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But, is Metabolic Derangement Paleo?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 27, 2012 at 2:21 AM

I'm not a hater and grew up a totally metabolically deranged fat kid. It took a long time of persistence and borderline OCD to overcome it I think. But I have to wonder if some of the so called "Paleo" recommendations to slash carbs or even some fats (think early Cordain) from the diet all stem from a bias toward correcting metabolic syndrome rather than recommending foods that will maintain robust health in already healthy people.

So, I guess my question is: can someone distinguish between a paleo type diet that is therapeutic in nature (all the AI, ketotic, GAPS stuff) and one that is formulated for someone who is currently enjoying ROBUST health and would like to continue to do so. You now, like my kids and stuff. Furthermore, if paleo is supposed to be the best human diet, why all the caveats and different versions? Marketing?

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on September 27, 2012
at 04:21 PM

I would agree with this.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 27, 2012
at 02:42 PM

Thank you Captain obvious. Hardly the point. I will be sure to ask the metaphorical person involved to visit a metaphorical doctor and see what metaphorical aid they can be given for that metaphorical condition.

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on September 27, 2012
at 07:45 AM

Anyone with blood in their stools seek immediate medical attention, not eat differently.

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on September 27, 2012
at 04:58 AM

Why all the different versions: because we're all different people with different taste buds and we live in 2012 so there are certain foods we've convinced ourselves we can't live without. People way back in naturally-WAPF times didn't have these temptations or luxuries.

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on September 27, 2012
at 11:41 AM

I've asked this question (or a similar one) before. Do healthy folks choose paleo? Are paleo adherants hypochondriacs?

My take is that a lot of people end up paleo because they're sick and broken. Very few end up here in an already healthy state (how can you optimize diet when there's nothing to improve?) Based on this premise, paleo largely is a therapeutic diet - correcting problems that have cropped up over the years. The therapeutic paleo diet is one that is strict and restrictive - one that sets up the body for efficient healing. Things like GAPS, FODMAPS, autoimmune protocols, Whole30, etc... are therapeutic.

The maintenance paleo diet can be much more loose in its restrictions. Assuming a healthy gut and no obvious allergies or intolerances, nothing (in my opinion) should be verboten. There are obviously things that some things that should be minimized, but small doses will not be problematic. WAP diets are something that fits maintenance for most.

In between, are the folks who are healed, but not 100% functional. They've damaged their bodies beyond repair or simply have lifelong inherent problems. They'll need some form of restriction to stay as healthy as possible. WAP with some restrictions, paleo with dairy... diets in the gradient for healed folks, but not quite 100%.

I know some folks probably won't like my characterizing those with issues as less than 100%. But dysfunction shouldn't be considered normal.

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Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

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on September 27, 2012
at 07:43 AM

I imagine dietary correction of illness is relatively similar to prevention.

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on September 27, 2012
at 04:21 PM

I would agree with this.

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on September 27, 2012
at 01:28 PM

To answer a part of your question, I beleive there are different forms or styles because some people won't eat things since "Grok" or "Conan" or even the Geico guy didn't eat it. To me, people like this are shortsighted, oversimlifying, and hold a tenuous grasp on evolution that they use to back-up their arguments. There are people who eat foods that to the best of our collective knowledge give a net benefit to our nutrition, health, and personal goals. these people should be lauded for their critical thinking and motivation. There are also people who are sheep and will follow any trend in nutrition so long as they can rationalize eating what they want within the general paradigm.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 27, 2012
at 06:41 AM

Because as a former fat guy your nutritional needs are different from your kids?

Some people do great without carbs, some people absolutely don't. Some have dysbiosis, some down't. Do you really think that a person who has no health issues should eat like someone who has bloody diareha 6x per day?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 27, 2012
at 02:42 PM

Thank you Captain obvious. Hardly the point. I will be sure to ask the metaphorical person involved to visit a metaphorical doctor and see what metaphorical aid they can be given for that metaphorical condition.

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(5381)

on September 27, 2012
at 07:45 AM

Anyone with blood in their stools seek immediate medical attention, not eat differently.

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