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Bulletproof Coffee and calories?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 18, 2012 at 4:44 PM

I would like to hear from people who use Bulletproof Coffee daily... If you think about it that cup(s) of coffee is actually close to 500 calories mostly from fats. So what is the difference between drinking that or having a fatty 500 calorie breakfast (eggs bacon butter)? Does the coffee keep hunger at bay for a longer period , does it give you more energy... I am just curious. Personally I dont like to drink my calories--but that is just me

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on March 19, 2013
at 12:17 PM

On days you don't have it, do you notice that your energy is lower and you kind of want it? Any sort of dependency there?

F02990386b12528111740ad6279ba29d

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on March 19, 2013
at 12:05 PM

I was referring to this quote "It has been a great approach for me and has made meal prep much easier since I'm only having two meals per day." Wasn't sure how you were saving time. Thanks for the sleep tip though.

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on March 19, 2013
at 03:00 AM

than you aren't getting enough sleep.

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on March 19, 2013
at 03:00 AM

Here is my morning routine: get out of shower, place water on stove, measure MCT into blender, add butter to blender, grind beans in grinder. Get dressed while water comes to a boil. Add coffee to french press, add water, allow to steep for about 4 minutes while I gather my wallet, keys, jacket, etc. Plunge coffee, add to blender and blend for about 10 seconds. Pour coffee into travel mugs. Add water/soap to blender caraffe or place in sink. Off to work. All in all, probably about 5 minutes of actual work. If your morning routine is so rushed that you can't spare 5 minutes

F02990386b12528111740ad6279ba29d

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on March 18, 2013
at 11:44 PM

Plus blending, plus cleanup. and my crockpot lasts multiple meals! Not trying to be argumentative, just asking.

F02990386b12528111740ad6279ba29d

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on March 18, 2013
at 11:43 PM

isn't prepping the coffee time consuming? Seems like it would take 5 minutes or more with the aeropress or other thingy dave recommends. I can put on a crockpot in 5 minutes no problem.

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on January 07, 2013
at 04:43 PM

@David McC Are you using high quality coffee + grass-fed butter? If you still don't like the taste, you can add cocoa powder. Yum.

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on January 07, 2013
at 04:28 PM

Good point James. People always seems to miss that. Great, mct won't get stored as fat, but you won't be burning any calories since you are providing your body with energy to use. So if you plan on fasting to lose weight, and keep eating mct, you won't store any fat, but you are not going to be burning much either (obviously depends on how much you fat you consume during the "fast").

7f8bc7ce5c34aae50408d31812c839b0

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on October 20, 2012
at 03:30 PM

James-From Chronometer, RDAs in Butter,Kerrygold, 2oz - B12 5%,A 47%,E 13%,K 3%, Omega3 33% - Not a trivial amount of retinol, but no D and less K than I thought. In my main answer you see that I don't rely on BPC for nutrition, my dinner consists of things like egg yolks and liver and I supplement. I do agree with you that BPC would not be good to add for someone who isnt planning around its calories and nutrition specs. But if like me you properly plan, the use of it can really help with energy, mood control, and cellular repair (autophagy). Im leaner since using it. Not fatter.

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at 09:56 AM

raydawg - Insulin isn't required to store fat as acylation stimulating protein can do the job. If you're eating/drinking fat then you're fat, never mind insulin blocking your body fat stores, as they aren't going to be released until the dietary fat you consumed gets used. But that's kind of irrelevant as to whether or not the fat you eat gets burned or stored, because at the end of the day/week/month if you're in a caloric surplus you will gain weight

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at 09:40 AM

Scotts - I did say 'mainly' empty calories. 500 calories of butter is extremely low in nutrients compared to basically any whole food. If someone was eating a low calorie diet then including 500 butter calories wouldn't be too smart if you're trying to optimize nutrition. The retinol content is also extremely negligible. A single bite of liver would surpass it.

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on October 19, 2012
at 04:59 PM

You don't seem to understand something, it doesn't get stored as fat, you burn it off as the MCTs give you a ton of energy, and if you do an Intermittent Fast with it, you have very little insulin. Insulin is what prevents fat cells from RELEASING their stores. So you'll have great energy. Also, it DOES taste great. Your conventional wisdom lens is warping reality. Try it, and THEN if you don't like it you can put it down. Oh, and don't add any sweeteners to it either. If you do, then you will store the fats instead of burning them off.

