3

votes

Impacts of Bro Science?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 16, 2011 at 4:20 AM

How much of does bro science* affect your opinions regardig paleo diet, health and workout? Do you find bro science problematic, trusthworthy or do you just filter it out?

*bro science: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=broscience

Note that the link mainly goes for bodybuilders, but I think the term applies in other settings as well.

25b139cc1954456d9ea469e40f984cd3

on December 17, 2011
at 04:42 AM

In my opinion, the above is not true. For example--mindandmuscle.net, during the time period when I frequented it (perhaps 2002-2006)--was populated mostly by bright and informed posters...

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on December 16, 2011
at 10:36 PM

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude! High five, man!

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on December 16, 2011
at 08:15 PM

The only reason fat=fat is worth mentioning is because so few people here accept it.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on December 16, 2011
at 08:13 PM

There are no locations of public discourse where the majority of people are not idiots.

25b139cc1954456d9ea469e40f984cd3

on December 16, 2011
at 08:01 PM

I'm surprised by the vitriol, not_finbar. I said "Most of the posters." Not all.

Medium avatar

(39831)

on December 16, 2011
at 07:34 PM

I shouldn't have left that pork chop in my pocket...it's caused this little dog to follow me around.

Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

(5332)

on December 16, 2011
at 07:20 PM

I love how you're now just going fat=fat, as if you expect anyone here to be impressed.

Medium avatar

(39831)

on December 16, 2011
at 07:12 PM

I'll take pale(br)o science any day. When you eat fat in the exact form as your flabby gut, the body can't recognize it and you crap it out instead. brb bacon got me to contest shape

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on December 16, 2011
at 06:14 PM

agree with not_finbar. The combined knowledge of everyone here on endurance training would not touch a single prominent letsrun poster. Drop the hubris.

04f2eae4450112cdedce7235923c646d

(1112)

on December 16, 2011
at 04:44 PM

How come this question got closed?

71e078b9000a360364fd039bae64dabf

(125)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:34 PM

Haha, maybe....

43873f3cea4f22f91653b0f5ec7ab9d9

(401)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:18 PM

not sure, but i just put together this awesome stack of caffeine, adrenachrome, and bull semen. i take it right before hittin the iron, it gives me a sick pump and a mad swell. gotta bounce, all this typing is making me catabolic!!! stay hardcore

082bf04a7486991c5e573a66f1404b3e

(813)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:08 PM

Yes, there are just as many newbies; but they're a high-class newbie. A stupid question/ answer here is a different order of magnitude to a stupid question/ answer on bb.com (think how do I get ripped?/ bro u jus need sum tren 1000mg 2xwk)

E242ecf1fecbac866894059f5304b4c6

(318)

on December 16, 2011
at 02:56 PM

I disagree. Some of the posts on this site/"forum" are just as bad as ones on bb.com. It's up to the reader to separate the skin from the chicken breast.

E242ecf1fecbac866894059f5304b4c6

(318)

on December 16, 2011
at 02:55 PM

Somebody's mad...

082bf04a7486991c5e573a66f1404b3e

(813)

on December 16, 2011
at 02:34 PM

mirin' your perceptiveness bro

71e078b9000a360364fd039bae64dabf

(125)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:00 AM

Letsrun.com posters are inexperienced and stupid? What a joke. Of course there's some rubbish - although there is a great sense of humour over there - but I'd love to know your running credentials if you think Renato Cava, Malmo and Wejo (all regular posters) are inexperienced. Hell even Henry Rono has posted on there sometimes.

  • 04f2eae4450112cdedce7235923c646d

    asked by

    (1112)
  • Views
    1.6K
  • Last Activity
    1283D AGO
Frontpage book

Get FREE instant access to our Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!

8 Answers

5
96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:34 PM

Depends on the Bros. If they're Robb Wolf, Mark Sisson, Jack Kruse, Art De Vany, Loren Cordain, Nora Gedgaudas (I know, I know, she's more of a Sistah, but I'll give her a pass), Michael Eades, J. Stanton, Jimmy Moore, Chris Kresser, John Briffa, and a bunches of other Bros cut from the same cloth, then, it's all pure awesome Broscientific goodness.

To quote Pulp Fiction: "Broscience! Do you speak it motherf5(%r?"

3
Fd627132a760e414f2afbf378c8afd9b

(260)

on December 16, 2011
at 09:16 PM

Internet forums, used responsibly, are a great way to fight bro-science. Less than 20 years ago most people's only informational resource was the 50 people they come into contact with on a normal week or the crappy book or magazine they bought. Today, via internet forums you have literally thousands of people testing and retesting exercise and nutrition hypothesis and providing anecdotal evidence....and all you have to do is type in a search.

