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Children's Diets...?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 23, 2011 at 7:58 AM

My wife and I are expecting our first child in February.

I have been Paleo for about 3 months, and my wife, while not strictly paleo, eats very healthily and prefers only natural and organic food.

We live in Finland, and she comes from a farm where they grow or raise most of their own food (Sheep, Chickens/Eggs, Turkeys, Potatoes, Tomatoes, Carrots, etc). She is 100% committed to breastfeeding, and hates the idea of using any sort of Formula/Jar/Processed foods.

My question, I suppose, is regarding how people whose spouses are NOT paleo deal with their children's diet?

We are both convinced that natural food and paleo-friendly food is good for children, but in Finland they eat a lot (A WHOLE LOT) of bread, potatoes and pasta.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Thanks,

Trent

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on November 27, 2011
at 02:06 PM

I was thinking the same thing, Karoliina... Though to be fair, Finland does have readily available Organic Honey (my wife's fave), and the Ruisleippa (Rye Bread) is probably the healthiest bread on earth. But I will be trying to avoid as much sugar and grains as I can with my kids.

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on November 26, 2011
at 08:20 AM

Sure it is available, this is not a third world country you know... :D But I don't think grains and sugar would be a healthy meal option at all.

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on November 24, 2011
at 06:43 AM

it's an online course based on video modules and accompanying written reference material; link added

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on November 23, 2011
at 07:08 PM

looks like it is not available to read. are there any samples of this code?

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on November 23, 2011
at 02:34 PM

Who said anything about a "daughter?" ;-) *That's a very girly looking winky face*

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on November 23, 2011
at 01:23 PM

Hey Little Brother.

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on November 23, 2011
at 12:21 PM

If you are concerned about your future child's diet at daycare or school, your wife (I assume she's Finnish) could check out the Finnish low-carb forums at http://karppaus.info/forum/. There's a lot of discussion about the subject. (In Finland kids get a free lunch at school - the food is healthy-ish, no burgers or pizza, but definitely not low-carb or paleo.)

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on November 23, 2011
at 08:39 AM

are you into natural child bearthing? If not, please do research on it, it could safe your childs life. For example http://www.amazon.com/Birth-Breastfeeding-Rediscovering-Pregnancy-Childbirth/dp/1905570066/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1322037513&sr=8-5

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on November 23, 2011
at 01:39 PM

Personally, I dont stress about it.

I know you probably will never get your wife to ditch the grains, so there will always be a supply in the house. As long as your daughter is fed some fantastic paleo friendly foods, and doesnt seem to have any problems with the grains, I say let it be.

Currently, we are providing paleo friendly foods for 3yo my son, and my daughter is just starting solids, all paleo. We however can not control his intake at daycare. So there he is having lots of grains. I just try to make sure he is full of bacon and eggs in the morning, and has a fantastic exciting paleo meal when he comes home. If he starts to have issues with the grains etc at daycare then we will make some changes but for now, No Worries.

No matter what you do, grandparents will always want to spoil children with "goodies" and when they get older they will want pizza and all the other junk too. My son knows that certain foods make him not feel great, and we leave the decisions up to him. Have faith in your kids, and as long as your spouse isnt bad mouthing your diet in front of them, they will be naturally curious as to why you eat that way, and maybe they will give it a shot someday.

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on November 23, 2011
at 02:34 PM

Who said anything about a "daughter?" ;-) *That's a very girly looking winky face*

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on November 23, 2011
at 08:43 AM

I heartily recommend Chris Kresser's Healthy Baby Code

http://healthybabycode.com

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on November 23, 2011
at 07:08 PM

looks like it is not available to read. are there any samples of this code?

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on November 24, 2011
at 06:43 AM

it's an online course based on video modules and accompanying written reference material; link added

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on November 23, 2011
at 01:22 PM

Congratulations on your soon-to-arrive little one! Great to know that your wife is committing to breastfeeding and avoiding giving your little one processed foods.

Others have already given good advice; I recommend also following the blogs of several blogging paleo and lacto-paleo parents as a way to see how they've done things and also what's just down the road from you developmentally (as with feeding toddlers, then feeding preschoolers, then feeding gradeschoolers). As far as I know, none of them are Finnish, but much of the content will still apply to your current stage in life!

As a good starting point, Peggy at Primal Parent posted a list of primal (lacto-paleo) and paleo bloggers here: http://theprimalparent.com/2011/08/25/primalpaleo-parent-bloggers-and-their-favorite-reads/

As for the issue of how folks "do" paleo with nonpaleo spouses, it is hardly an uncommon problem; there are plenty of threads on PaleoHacks addressing this. Check some of them out! http://paleohacks.com/questions/tagged/spouses

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on November 23, 2011
at 08:15 AM

Trent,

Your child is very lucky. I agree 100% on the breastfeeding and not using canned foods for babies.

I do the shopping and I have started cooking breakfast and Dinner. I cook Paleo and then serve bread or pasta on the side for the family.

This year we have removed all vegetable oils and we use pastured butter and the best eggs we can find. I have stopped buying fruit juice and sports drinks to reduce sugar.

I look at it as one small change at a time. Take it slow is the way I am going.

I am able to eat Paleo and my family's health is improving over time.

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on November 26, 2011
at 05:39 AM

I am not sure if honey is available or not in Finland. If it is available you can think of making a meal with honey and bread. I guess it is one of the quick healthy meals. What do you think?

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on November 26, 2011
at 08:20 AM

Sure it is available, this is not a third world country you know... :D But I don't think grains and sugar would be a healthy meal option at all.

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on November 27, 2011
at 02:06 PM

I was thinking the same thing, Karoliina... Though to be fair, Finland does have readily available Organic Honey (my wife's fave), and the Ruisleippa (Rye Bread) is probably the healthiest bread on earth. But I will be trying to avoid as much sugar and grains as I can with my kids.

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on November 23, 2011
at 11:52 AM

I agree that bread, potatoes and pasta are a deeply entrenched part of the European culture, and food is an important component of social and family life here. Europeans dealt with serious food shortages during the world wars, and these foods kept a lot of people from starving. There's almost an emotional attachment to them. Bread, in particular, is omnipresent. Many people buy fresh bread every single day. My feeling is that, aside from people who acutally suffer from celiac disease, most Europeans dismiss the idea that wheat is not healthy as just another American diet fad.

At least within your unit of three it looks you will be pretty much on the same page. It's wonderful your wife wants to breast-feed, because this will give your baby the healthiest possible start in life. It sounds like you have access to incredible sources of great food!

But I imagine it could prove challenging later, depending on how flexible and open-minded your wife's family are and how much of a role they will play in caring for your child. Here in Switzerland, kids come home from school at lunch, often to a grandmother, and are "filled up" with a big meal of meat/potatoes or pasta. Lots of pasta. Lots of bread.

Let's hope that within a couple of years - by the time your baby will be ready to eat bread - the research will have advanced enough that you can say no and it won't cause too much consternation. In the meantime you can get your arguments in line to explain your choices and reassure your relatives that your child is getting all the good nutrition he/she needs.

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on November 23, 2011
at 09:22 AM

Dave Asprey of bulletproofexec.com is writing a book about it (no idea whether it's any good) : http://www.betterbabybook.com

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