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Not feeling full with my breakfast

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Created December 01, 2011 at 6:31 PM

After reading about paleo diet for a while, I've decided to try to replace bread for eggs, for breakfast, to see how it goes. If all goes well for a while, I'll then try to completely stay away from both gluten and dairy.

I made for breakfast scrambled eggs (4 eggs + 130g of bacon), yet I can't say I feel full.

I know I'm not supposed to count calories, yet this seems to be something like 4 * 100 + 275 ~ 700 calories, which seems like much, but I honestly feel less full / satiated than eating a piece of bread with butter and ham, which would maybe equate to half the calories.

Am I eating less eggs than I'm supposed to? Should I put in more bacon? Should I add in more ingredients? Is it that my organism still needs to get used to this kind of diet?

Thanks

B33f7c04c09d8bbbf181dd8aca04f373

(554)

on December 02, 2011
at 04:47 PM

I always love the idea of a very nutritive shake, but I find myself so "hungry" and wanting something to chew that I eat more when I do a shake alone for breakfast.

D117467bf8e8472464ece2b81509606c

(2873)

on December 02, 2011
at 03:07 PM

I eat a LOT of grass fed ground beef and mix it in with 4 or 5 eggs and some coconut milk. For the veggies, it's usually frozen broccoli or spinach with some olive oil.

Ded84388fef90e4209cf9520d1456a95

(530)

on December 02, 2011
at 02:35 PM

The "full" I feel after eating a paleo breakfast is different from the "full" I feel after eating a stack of pancakes. With the latter, it's an almost debilitating heaviness, an "I'm damn sure I just ate something because I feel like I have an anchor in my gut" feeling. It takes a while to get used to not feeling that way after eating!

D89511137c1849427593b3ef172578cb

(395)

on December 02, 2011
at 12:20 PM

Well I went from eating plenty of carbs and oats and milk in the morning with 5-6 meals to a cold approach of 3 meals a day starting the day with eggs and/or tuna and it the habituation was practically immediate, I didnt' even stressed about it. Nowadays I eat more carbs all round for more energy, sleep and libido. It's been working for me.

65435c9df81895b80a7082c1e74d7903

on December 02, 2011
at 11:46 AM

I get the difference between both. Trouble is, I generally "know" I am hungry when I start getting headache (it starts slowly and grows harder the more hungry I am). Although I'm OK with the fact that I'm not full(i.e. bloated), I tend to start getting that mild headache in like an hour or two after I've ate my breakfast.

65435c9df81895b80a7082c1e74d7903

on December 02, 2011
at 11:44 AM

I meant, how are you mixing meat and eggs for breakfast?

5ab7e8f4d72d75a8814d3fa85da65df8

(60)

on December 02, 2011
at 10:14 AM

I think your body is so used to getting carbs all the time, so you don't feel full without. try to fool your body by eating a little good carbs (=berries, small piece of fruit) with your breakfast.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on December 02, 2011
at 03:10 AM

I can just say I usually eat twice that much bacon with same amount of eggs and throw a whole avocado on the eggs....

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on December 02, 2011
at 12:25 AM

How are you cooking the eggs? Fried in bacon fat/butter or poached/boiled? The fat helps to fill you up too.

D117467bf8e8472464ece2b81509606c

(2873)

on December 01, 2011
at 11:39 PM

How do I mix eggs?

65435c9df81895b80a7082c1e74d7903

on December 01, 2011
at 10:29 PM

How do you mix and eggs for breakfast?

183f5c49a7a9548b6f5238d1f33cb35e

(1716)

on December 01, 2011
at 10:28 PM

Can't beat a good steak for breakfast :) With grilled tomatoes and bacon

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on December 01, 2011
at 09:13 PM

If I eat 4 eggs and some bacon, I'm good until well past lunch. But that's me, vive la difference!

83d6a06c93bb3490dbca339cbbb63385

(526)

on December 01, 2011
at 08:16 PM

Grains are bloating. They expand your stomach and so you feel full, but gassy. Eggs and bacon digest easily and produce little waste. I bet what you are sensing is a difference is full feeling, not satiety.

65435c9df81895b80a7082c1e74d7903

on December 01, 2011
at 07:48 PM

The package stated 130g of bacon, 275kcal per 100g (so actually, it would be something like 275+82 cals. That's all I know.

