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New theory on Why Does Eating Breakfast make You Hungry?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 29, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Just seen Martin Berkham/ Leangains new post on "Why Does Breakfast Make Me Hungry"

Very interesting theory - I've always wondered why I get hungrier with breakfast than I do when I skip it.

So I wondered if you experience this too - and if you've noticed a change as you've improved your insulin sensitivity? Do you agree with his theory?

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on June 29, 2012
at 08:33 PM

Niiiiiiiiiiice!

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

(5231)

on June 29, 2012
at 06:07 PM

Funny that this question has been asked. This morning I had a three egg omelette with a side of walnuts and could barely finish eating my eggs.

27e79ef3308bb5f2d7bd04ee7eea7b79

(2038)

on June 29, 2012
at 05:56 PM

Wow. Wonder how that's supposed to add to the article.

E1e798ccd4eed67665652941b9ef7796

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on June 29, 2012
at 04:59 PM

For me it's not as simple as high/low protein. I have two go-to breakfasts, both of which keep me full for 5-7 hours: 1) ground turkey, veggie and egg scramble 2) half a sweet potato, chorizo, tomato, fried eggs I know that (1) is high protein, low carb and mod fat. I'd guess that (2) is high fat, mod carb and mod protein

E1e798ccd4eed67665652941b9ef7796

(483)

on June 29, 2012
at 04:57 PM

For me, protein is key and fat/ carb has less impact on hunger. E.g. my 'go to' breakfasts are 1) ground turkey, vegetable and egg scramble (high protein, mod fat, low carb) and 2) half a sweet potato, chorizo, tomato, egg (high fat, highish carb, mod protein). Both keep me full for 5-7 hours.

7b9b5de13a30c823dae64a971cb14add

(540)

on June 29, 2012
at 04:26 PM

yeah, i seem to do best with a whole avocado for breakfast, sometimes with a bit (like 1/4 to 1/3 of a cup) of full fat coconut milk.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on June 29, 2012
at 04:06 PM

Apparently so. I'm not at all surprised.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:54 PM

I'd like to keep track of male/female reactions to eating breakfast or not. Since there seems to be difference in how we handle IF (not so good for most women) I wonder if more women wind up happier on a big high protein, high fat breakfast?

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:52 PM

.....avocado...

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:51 PM

This. If my breakfast is eggs, meat and greens with cooking fat or an avodado, I'm set until well after noon. Add any dairy or fruit or starch and I turn into a ravenous beast before lunch.

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on June 29, 2012
at 07:15 AM

It's good to see him back - hope to see more regular posts!

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03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

on June 29, 2012
at 01:56 AM

Eating. High fat, high protein low carb breakfast makes me very full for hours.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:51 PM

This. If my breakfast is eggs, meat and greens with cooking fat or an avodado, I'm set until well after noon. Add any dairy or fruit or starch and I turn into a ravenous beast before lunch.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:54 PM

I'd like to keep track of male/female reactions to eating breakfast or not. Since there seems to be difference in how we handle IF (not so good for most women) I wonder if more women wind up happier on a big high protein, high fat breakfast?

E1e798ccd4eed67665652941b9ef7796

(483)

on June 29, 2012
at 04:59 PM

For me it's not as simple as high/low protein. I have two go-to breakfasts, both of which keep me full for 5-7 hours: 1) ground turkey, veggie and egg scramble 2) half a sweet potato, chorizo, tomato, fried eggs I know that (1) is high protein, low carb and mod fat. I'd guess that (2) is high fat, mod carb and mod protein

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

(5231)

on June 29, 2012
at 06:07 PM

Funny that this question has been asked. This morning I had a three egg omelette with a side of walnuts and could barely finish eating my eggs.

E1e798ccd4eed67665652941b9ef7796

(483)

on June 29, 2012
at 04:57 PM

For me, protein is key and fat/ carb has less impact on hunger. E.g. my 'go to' breakfasts are 1) ground turkey, vegetable and egg scramble (high protein, mod fat, low carb) and 2) half a sweet potato, chorizo, tomato, egg (high fat, highish carb, mod protein). Both keep me full for 5-7 hours.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:52 PM

.....avocado...

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0783706d5f1269f0fe74b3d9269aa2e6

(38)

on June 29, 2012
at 02:03 AM

Is he really illustrating with a (picture of a) cunnilingus ? :D

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on June 29, 2012
at 04:06 PM

Apparently so. I'm not at all surprised.

