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Ideas? Breakfast, ugh. Mercury detox...

Commented on December 23, 2013
Created December 17, 2013 at 1:47 PM

I don't know if my lack of morning appetite is due to the detox or not, but I have no desire to make eggs or even a slice of uncured ham. My morning coffee makes me feel tired these days. I know I'm not supposed to fast during a mercury detox, but dang. I don't feel like eating.

The only thing that sounds good, REALLY good, is Vietnamese soup (pho), but I can't get it in the morning.

Maybe a pickle?

Any ideas?

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on December 23, 2013
at 12:06 AM

I seldom feel hungry once I've got a cup of coffee in me, but usually am starving within a couple of hours after getting to work. I munch some mixed nuts to hold me until lunch or scoop into a nice ripe avocado from my lunch bag.

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on December 22, 2013
at 07:36 PM

I might take this condescendingly if I could possibly comprehend what you were writing. Nothing you posted shows a statistically significant increase in effectiveness when cilantro is involved. Everything you posts shows that cilantro has no negatives -- but also no positives. So now your argument is that other science papers have been wrong so maybe these are too? Damn.

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on December 21, 2013
at 02:27 PM

Yes, reasons… I don't know why you'd need reason why mercury poisoning and hypochondriac mercury toxicity are very different situations. Same goes for chelation therapy and herbal supplements.

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on December 20, 2013
at 08:10 PM

(BTW, I would click on your post for an "accept answer" but it's not in the place that allows it--thanks for the answers!)

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on December 20, 2013
at 05:32 PM

I suppose it is noble. One source essentially says that the medicine is effective, and is as effective (albeit not more effective) when cilantro is used. The other says that there is no evidence that cilantro provides a benefit. Two sources, no benefit. When will you be presenting something on the other side of the argument?

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on December 20, 2013
at 04:33 PM

::because reasons::

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 20, 2013
at 04:26 PM

Legit mercury poisoning is a thing, but self-diagnosed mercury poisoning is not. Legit chelation therapy for mercury toxicity is a thing, overpriced herbal bullshit is not.

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on December 20, 2013
at 04:01 PM

Okay, Matt11, I'll bite. As a chemist, do you feel mercury is not an issue? I'm not being snarky, I really want to know. I've read a lot surrounding the topic, but you have a perspective I would value.

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on December 20, 2013
at 01:56 PM

How noble to be balanced! But if the studies are on both sides of an argument, perhaps not even suggesting it in the first place is a better position to take. If the OP needs chelation therapy, they should look into legit chelation therapy as prescribed and supervised by a doctor. Overpriced natural BS need not apply.

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on December 19, 2013
at 01:38 PM

You'd need to show some better studies than those to crow about cilantro as a possible functional food.

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on December 19, 2013
at 01:38 PM

I would advise you to read your sources before you present them:

"In a recent trial in 3- to 7-year old children exposed to lead, a cilantro extract was as effective as placebo in increasing renal excretion"; "Cilantro... remains popular despite limited evidence"

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on December 19, 2013
at 01:34 PM

True, but I eat it because it's tasty (I know others who are not blessed with the ability to enjoy it may disagree!)

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on December 19, 2013
at 10:00 AM

It should be easy to find , but beware many Asian shops sell cinnamon leaf as bay leaf , because they use it for similar purposes,It is not cinnamon leaf that is required here

Common name Bay tree, sweet bay, bay laurel

also pubmed article

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2613499/

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on December 19, 2013
at 01:15 AM

thanks, chessguy! I am curious if Laurus nobilis will be easy or difficult to find. I also am taking iodine, good call. I do love the taste of cilantro as well, ironically an ingredient in pho.

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on December 19, 2013
at 01:13 AM

boiled eggs! I always forget about them, poor things. I do love them. And protein shakes...thanks!

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on December 19, 2013
at 01:07 AM

yeah, but it is so good I see no reason to discourage it's consumption.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 18, 2013
at 04:47 PM

Cilantro as a chelator is mostly hooey.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 17, 2013
at 10:23 PM

Please do.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on December 17, 2013
at 09:49 PM

For me -- I typically don't eat breakfast -- but when I am feeling low energy, I hard boil some eggs and store in the fridge. Easy, no fuss grab and go. Also, will do the Justin's Maple Almond Butter packs and/or protein shake.

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on December 17, 2013
at 06:55 PM

I could do that...I tend to think I have to do the entire thing (sprouts/basil/noodles) but I don't, do I? Thanks! I think some oxtails are in my future. :-)

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on December 17, 2013
at 06:51 PM

you could make pho broth, and then heat it up in the morning.....

A6b7afacdb512b861716bca9e9226ad3

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on December 17, 2013
at 06:50 PM

I'll just send the money to you next time, shall I? :-)

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 17, 2013
at 06:48 PM

That company is $80 richer…

A6b7afacdb512b861716bca9e9226ad3

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on December 17, 2013
at 06:29 PM

It's called NDF plus by Bioray. Pricey but seems good. There's a lot of smoke and fog about various treatments and lots of scare-mongering. This one sounded reasonable and I've been feeling clearer despite a flu-like reaction at one point when I overdid it. I will probably keep going for a few more months.

http://www.bioray.com/ndf-and-ndf-plus-adult-faq/

http://www.bioray.com/lab-tests#4

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on December 17, 2013
at 06:22 PM

:-) Sounds very hopeful. Thanks!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 17, 2013
at 06:16 PM

And yet, our bodies can detox mercury as well. Fish over the years and playing with mercury as a kid, that's likely entirely gone. A little bit of mercury from removing fillings? Pfft.