1ec4e7ca085b7f8d5821529653e1e35a

(5506)

on December 01, 2011
at 06:59 PM

how much bacon are you eating exactly... Bacon is not the most satiating food. I bet anyone here would say they could eat bacon until they get sick and not feel satisfied.

65435c9df81895b80a7082c1e74d7903

on December 01, 2011
at 06:56 PM

275 calories is what the the box where the bacon came from stated the bacon had.

65435c9df81895b80a7082c1e74d7903

on December 01, 2011
at 06:37 PM

I've edited the OP. I'm still not following paleo. I'm just trying to replace bread for eggs for breakfast to see how it goes. For the rest of the day I'm following a "standard" diet.

0511b69b133556de6e7ef12d4ae262bc

(399)

on December 01, 2011
at 06:33 PM

how long have you been paleo?

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12 Answers

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421492f8989c426af583520a3d5fd136

on December 01, 2011
at 09:07 PM

I had this exact problem a couple of months back.

The solution? Steak!! Lately, I've been eating approx 8oz of steak every morning, with 2 slices of bacon and a tbsp or so of coconut oil..... Keeps me full for at least 3/4 hours, nicely satiated and also curbs cravings for snacks during the day!

Different strokes for different folks..... But maybe give steak, bacon and some healthy oil a try and see how you feel. And I would also seriously consider completely cutting bread and any other grains that you may be eating - I bet you will be amazed at how well you will feel!

183f5c49a7a9548b6f5238d1f33cb35e

(1716)

on December 01, 2011
at 10:28 PM

Can't beat a good steak for breakfast :) With grilled tomatoes and bacon

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on December 01, 2011
at 06:48 PM

I have to say that despite 7 months of ancestral eating a breakfast with eggs as a major player leaves me hungry for some reason. I can have eggs as long as I have a nice big chunk of fatty beef with it. Eggs and a few strips of bacon just don't do it. I've tried a number of times and always wound up cooking meat an hour later.

EDIT: To answer your final question, you won't hit true withdrawal of your grain addiction until you go without for a few days; you'll be in daily dosage mode. After a few days without grain, your body will resist for up to several more days so your cravings could get worse or you could feel crummy. For now, eating a paleo breakfast will leave you craving your usual bread, particularly if you had some yesterday after breakfast.

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Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

(5332)

on December 01, 2011
at 06:47 PM

Feeling full isn't all it's cracked up to be, and there's a fair chance you've never really experienced real satiation. If it's affecting your energy levels or distracting you to not have a stuffed, bloated stomach then try throwing some veg in. It's still going to take a while to adjust though, particularly if you're eating bread the rest of the day.

Ded84388fef90e4209cf9520d1456a95

(530)

on December 02, 2011
at 02:35 PM

The "full" I feel after eating a paleo breakfast is different from the "full" I feel after eating a stack of pancakes. With the latter, it's an almost debilitating heaviness, an "I'm damn sure I just ate something because I feel like I have an anchor in my gut" feeling. It takes a while to get used to not feeling that way after eating!

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66974b2cb291799dcd661b7dec99a9e2

(11121)

on December 02, 2011
at 05:47 AM

There is a difference between feeling 'full' & being satiated (no longer hungry). A lot of people cannot tell the difference. Fat & protein take longer to digest then carbs which hit the blood stream quicker and give a false sense of feeling full. I no longer eat until my stomach expands and I feel 'full up' I eat until my hunger is gone and then I usually do not need to eat again for many hours sometimes up to 24-36 hours.

65435c9df81895b80a7082c1e74d7903

on December 02, 2011
at 11:46 AM

I get the difference between both. Trouble is, I generally "know" I am hungry when I start getting headache (it starts slowly and grows harder the more hungry I am). Although I'm OK with the fact that I'm not full(i.e. bloated), I tend to start getting that mild headache in like an hour or two after I've ate my breakfast.

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F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on December 01, 2011
at 11:01 PM

If bacon has sugar added to it, it spurs food cravings in me. I'm very sensitive to sugar in the mornings. And nitrates too, frankly. You might try eating some nitrate-free sugar-free real sausage instead of the bacon and see if it makes a difference.