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on October 19, 2012
at 03:20 PM

Well its obvious now why you're called PoopMeister!

7f8bc7ce5c34aae50408d31812c839b0

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at 02:39 PM

I've heard the empty calorie argument before. I consider a key mix of real A, D, and K2 from the pastured butter as not completely empty. Its the key combination for good bone and teeth health. Not enough D but I think it helps. Since I couple my use of BPC with a dinner thats extremely nutrient dense and PHD recommended supplements (I know not paleo, but I never claimed to be paleo) I get complete nutrition for about 2000 calories per day. I lost 37 pounds and now maintain my weight at this level. But, I have a damaged metabolism so I've done this for energy levels and autophagy. YMMV.

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on October 19, 2012
at 02:20 PM

I couldn't either, I was a black coffee drinker for decades, but if you do venture to try it you may be hooked.

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on October 19, 2012
at 01:10 PM

Like my martini - just wave that vermouth bottle. I am dying laughing here.

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on October 19, 2012
at 01:07 PM

It is surprisingly delicious. I hate this word, but it's creamy.

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on October 19, 2012
at 12:27 PM

Same here, I can't imagine using anywhere near 500 calories worth of fat in my coffee.

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on October 19, 2012
at 08:56 AM

ROFL @PoopMeister :-)

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on October 19, 2012
at 08:10 AM

I think it's vile. Give me coffee with double (heavy) cream any day

59fa7cd87fb9d669adf21e5cf3e7ada5

on October 18, 2012
at 11:48 PM

I don't even add the coffee to the butter anymore, I just wave a pot of coffee in the general vicinity of a three pound block of butter and then I eat the butter, I don't have to eat gain until 7:30 a.m.

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on October 18, 2012
at 09:07 PM

Puhlease. Try a pound of Kerrygold and an entire can of coconut cream with 3 shot of espresso, then we'll talk. It's so magical how it keeps me satiated for like 3 hours!

7f8bc7ce5c34aae50408d31812c839b0

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on October 18, 2012
at 06:01 PM

Yes, its delicious. Use a handblender to emulsify it and its very creamy with a nice foam on top.

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at 05:49 PM

Is it delicious?! I saw this recipe and honestly my first reaction was OMG are they SERIOUS?! LOL I have yet to try it. I'm scared.

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59fa7cd87fb9d669adf21e5cf3e7ada5

on October 18, 2012
at 08:12 PM

Three whole sticks of butter in mine, I want the genuine article, it's like a coffee-flavored butter pudding.

A64ed062eb5e2c3407122fcf16c5de6b

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on October 19, 2012
at 08:56 AM

ROFL @PoopMeister :-)

7f8bc7ce5c34aae50408d31812c839b0

(2698)

on October 19, 2012
at 03:20 PM

Well its obvious now why you're called PoopMeister!

Fa666905e4ed72858084dbcfed164daf

(649)

on October 18, 2012
at 09:07 PM

Puhlease. Try a pound of Kerrygold and an entire can of coconut cream with 3 shot of espresso, then we'll talk. It's so magical how it keeps me satiated for like 3 hours!

59fa7cd87fb9d669adf21e5cf3e7ada5

on October 18, 2012
at 11:48 PM

I don't even add the coffee to the butter anymore, I just wave a pot of coffee in the general vicinity of a three pound block of butter and then I eat the butter, I don't have to eat gain until 7:30 a.m.

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(572)

on October 19, 2012
at 01:10 PM

Like my martini - just wave that vermouth bottle. I am dying laughing here.

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7f8bc7ce5c34aae50408d31812c839b0

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on October 18, 2012
at 06:00 PM

I've evolved my BP coffee intake to 20 oz coffee with 4 tbsp butter and 3 tbsp MCT oil everyday over the last few months. Thats over 700 calories by my reckoning. Its my breakfast and I'm not hungry at all until I eat dinner. I find the fat makes the caffiene boost last much longer but at a lower, non-jittery/hyper level.

I do it this way so I only have a glucose excursion once per day after dinner. Thats the difference it makes for me - no BG spikes/crashes during the day so no mood swings or angering. I've actually measured my BG before and after the bulletproof coffee recently for a few days and there is generally no BG response of greater than 3-5 mg/dl from the BP coffee anymore. I think my body has adapted over the past few months to this.