With so many sources at a person's disposal with the touch of a keyboard, its on the individual if they follow bad bro-science advice without doing their due diligence.

3
1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

on December 16, 2011
at 05:42 PM

2
5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on December 16, 2011
at 05:49 AM

Being that I am a bro, I exclusively rely on Bro Science for my health information.

082bf04a7486991c5e573a66f1404b3e

(813)

on December 16, 2011
at 02:34 PM

mirin' your perceptiveness bro

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on December 16, 2011
at 10:36 PM

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude! High five, man!

1
518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on December 17, 2011
at 03:41 AM

Bro-science can be really frustrating for "real science" because it is largely anecdotal and can be morphed into saying whatever point you are trying to get across. This can be very problematic when people start living their lives according to what those around them are saying. There is also what I call "mom-science" where mothers take advice from each other (which can be fantastic and completely useful), but sometime in medical matters that are very specific to their own children, and should really be done with some careful consulting in scientific and medical literature.

It is hard to take what other people say at face value, and you really shouldn't without applying critical thinking and verification. That's one of the major reasons why science should be made more accessible to your "average jo" and a crash-course in statistics should be offered in the place of calculus in high school (if you do need calculus, you are just going to learn the exact same stuff again in your first year, so it's a waste of time for most people). The anti-science, anecdotal advice "movement" can be a nightmare for squashing critical thinking.

1
082bf04a7486991c5e573a66f1404b3e

on December 16, 2011
at 02:37 PM

I think it at the outset, everyone jumps headlong into the mire of broscience, and only over a period of years manages to extract themselves with the (very few) gems it contains.

Learning about health is a bit like gold-panning in that respect. I think even being aware of the term "paleo" means you're pretty far out of the mire already ;)

082bf04a7486991c5e573a66f1404b3e

(813)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:08 PM

Yes, there are just as many newbies; but they're a high-class newbie. A stupid question/ answer here is a different order of magnitude to a stupid question/ answer on bb.com (think how do I get ripped?/ bro u jus need sum tren 1000mg 2xwk)

E242ecf1fecbac866894059f5304b4c6

(318)

on December 16, 2011
at 02:56 PM

I disagree. Some of the posts on this site/"forum" are just as bad as ones on bb.com. It's up to the reader to separate the skin from the chicken breast.

1
8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on December 16, 2011
at 05:50 AM

That depends. If I am in the same "bro" category as the broxperts, I might take a better look at what they say. The problem I have with the published experts is that they deal either in averages or with those in the majority.

0
25b139cc1954456d9ea469e40f984cd3

on December 16, 2011
at 09:26 AM

Do you find bro science problematic, trusthworthy or do you just filter it out?

Most of the posters on bodybuilding boards are very young, inexperienced, impressionable, and rather stupid. Ditto some sister forums such as letsrun.com.

Anecdotal accounts are extremely valuable--if they come from experienced, intelligent, discerning individuals...

You will find very few such people amongst the brotelligencia (brotards?)...

Read INTJ Dorian Yates' accounts of his interactions with brotards at the beginning of his bodybuilding career if you'd like a bit of levity.

71e078b9000a360364fd039bae64dabf

(125)

on December 16, 2011
at 10:00 AM

Letsrun.com posters are inexperienced and stupid? What a joke. Of course there's some rubbish - although there is a great sense of humour over there - but I'd love to know your running credentials if you think Renato Cava, Malmo and Wejo (all regular posters) are inexperienced. Hell even Henry Rono has posted on there sometimes.

71e078b9000a360364fd039bae64dabf

(125)

on December 16, 2011
at 03:34 PM

Haha, maybe....

E242ecf1fecbac866894059f5304b4c6

(318)

on December 16, 2011
at 02:55 PM

Somebody's mad...

25b139cc1954456d9ea469e40f984cd3

on December 17, 2011
at 04:42 AM

In my opinion, the above is not true. For example--mindandmuscle.net, during the time period when I frequented it (perhaps 2002-2006)--was populated mostly by bright and informed posters...

25b139cc1954456d9ea469e40f984cd3

on December 16, 2011
at 08:01 PM

I'm surprised by the vitriol, not_finbar. I said "Most of the posters." Not all.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on December 16, 2011
at 06:14 PM

agree with not_finbar. The combined knowledge of everyone here on endurance training would not touch a single prominent letsrun poster. Drop the hubris.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on December 16, 2011
at 08:13 PM

There are no locations of public discourse where the majority of people are not idiots.

Answer Question


Get FREE instant access to our
Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!