Organic Meadow butter and milk in Manitoba. Note I emailed the Organic Meadow farmers using their website and they said their cows are grass-fed (summer) and hay-fed (winter), no grains. (those were Manitoba farmers so you might want to email yourself to make sure the Ontario ones do the same)

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C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

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on July 28, 2011
at 08:24 PM

Are you able to buy Kerrygold butter in your local store? I dunno about Canada, but in the UK, organic cows have to be fed at least 60% of their natural feed (grass). So, the majority of their feed is probably grass and silage in the winter.

Perhaps opting for organic store bought butter is a better option than trying to find a farmshop/farmers market nearby?

Do you have an organic dairy or are there any wholefood stores nearby?

I wouldn't worry about the colour in butter (artificial colourings are outlawed in the EU, I don't know about Canada) too much if it's annatto.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on July 28, 2011
at 10:30 PM

No organic butter that I know of. What do you know about 'cultured' butter other than that its 'beyond' regular butter(I ask because I recently bought some and it feels better if you understand me. Something to do with the lactate...?)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on July 29, 2011
at 02:08 PM

Nego...I have recently bought cultured and it had much greater eudaemonic influence.

C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

(1801)

on July 29, 2011
at 01:19 PM

Cultured butter is just a fermented product. It's possibly better, but I've never had it. Perhaps I might have to have a go at making some myself at some point. Wikipedia has some info. about it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butter I'd think that if you can't find organic butter, then you're highly unlikely to find cultured butter (it's not widely available in the UK).

B9a9a6a8da79518c72ceb46dcd34fc27

(15)

on June 10, 2012
at 10:01 AM

it is a shame that Kerrygold butter is not allowed for sale in Canada... might be able to sneak it in from the USA if you go shopping there! :)

4147ff909047dad96c488821430a8731

(50)

on May 07, 2013
at 04:42 PM

I've purchased Kerrygold in the USA and brought it home. It's actually not 'sneaking' because the butter is actually sold/packaged by KerryGold USA and has a USA address on it, and you're allowed $20/person per trip of US dairy products. (if it was directly from Ireland you're not allowed to bring it in)

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559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

(3631)

on July 28, 2011
at 07:43 PM

it could be that they're using annatto to color it, which is pretty common. annatto is natural, and harmless, afaik.

i'd be more concerned about eating butter that needs to be colored, i.e... it's surely grain-fed. which is, y'know, "safe" but not exactly er, optimal. shrug. i wouldn't want to eat it, but for most ppl it's no big.

so aren't there any farms around you? will there be some around when you move to your homestead?

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

(3631)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:36 PM

yeah, well, anything can cause allergies. i'm just sayin', it ain't no yellow #6 situation. sorry about yr mam.

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

(3631)

on July 28, 2011
at 10:59 PM

also listen to Bree, she's yr neighbor.

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

(3631)

on July 29, 2011
at 04:20 PM

yeah the rural family farm isn't exactly burning up the world wide web with their online presence.

C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

(1801)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:20 PM

Actually, Annatto can cause allergic reactions - my mam had an anaphylaxic shock from consuming some fish with this colouring (British ;-) recently.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on July 28, 2011
at 10:28 PM

I will have to move still(hopefully Spet. 1st). As to the farms I am uncertain as to what to google. I'll have to investigate but for sdake of argument assume there are dairy farms there: what would I ask?Do you sell to public persons etc.? What should I ask for(eg. at what stage of the production process should I get the cheese/butter?).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on July 29, 2011
at 02:07 PM

I can get coconut oil for $5.99/400grams in Winnipeg(non-hydrogenated). Butter there was $4.50/lb. but admittedly grain fed. There are some farmer's markets around the area so I will be investigating them but google yields a poor lot of info.

559aa134ff5e6c8bcd608ba8dc505628

(3631)

on July 28, 2011
at 10:57 PM

google might not work so well. i'd first try to make it out to a farmer's market in a nearby town - that way you get to talk to some farmers directly that might be able to steer you in the right direction. if that doesn't work (or exist) hit up the nearest health food stores see what local dairy stuff they have, if any. good butter is damn $$$ though. but hey, cheapern coconut oil. and more deliciouser.

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