I like my dinner to contain about 90 gms of starch each day (with another 2 tbsp of ghee/red palm oil, 3-5 egg yolks, and about .75 ounces of beef liver and some salmon, beef or lamb on it) as I'm hypothyroid and feel better this way. After eating dinner I'll see peak BG spikes on the order of 125 - 130 mg/dl at about 45 minutes and be back down to my normal 95-105 reading 2 hours after.

My BG does seem to run a bit high by typical standards, but this seems common for people eating about 65-70% of their diet from fats so I don't worry. All I know is I feel great eating this way and its effortless to keep the weight off. I can even eat crap once in a while at a birthday party or something and see virtually no effect from it anymore. My dietary choices generally follow the PHD diet closely.

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A64ed062eb5e2c3407122fcf16c5de6b

on October 19, 2012
at 08:54 AM

=> The main difference between BulletProofCoffee and EggsBaconButter is autophagy.

The BPC doesn't provide any protein or carbs, only long and short-chain saturated fats. The EBB will give you protein and long-chain saturated+monounsaturated fats. Neither will influence your blood sugar levels greatly.

With BPC you're not eating any protein from dinner to lunch, which in most people is about 14-16 hours. That's enough time to trigger autophagy, which is our cells scrounging needed protein from junk in the cell. Having some autophagy going on every day is good for you (too lazy to look for references ;-) )

The EBB will not trigger autophagy or not as much, but it has yolk which is very nutritious and also bacon and did I mention bacon!!!

Either will quench hunger for a long time in most people. The ketones you get from the MCT in the BPC are not stored and give you energy you have to use or pee out. See this story from Mark Sisson on what happens when you get too much, pretty funny :-)

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06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on October 18, 2012
at 07:40 PM

The one thing to keep in mind is that a calorie isn't a calorie, especially in regards to the MCT oil. As mentioned by others, I am not hungry till late afternoon/early evening and sometimes not at all. My energy level is phenomenal and I feel great too. It has been a great approach for me and has made meal prep much easier since I'm only having two meals per day.

Matt
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06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on March 19, 2013
at 03:00 AM

than you aren't getting enough sleep.

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on March 19, 2013
at 03:00 AM

Here is my morning routine: get out of shower, place water on stove, measure MCT into blender, add butter to blender, grind beans in grinder. Get dressed while water comes to a boil. Add coffee to french press, add water, allow to steep for about 4 minutes while I gather my wallet, keys, jacket, etc. Plunge coffee, add to blender and blend for about 10 seconds. Pour coffee into travel mugs. Add water/soap to blender caraffe or place in sink. Off to work. All in all, probably about 5 minutes of actual work. If your morning routine is so rushed that you can't spare 5 minutes

F02990386b12528111740ad6279ba29d

(1363)

on March 18, 2013
at 11:43 PM

isn't prepping the coffee time consuming? Seems like it would take 5 minutes or more with the aeropress or other thingy dave recommends. I can put on a crockpot in 5 minutes no problem.

F02990386b12528111740ad6279ba29d

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on March 18, 2013
at 11:44 PM

Plus blending, plus cleanup. and my crockpot lasts multiple meals! Not trying to be argumentative, just asking.

F02990386b12528111740ad6279ba29d

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on March 19, 2013
at 12:05 PM

I was referring to this quote "It has been a great approach for me and has made meal prep much easier since I'm only having two meals per day." Wasn't sure how you were saving time. Thanks for the sleep tip though.

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7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on October 18, 2012
at 05:01 PM

I use it (without the MCT oil...only grassfed butter) for a few days when I'm trying to keep cravings under control because it stalls my appetite and takes food planning off my mind.

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on October 18, 2012
at 05:00 PM

It's how I get morning calories on days I have to work. If I eat before I am actually hungry, I feel nauseous all day. If I take breakfast to work, I can't always eat when I'm hungry. BPC keeps me full far longer than eating does and is easily portable on the mornings I am running around like a chicken with my head cut off.

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on October 18, 2012
at 04:59 PM

I don't drink it anywhere near everyday but, I believe the attraction to it is based off of a few valid points.

  1. Delicious (to most people)
  2. Convenient (small container, mobile, quick, little cleanup, etc)
  3. Caffeine (energy, fat burning, staves off hunger)
  4. High quality and quantity fats, nothing superfluous.
  5. Novel

B3222ea49a60d1d12a9d25f194c0f873

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on October 18, 2012
at 05:49 PM

Is it delicious?! I saw this recipe and honestly my first reaction was OMG are they SERIOUS?! LOL I have yet to try it. I'm scared.