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B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on December 01, 2011
at 10:54 PM

how do you prepare them? thought i'd ask just in case you put the bacon on a paper towel and fry the eggs with PAM :)

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D117467bf8e8472464ece2b81509606c

(2873)

on December 01, 2011
at 08:02 PM

Eggs needs a big hunk o' meat to be really satisfying, in my opinion. Nothing beats the egg+meat+veggie combo for hunger.

D117467bf8e8472464ece2b81509606c

(2873)

on December 02, 2011
at 03:07 PM

I eat a LOT of grass fed ground beef and mix it in with 4 or 5 eggs and some coconut milk. For the veggies, it's usually frozen broccoli or spinach with some olive oil.

D117467bf8e8472464ece2b81509606c

(2873)

on December 01, 2011
at 11:39 PM

How do I mix eggs?

65435c9df81895b80a7082c1e74d7903

on December 02, 2011
at 11:44 AM

I meant, how are you mixing meat and eggs for breakfast?

65435c9df81895b80a7082c1e74d7903

on December 01, 2011
at 10:29 PM

How do you mix and eggs for breakfast?

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1ec4e7ca085b7f8d5821529653e1e35a

(5506)

on December 01, 2011
at 06:53 PM

First of all, you must have some huge eggs. The "large eggs" that I get are generally 70 cals apiece. I'm not sure how much bacon 130g is, but 2 large strips of the bacon I get is only 90 cals. Lets assume you're eating 4 strips of bacon... Total is 70*4+90*2 or 460 cals. Maybe that's less than you're used to.

In addition, though many people say fat is super satiating, I don't feel sated unless I get a decent chunk of protein. Both eggs and bacon are more fats per calorie than protein. I would add some lean protein to the whole mix.

EDIT: I plugged 130g of bacon into fitday.com and it came to about 700 cals. That's something like 16 pieces of bacon. Are you eating that much bacon?! Holy Cats!

1ec4e7ca085b7f8d5821529653e1e35a

(5506)

on December 01, 2011
at 06:59 PM

how much bacon are you eating exactly... Bacon is not the most satiating food. I bet anyone here would say they could eat bacon until they get sick and not feel satisfied.

65435c9df81895b80a7082c1e74d7903

on December 01, 2011
at 06:56 PM

275 calories is what the the box where the bacon came from stated the bacon had.

65435c9df81895b80a7082c1e74d7903

on December 01, 2011
at 07:48 PM

The package stated 130g of bacon, 275kcal per 100g (so actually, it would be something like 275+82 cals. That's all I know.

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13a44ea00b0c9af0b6d0f3d5f5c2cfca

(7223)

on December 02, 2011
at 12:22 AM

It could just be that those foods are not particularly filling to you. I usually find eggs to be relatively filling, but bacon is not filling to me at all. I would experiment with something else. I personally eat offal cooked in butter most mornings. I find it to be very filling--but everyone is different.

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B33f7c04c09d8bbbf181dd8aca04f373

on December 02, 2011
at 04:49 PM

My breakfast this week - very satisfying and filling - has been 2-3 egg omelet, cooked in coconut oil with one whole avocado (usually turned into guacamole with some lime juice, a little garlic powder and a small sprinkle of sea salt) on the side. That left me full and satisfied enough to forgo lunch one day, although I did eat dinner pretty early :)

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A83897633eef0383e4ea2add2367314f

(240)

on December 03, 2011
at 03:29 PM

What about veggies?!

I don't need breakfast but only because I eat plenty of protein and fat at 12pm, 5pm and half of what I would eat at a main meal before bed. Eating and then going to sleep feels natural to me.

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518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on December 02, 2011
at 01:50 PM

I have a hard time eating such "volume" of meat and veggies alongside my eggs to feel full in the morning, probably has to do with eating breakfast at 6:15am, haha. My solution is to have a nutrition shake with 2 eggs. I use about 1/2 a can or equivalent of dehydrated coconut milk with 1 c of spinach, kale, and/or shard, almond butter, cinnamon, pureed squash, and blueberries/strawberries/blackberries.Thin it out with a bit of water to make it easier to drink, and I usually have to bring the shake to school with me because I can't finish it all in one sitting! So filling, don't eat a single thing until about four hours later.

B33f7c04c09d8bbbf181dd8aca04f373

(554)

on December 02, 2011
at 04:47 PM

I always love the idea of a very nutritive shake, but I find myself so "hungry" and wanting something to chew that I eat more when I do a shake alone for breakfast.

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