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Are these Paleo followers?

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Created May 07, 2012 at 6:24 PM

My husband and I have been following a Paleo based diet for about a year and a half. We are Paleo about 85-90% of the time. Our house is Paleo friendly and we usually go non-Paleo when we eat out. I see a lot of people on this site talking about rice, white potatoes, and corn. What is that about? Am I missing something? Thanks.

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on May 08, 2012
at 06:01 AM

Sweet potatoes also mash really well with butter, also with coconut butter...

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on May 07, 2012
at 10:40 PM

In addition to solanine and glycoalkaloids, potatoes also have a characteristic known as "mashability." When cooked and then combined with dairy products such as cream and butter, this "mashability" characteristic generally results in creamy deliciousness. The resulting "mashed potato" is often the show-stealer of the dinner table and can be a good carb choice for those who work out, don't take themselves too seriously, and/or like to live a little.

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on May 07, 2012
at 09:28 PM

@Nate: http://paleohacks.com/questions/116719/what-do-you-consider-20-if-you-follow-more-of-an-80-20-paleo-lifestyle#axzz1uBwOEYDB

Bdede2dbc411f2533a7e6f13674ade51

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on May 07, 2012
at 08:53 PM

I see a lot of people on this site talking about being this or that % paleo. How in the hell do you quantify that? Please enlighten me! There are some good answers below. Basically, there are no hard and fast rules. It's actually quite simple: Eat food that is grown/raised the way nature intended that fits in to your bodies evolutionary template. For some, that may include dairy. Some can't handle nightshades. Some may not be able to handle coconut oil. It's different for each person.

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on May 07, 2012
at 08:53 PM

All potatoes contain substances known as glycoalkaloids. The most common in potatoes are solanine and chaconine. Light reacts with these substances to turn potato flesh green. The green parts of a potato are a guide to where these substances tend to accumulate which is just below the potato skin. Ingested in large quantities these toxic compounds could lead to coma or even death. In smaller quantities the most likely effects are diarrhoea, headaches and stomach cramps. Fortunately these toxic substances are eliminated by thorough cooking. http://www.blurtit.com/q587628.html

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"Raw potatoes, especially if they are tinted green in some areas, contain high amounts of a chemical called solanine. This occurs in potatoes as a natural defense against insects. Unfortunately, it can cause problems in humans as well. If you consume even just one large green-tinged raw potato, you can experience symptoms such as headaches, nausea and even neurological issues. Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/369187-what-are-the-dangers-of-eating-raw-potatoes/#ixzz1uDeTfNPi"

Bdede2dbc411f2533a7e6f13674ade51

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at 08:44 PM

I had a smartass comment ready to go - and then I read your last line. Some people make this shit waaaaay too difficult!

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on May 07, 2012
at 08:42 PM

I love raw potatoes. Is that weird? I can't be the only one.

4b61b13ed39e5c5d01fe234900cadcf8

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on May 07, 2012
at 08:40 PM

my husband and a friend of my mom's eat raw potatoes with salt. It's gross to me but they like it. So yes, it's possible to eat them that way :)

11b7b7ba720a5cd43c74a0ef99a16adb

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on May 07, 2012
at 08:31 PM

(1) Have you ever tried to eat a raw potato? (2) Potatoes are a western hemisphere plant. Humans didn't cross over to the Americas (and encounter potatoes) until 15,000 years ago--at the very tail end of the paleolithic era. Had they existed in the eastern hemisphere, paleo man probably would have eaten them. But, they didn't and paleo man didn't.

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on May 07, 2012
at 08:16 PM

I don't disagree with your ontake...but you should know that rice IS a grain.

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on May 07, 2012
at 06:49 PM

Paul Jaminet brought up the notion of "safe starches" a while back, which got strongly latched onto hereabouts. I think it became popular as a way to differentiate paleo from Atkins/low carb ideology. Some feel better with more carbs; others don't.

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on May 07, 2012
at 08:26 PM

Paleo isn't a list of foods that cavemen ate. It's a common framework for viewing foods through an evolutionary lens that helps us understand which foods are likely to be beneficial and which are not.

Among those who use this framework, there is substantial disagreement about whether potatoes and white rice, which spike insulin but lack the antinutrients found in grains and beans, should be included. I'm of the school that says you should eat these foods strategically - for example, directly before or after a tough workout - but that they shouldn't be regularly eaten.

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on May 07, 2012
at 08:14 PM

I've got news for all you people. Potatoes are 100% Paleo. It's undisputable. It's a root vegetable. Just like carrots, radishes, etc, etc. Just because most Paleo followers do not eat it due to the higher carb content, does not make it not Paleo. Things like legumes and grains need to be cooked and/or fermented first, hence why they are not paleo. You'd crack a tooth on them otherwise. Make sense?

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on May 07, 2012
at 08:42 PM

I love raw potatoes. Is that weird? I can't be the only one.