7f8bc7ce5c34aae50408d31812c839b0

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on October 18, 2012
at 06:01 PM

Yes, its delicious. Use a handblender to emulsify it and its very creamy with a nice foam on top.

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(572)

on October 19, 2012
at 01:07 PM

It is surprisingly delicious. I hate this word, but it's creamy.

Ef777978cfeb8fbdd18d75c4f6c4cb23

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on October 19, 2012
at 08:10 AM

I think it's vile. Give me coffee with double (heavy) cream any day

F54a16e4caf4dc8da9ef1369f46a95cd

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on January 07, 2013
at 04:43 PM

@David McC Are you using high quality coffee + grass-fed butter? If you still don't like the taste, you can add cocoa powder. Yum.

F02990386b12528111740ad6279ba29d

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on March 19, 2013
at 12:17 PM

On days you don't have it, do you notice that your energy is lower and you kind of want it? Any sort of dependency there?

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776e2aa4718c4622b7244de0d95ac589

on January 07, 2013
at 03:51 PM

I second all of the positive comments above - 1 cup with ~3 tbs kerrygold and 1.5 tbs coconut oil. Its amazing. I used to get hungry around 10am - not I'm not hungry until at least 3pm. Steady energy, no crash. Love it. Wouldn't start my day with anything else.

(side note - I'm not a morning eater so this has really helped maintain energy throughout the day, as long as I don't fall off the wagon and into a sugar bowl)

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on October 18, 2012
at 09:24 PM

I drink at least 20oz every day. I use about 1T Butter, 1T MCT oil, and a small amount of coconut oil. I love the stuff. I've never bothered to count the calories.

Before Bulletproof coffee I would be starving at lunch time and make a pig of myself. Now, I don't even notice it's time to eat. I often force a small salad at lunch time, then eat a good dinner.

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64b308e68dacee7b9e7c6d20dada6e08

on September 08, 2013
at 04:50 AM

is it ok to add stevia? also can I just stir it or do I need to buy a blender?

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64b308e68dacee7b9e7c6d20dada6e08

on September 08, 2013
at 04:49 AM

Can you add stevia to it and get the same benifits? is it ok to just stir it or do I need to buy a blender?

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on July 11, 2013
at 03:52 PM

Must you use bulletproof coffee beans? Anyone using another brand of roasted organic coffee beans that will not douse you in debt?

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on May 16, 2013
at 09:07 PM

I posted earlier that mine is only 120 calories. I do not buy bulletproof,i grind my own coffee beans brew em up then put in 1 T coconut oil. that's how I keep the calories low,but I swear it works better than my Adderall prescription for focus and level energy

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06fe0db401ec277b6e74fc560772f005

on May 16, 2013
at 09:05 PM

I only use 1 T coconut oil and I am full for 3-4 hours at a time. and mine is only 120 calories per cup. I love it,blend it up on an empty stomach before going for a 40 minute walk in the morning then I have one at 2 pm. replaces my afternoon meal/snack. only 240 calories a day but im saving calories from eating 2 200 calorie snacks.love it!ive lost 46 lbs doing paleo and this is a good part of my weight maintenance.tastes good too

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on March 18, 2013
at 10:32 PM

is there an alternative for coffee? can i use green tea instead? the reason i ask is because the coffee is very very expensive and i have plenty of organic green tea bags. thoughts?

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on January 20, 2013
at 09:58 PM

I drink BPC every day and have for about 3 months. Increased energy, decreased appetite, improved body leanness and a significant decrease in bio markers. I use 1 tbsp ghee, 1 tbsp coconut oil, 5 tbsp MCT oil. Amazing drink and an incredible energy source in the morning....not to mention getting a clear head.

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on January 07, 2013
at 09:55 PM

I do BPC often... that is, when I can afford to purchase a bag. If not I do Bulletproof Yerba mate. Super cheap and the energy kick phenomenal.

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on January 07, 2013
at 03:06 PM

Yep! I drink two cups of coffee with two tablespoons of butter in each cup and I am still losing almost a pound a day! Makes no sense at all but it works! I also make a potassium broth (google it if you want recipe) and add two tablespoons of coconut oil to it and have that every day too!