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on December 17, 2013
at 05:42 PM

not yet--it seemed a reasonable precaution, given the exposure.

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on December 17, 2013
at 05:24 PM

have you been tested or are you guessing?

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on December 20, 2013
at 07:11 PM

I can't help you with any chemistry but maybe try doing something active to stimulate your appetite. I know when I don't eat and go work out early in the morning, I get very hungry very soon after starting, even if I had no appetite before.

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Bdcb4ecc75f7b6867b785a7eadf25ece

on December 22, 2013
at 02:24 PM

hmmm google it , or perhaps try pubmed it , all answers will not be offered to you on a plate...unfortunately....

Even if they were they could change in time ....to perhaps the opposite.Then you would have to make your own decision ,, hmm now what do we do ....go figure...

we are here to assist one another , not rant and make our own decisions based on the information ,around us.

Many clinical studies show opposites, but which one is right ??

Is yes the correct answer or no....tough one..

One clinical study may be proven today and followed by billions then the decision may be reversed years later ring a bell Ancel Keys .

I do not mean to be condescending sincere apologies if it is taken that way...

hope this insight helps..

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on December 22, 2013
at 07:36 PM

I might take this condescendingly if I could possibly comprehend what you were writing. Nothing you posted shows a statistically significant increase in effectiveness when cilantro is involved. Everything you posts shows that cilantro has no negatives -- but also no positives. So now your argument is that other science papers have been wrong so maybe these are too? Damn.

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on December 20, 2013
at 08:20 AM

HI I clearly put both articles to show neutrality , so one is open to options, , idea is to remain objective , eyes open not closed ,then it is up to the individual to decide..

No pun intended..

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 20, 2013
at 01:56 PM

How noble to be balanced! But if the studies are on both sides of an argument, perhaps not even suggesting it in the first place is a better position to take. If the OP needs chelation therapy, they should look into legit chelation therapy as prescribed and supervised by a doctor. Overpriced natural BS need not apply.

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on December 19, 2013
at 09:51 AM

hmm there are many more scientific articles on chinese parsley aka cilantro aka corriander

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8914687

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3654245/

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on December 19, 2013
at 01:38 PM

I would advise you to read your sources before you present them:

"In a recent trial in 3- to 7-year old children exposed to lead, a cilantro extract was as effective as placebo in increasing renal excretion"; "Cilantro... remains popular despite limited evidence"

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 19, 2013
at 01:38 PM

You'd need to show some better studies than those to crow about cilantro as a possible functional food.

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Bdcb4ecc75f7b6867b785a7eadf25ece

on December 18, 2013
at 02:58 PM

HI add fresh Corriander to you meals, lugols iodine or iodrol , is good for this too in severe cases but coriander is great , a handful of fresh corriander chopped on each meal, also bay leaf this type only >>

Laurus nobilis

Bay leaf to go round and clean up and repair , you can soak the dry bay leaves in warm water, for say 25 mins when cool in a fridge covered , and drink a glass full of their of water say 3 times during the day,

make a fresh mix say every 3 days.

also ensure you drink circa 3 liters of water through out the day,

to keep the kidneys flushing,

note if you are diabetic Bay Leaf this will definitely lower your blood sugars.So monitor your bloods closely

A6b7afacdb512b861716bca9e9226ad3

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on December 19, 2013
at 01:15 AM

thanks, chessguy! I am curious if Laurus nobilis will be easy or difficult to find. I also am taking iodine, good call. I do love the taste of cilantro as well, ironically an ingredient in pho.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 18, 2013
at 04:47 PM

Cilantro as a chelator is mostly hooey.

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on December 17, 2013
at 06:21 PM

what are you taking?

A6b7afacdb512b861716bca9e9226ad3

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on December 17, 2013
at 06:29 PM

It's called NDF plus by Bioray. Pricey but seems good. There's a lot of smoke and fog about various treatments and lots of scare-mongering. This one sounded reasonable and I've been feeling clearer despite a flu-like reaction at one point when I overdid it. I will probably keep going for a few more months.

http://www.bioray.com/ndf-and-ndf-plus-adult-faq/

http://www.bioray.com/lab-tests#4

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on December 17, 2013
at 05:18 PM

Oh, the mercury is an issue because 1) I got several fillings replaced a few weeks ago 2) I played with mercury from broken thermometer as a child, and 3) I ate a decent amount of fish over the years.

I've been taking some stuff to chelate it.

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on December 17, 2013
at 05:24 PM

have you been tested or are you guessing?

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on December 17, 2013
at 04:36 PM

What the hell is a mercury detox? How do you know you have mercury levels high enough to warrant a "detox"?

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on December 17, 2013
at 04:21 PM

Mercury detox? What?

A6b7afacdb512b861716bca9e9226ad3

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on December 20, 2013
at 04:01 PM

Okay, Matt11, I'll bite. As a chemist, do you feel mercury is not an issue? I'm not being snarky, I really want to know. I've read a lot surrounding the topic, but you have a perspective I would value.

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on December 17, 2013
at 02:03 PM

I'm going to try making some jjook (Korean rice porridge) although it's a starch, because it's supposed to be good for digestion. Maybe some kimchi on the side.

Usually I'd be up for some steak, but I don't have any.

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