11b7b7ba720a5cd43c74a0ef99a16adb

(3448)

on May 07, 2012
at 08:50 PM

"Raw potatoes, especially if they are tinted green in some areas, contain high amounts of a chemical called solanine. This occurs in potatoes as a natural defense against insects. Unfortunately, it can cause problems in humans as well. If you consume even just one large green-tinged raw potato, you can experience symptoms such as headaches, nausea and even neurological issues. Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/369187-what-are-the-dangers-of-eating-raw-potatoes/#ixzz1uDeTfNPi"

4b61b13ed39e5c5d01fe234900cadcf8

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on May 07, 2012
at 08:40 PM

my husband and a friend of my mom's eat raw potatoes with salt. It's gross to me but they like it. So yes, it's possible to eat them that way :)

11b7b7ba720a5cd43c74a0ef99a16adb

(3448)

on May 07, 2012
at 08:53 PM

All potatoes contain substances known as glycoalkaloids. The most common in potatoes are solanine and chaconine. Light reacts with these substances to turn potato flesh green. The green parts of a potato are a guide to where these substances tend to accumulate which is just below the potato skin. Ingested in large quantities these toxic compounds could lead to coma or even death. In smaller quantities the most likely effects are diarrhoea, headaches and stomach cramps. Fortunately these toxic substances are eliminated by thorough cooking. http://www.blurtit.com/q587628.html

D8c04730b5d016a839b3c5b932bf59dd

(823)

on May 08, 2012
at 06:01 AM

Sweet potatoes also mash really well with butter, also with coconut butter...

11b7b7ba720a5cd43c74a0ef99a16adb

(3448)

on May 07, 2012
at 08:31 PM

(1) Have you ever tried to eat a raw potato? (2) Potatoes are a western hemisphere plant. Humans didn't cross over to the Americas (and encounter potatoes) until 15,000 years ago--at the very tail end of the paleolithic era. Had they existed in the eastern hemisphere, paleo man probably would have eaten them. But, they didn't and paleo man didn't.

2fd93e91bb14e641a2bac9c6033e84e2

(1614)

on May 07, 2012
at 10:40 PM

In addition to solanine and glycoalkaloids, potatoes also have a characteristic known as "mashability." When cooked and then combined with dairy products such as cream and butter, this "mashability" characteristic generally results in creamy deliciousness. The resulting "mashed potato" is often the show-stealer of the dinner table and can be a good carb choice for those who work out, don't take themselves too seriously, and/or like to live a little.

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9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on May 07, 2012
at 09:33 PM

If you are 80-20, the 20% still matters and what it's composed of can dramatically affect your health. Paleohacks addresses both components, it's not just for people with a 100% "paleo" diet.

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on May 07, 2012
at 07:14 PM

I don't really understand it either. 90% of my diet is paleo, and I consider things like rice, potatoes, and butter in the non-paleo 10% as treats (not cheats!). If dairy products make up more than 10% of calories and it excludes grains, it's primal. If any whole grain (brown rice, whole wheat- heaven forbid- oats) makes up more than 10% of calories and you're eating minimally processed foods, it's not paleo but a whole foods diet. If you're eating white rice as more than 10% of calories, it's not paleo, not primal, and not whole foods- it is potentially a "Perfect Health Diet." Has your head exploded yet?

Bdede2dbc411f2533a7e6f13674ade51

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on May 07, 2012
at 08:44 PM

I had a smartass comment ready to go - and then I read your last line. Some people make this shit waaaaay too difficult!

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2fd93e91bb14e641a2bac9c6033e84e2

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on May 07, 2012
at 09:26 PM

Who cares?

I know it sounds glib, but if you feel good eating the way you eat, and you think you are as healthy as you can be, then who cares how everybody else gets to that feel-good, feel-healthy point?

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on May 07, 2012
at 08:13 PM

It would be wise to avoid identifying with a diet and saying 'this is right, this is wrong'

The only certainty is that we know very very little about all of this stuff, we have theories.

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on May 07, 2012
at 06:53 PM

A lot of people got interested in starch (potatoes, rice, etc) after the Perfect Health Diet came out and the topic of "safe starches" became popular.

I don't personally find them safe, but many people do.

Whether or not starches are good seems to be an n=1 thing with mixed reviews. On average (and this is by no means an absolute), people who are more active (crossfitters and the like) seem to fare better with starches than someone coming to Paleo to lose weight. YMMV.

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on May 07, 2012
at 06:52 PM

It's a personal preference thing.. I choose not to eat rice or potatoes, even if some call them "safe starches" as I have a hard time digesting them, and they make me feel very sluggish.

I think of Paleo as no processed food, no added sugar, no grains. I don't eat things that don' agree with me, (common sense, right?) including dairy of any kind.

18d89478c2fbd0a69889ae094f5fa5d3

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on May 07, 2012
at 08:16 PM

I don't disagree with your ontake...but you should know that rice IS a grain.

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on May 07, 2012
at 06:45 PM

Rice and potatoes are fine.

I don't know who is talking about corn but people can and will eat whatever they went.

That does not mean they are not following paleo.

If it did mean that, I could say you are not following a paleo diet because you only eat "paleo" 85-90% of the time. Do you understand or I am missing something?

Thanks.

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on May 07, 2012
at 07:11 PM

I've come to realize that Paleo means a lot of different things and a lot of the same things to many people, and that's okay. Some people eat no grains, some people make allowances for corn and rice. Potatoes are actually by definitely "Paleo" but it depends if you want to lose weight or not. If you do, stay away from starch. The same could be said for plantains. Some people don't make allowances for trace amounts of generally non-Paleo ingredients like sugar, others say a small amount every now and then won't kill you. Some people think grain fed beef is an absolute no-no. Some people are just okay with eating beef. Some people eat dairy. Others do not. I could go on and on.

The point is, we all have the same general concept of Paleo, which is eating for our health and avoiding processed foods that make us feel like crap. We could probably all agree that eating an entire cake is bad. We could all also probably agree that McDonald's is evil. If you are 85%-90% of the time Paleo, that could allow you to eat an entire cake and a Happy Meal once a week, so yeah :)

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