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on October 18, 2012
at 11:31 PM

I used to drink bulletproof coffee, mainly to help suppress hunger when I first started experimenting with intermittent fasting. While I love butter, I was having a difficult time drinking so much fat - made me kind of nauseous. I feel a lot better with just regular coffee, and still IF with no problem. Most of the time I have to remind myself to eat. Recently, while reading Carb Backloading by Kiefer at Dangerously Hardcore, I learned that coffee contains cholinomimetic compounds that suppress appetite. Honestly, I'd rather eat my calories anyway...

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on October 18, 2012
at 08:50 PM

I use it to help my gut heal from several years of damage cause by consuming gluten. As I understand it, the butter oil (I make ghee from grassfed butter) and MCT (I use a good quality coconut oil) are instrumental in restoring the gut lining. Oh, and it tastes phenomonal. The trick is to use a good quality coffee as recommended here: http://www.bulletproofexec.com/how-to-make-your-coffee-bulletproof-and-your-morning-too/

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on October 18, 2012
at 06:08 PM

If I make it, I use only about a tablespoon of butter at the most.

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on October 19, 2012
at 02:20 PM

I couldn't either, I was a black coffee drinker for decades, but if you do venture to try it you may be hooked.

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on October 19, 2012
at 12:27 PM

Same here, I can't imagine using anywhere near 500 calories worth of fat in my coffee.

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Ef26f888ed248de197c37a4cb04ef4a7

on October 19, 2012
at 10:38 AM

500 calories of mainly empty calories that which don't even taste that great is kind of insane to me, unless you were desperately trying to gain body fat. If I was going to drink my calories I'd make it worth it with a double choc vanilla double espesso with heavy cream and extra honey. It probably has a better nutritional profile/content as well.

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on October 20, 2012
at 09:56 AM

raydawg - Insulin isn't required to store fat as acylation stimulating protein can do the job. If you're eating/drinking fat then you're fat, never mind insulin blocking your body fat stores, as they aren't going to be released until the dietary fat you consumed gets used. But that's kind of irrelevant as to whether or not the fat you eat gets burned or stored, because at the end of the day/week/month if you're in a caloric surplus you will gain weight

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on October 20, 2012
at 03:30 PM

James-From Chronometer, RDAs in Butter,Kerrygold, 2oz - B12 5%,A 47%,E 13%,K 3%, Omega3 33% - Not a trivial amount of retinol, but no D and less K than I thought. In my main answer you see that I don't rely on BPC for nutrition, my dinner consists of things like egg yolks and liver and I supplement. I do agree with you that BPC would not be good to add for someone who isnt planning around its calories and nutrition specs. But if like me you properly plan, the use of it can really help with energy, mood control, and cellular repair (autophagy). Im leaner since using it. Not fatter.

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on October 19, 2012
at 02:39 PM

I've heard the empty calorie argument before. I consider a key mix of real A, D, and K2 from the pastured butter as not completely empty. Its the key combination for good bone and teeth health. Not enough D but I think it helps. Since I couple my use of BPC with a dinner thats extremely nutrient dense and PHD recommended supplements (I know not paleo, but I never claimed to be paleo) I get complete nutrition for about 2000 calories per day. I lost 37 pounds and now maintain my weight at this level. But, I have a damaged metabolism so I've done this for energy levels and autophagy. YMMV.

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on October 19, 2012
at 04:59 PM

You don't seem to understand something, it doesn't get stored as fat, you burn it off as the MCTs give you a ton of energy, and if you do an Intermittent Fast with it, you have very little insulin. Insulin is what prevents fat cells from RELEASING their stores. So you'll have great energy. Also, it DOES taste great. Your conventional wisdom lens is warping reality. Try it, and THEN if you don't like it you can put it down. Oh, and don't add any sweeteners to it either. If you do, then you will store the fats instead of burning them off.

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on October 20, 2012
at 09:40 AM

Scotts - I did say 'mainly' empty calories. 500 calories of butter is extremely low in nutrients compared to basically any whole food. If someone was eating a low calorie diet then including 500 butter calories wouldn't be too smart if you're trying to optimize nutrition. The retinol content is also extremely negligible. A single bite of liver would surpass it.

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on January 07, 2013
at 04:28 PM

Good point James. People always seems to miss that. Great, mct won't get stored as fat, but you won't be burning any calories since you are providing your body with energy to use. So if you plan on fasting to lose weight, and keep eating mct, you won't store any fat, but you are not going to be burning much either (obviously depends on how much you fat you consume during the "fast").

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