27e79ef3308bb5f2d7bd04ee7eea7b79

(2038)

on June 29, 2012
at 05:56 PM

Wow. Wonder how that's supposed to add to the article.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on June 29, 2012
at 08:33 PM

Niiiiiiiiiiice!

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1407bd6152d9fdbc239250385159fea1

on June 29, 2012
at 02:03 AM

I like the theory. Rebound insulin response = low blood sugar = early hunger. Berkhan is back!!!

F4d04667059bc682540fdfd8b40f13a7

on June 29, 2012
at 07:15 AM

It's good to see him back - hope to see more regular posts!

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C6e32ff9978fe287aa8c1c6be52d9524

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on June 29, 2012
at 02:55 PM

As stated above, I pretty much carb "backload" and it keeps me going all day long. I always feel awesome, energetic, and ready to go. I only consume protein+fat throughout the day (Breakfast and lunch. Maybe a small afternoon snack) and then switch to protein+carbs from 5:00-8:00 PM.

I've tested with trial and error and it's definitely what I run best on. If I even use a teaspoon of raw honey or molasses in my breakfast shake, I feel hungry a couple hours later.

If I load up on protein+coconut for breakfast, I'll stay full for 5-6 hours.

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7bcdcce584eb132e4c06b8ad2b1d22cc

on June 29, 2012
at 01:09 AM

When I started in February, I ate 3 squares and an evening snack about 9 pm. Abiut 6 weeks ago, I was doing some n=1 without knowing what it was called. I experimented with IF and found that I felt great only eating for 6 hours from 2-8 pm. Breakfast makes me feel logy. The article sounds good, but I am doing what I do because I thrive. What works for me is what I'm after. I like to find out what has worked for others so I can try new tweaks, but ultimately I don't really care what someone else does - although I hope whatever they're doing is healthy for them.

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303fb58a6ff31e518510ded43870b056

on November 11, 2012
at 05:58 PM

All I know is whenever I eat breakfast - no matter what it is - I am starving all day long. If I don't eat breakfast I sometimes don't eat until 1 pm. I know it's not healthy but I cannot stand being hungry all day. Even if my breakfast is only fat and protein, the same thing occurs. Which is how I ended up on this site.

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F9638b939a6f85d67f60065677193cad

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on June 29, 2012
at 05:45 PM

I sometimes have post-breakfast hunger even on a high protein/fat breakfast but usually I don't feel hungry until sometime between noon and 2pm, or if it comes earlier it's mild enough to be ignored easily. If I wake up unable to eat any breakfast, I usually get very hungry by 11am.

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F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

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on June 29, 2012
at 03:52 PM

Back in the day when I was convinced that a bagel or cereal or pancakes were an acceptable breakfast, I would basically pass out by midmoring. Even if I had something that was half protein and half carbs, I'd be ravenous by 10 or 11 AM. I actually asked my doctor about it once and she said it was a good thing because it meant my metabolism was "woken up" (oh, my useless doctors, I could go on for days) So I stopped eating breakfast.

When I don't eat breakfast, I generally do not get classicly hungry. If I eat lunch or something even though I don't really want it, I'm fine. But if I go too long without eating, I will start to get that "I really should eat" feeling, and then I find myself eating a meal and feel gross. For some reason my GI system does not like IF.

OTOH, if I eat a lot of fat and protein in the morning, I feel great and don't get hungry until mid/late afternoon. So now I pile on the protein and fat for breakfast and most days I don't eat again until dinner, or just eat a snack like a can of sardines mid-afternoon.

So I guess I disagree with his statement that "post-breakfast hunger is independent of food choice". Maybe it's different for men thant women, but it's certainly not true for me.

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2e1e0c0865edb9cfb9f8391f2877a965

on June 29, 2012
at 02:46 PM

I don't know either. But I've found if I eat anything but just fat for breakfast, I eat a lot more during the rest of the day. Even when I just eat eggs my appetite increases a lot.

7b9b5de13a30c823dae64a971cb14add

(540)

on June 29, 2012
at 04:26 PM

yeah, i seem to do best with a whole avocado for breakfast, sometimes with a bit (like 1/4 to 1/3 of a cup) of full fat coconut milk.

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5495f20862fee8ca6a3d6cf6ece99356

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on June 29, 2012
at 01:02 AM

I have no verifiable idea, but if I were to speculate it would be because after "breaking your fast" your stomach is stretched with the food and once through the shoot, the enlarged stomach sends signals to refill. If the fast were not broken from the night before, I would wager the stomach is still the size of your fist, and therefore is not "recognizing its emptiness" as much. This is just a guess, I really have no education on the matter.

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