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Breakfast, is it needed or is it just a conditioned habit?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created June 15, 2011 at 3:55 PM

I usually do not eat anything as soon as I wake up (have been like this for years). I tend to actually feel hungry around 11am then I will eat. My 14 year old son has breakfast every morning but on the weekends he will naturally not eat when he wakes up and will eat around noon. I think breakfast is a conditioned response in our society. I believe one should not eat unless one is truly hungry. Granted given our hectic, modern lifestyles this can be problematic. I think one important aspect of paleo (I think of it more as just a Human diet) is listening to one's body (if one is not metabolically deranged) and eating when hungry not because society says it's time to eat. Eating when one is not hungry can definitely mess with our bodies natural feedback mechanisms.

Of course a lot of people never experience true 'hunger' because if we even think we may be hungry we have easy access to a multitude of foods 24/7.

B3ea6447483d614acfc7cab288c6483e

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on June 27, 2011
at 06:58 PM

Wow, this was taken totally out of context. I apologize if anyone is offended.

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on June 16, 2011
at 05:47 PM

I dunno, I eat a fatty steak and tuber right before bed and I wake up hungry. I think it has more to do with total activity level.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on June 16, 2011
at 04:58 PM

Yeah no reason to be mean here.

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on June 16, 2011
at 04:46 PM

This is me too! And if I don't have breakfast early - like today - I get to feeling sick by the time I do eat. I need breakfast!

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on June 16, 2011
at 12:37 PM

well-spotted. a hard roman catholic upbringing in northern NJ's lingering effects on the soul creep out;)

34a367e60db77270bd7096dc04270fdc

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on June 15, 2011
at 06:41 PM

Maybe if you looked at it a little differently. As an OBESE person (not sure why you needed to capitalize it), it's not so much about eating for pleasure as it is eating for comfort. It's more of a disorder, not that much different from being a drunk or a drug addict. I know it's our responsibility to fix issues like this but unlike drugs and alcohol where you can totally cut them out of your life - everyone has to eat. I've spent the better part of 30 years trying to fix my issues, believe me it's not as simplistic as your comment. I'm less OBESE now but still a constant challenge.

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on June 15, 2011
at 06:16 PM

If you have cortisol issues, breakfast is important to remove low blood glucose levels as a stressor.

Ce57a94251224f9696faf47f9ca630a0

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on June 15, 2011
at 06:05 PM

Hahahahahaaaaaa. Death-In-A-Box. Good stuff.

B3ea6447483d614acfc7cab288c6483e

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on June 15, 2011
at 06:05 PM

Hahahahaha, love it

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

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on June 15, 2011
at 06:05 PM

"sinner"? Freudian slip?

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on June 15, 2011
at 05:42 PM

For 99% of the US I'd totally agree.

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on June 15, 2011
at 05:38 PM

Gnolls put out basically exactly what you're talking about this morning.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 15, 2011
at 05:21 PM

Breakfast is a marketing gimmick started by Kelloggs to sell their pre-packaged, Death-In-A-Box.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on June 15, 2011
at 05:42 PM

For 99% of the US I'd totally agree.

Ce57a94251224f9696faf47f9ca630a0

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on June 15, 2011
at 06:05 PM

Hahahahahaaaaaa. Death-In-A-Box. Good stuff.

B3ea6447483d614acfc7cab288c6483e

(48)

on June 15, 2011
at 06:05 PM

Hahahahaha, love it

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on June 16, 2011
at 04:24 PM

I'm never hungry in the morning. I'm most productive from 7-11 AM. If I eat breakfast, even a smaller paleo breakfast, I feel distracted and can't focus as well.

But I know many people who can't function without AM food.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 15, 2011
at 04:08 PM

I just posted about this actually. Check out the article at Gnolls.org. It gives a great historical lens about why we eat breakfast.

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667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on June 15, 2011
at 05:42 PM

Breakfast makes sense in light of our societal patterns. You gotta get up and be at work until 12/1 so it's like may as well have some food before you go in so you don't get hungry. That's about it I think.

Also, what's always ignored is the timing of dinner. If you eat sinner right before bed, which is common in Europe and Japan, then by breakfast time you may still be fine from that last fueling. Happens to be what we do.

So yes I would say it's simply a pattern that we've developed because of society's general schedule. Nothing intrinsic about it.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on June 16, 2011
at 12:37 PM

well-spotted. a hard roman catholic upbringing in northern NJ's lingering effects on the soul creep out;)

07ca188c8dac3a17f629dd87198d2098

(7970)

on June 15, 2011
at 06:05 PM

"sinner"? Freudian slip?

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on June 16, 2011
at 05:47 PM

I dunno, I eat a fatty steak and tuber right before bed and I wake up hungry. I think it has more to do with total activity level.

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on June 15, 2011
at 04:08 PM

Hunger is often what gets me out of bed in the morning. I wake up hungry. I could certainly wait until 11am to eat, or wait until the next day for that matter if really necessary. But I am hungry upon rising and ready for a full meal. I can usually skip lunch or have a light lunch if I have a decent breakfast.

4e184df9c1ed38f61febc5d6cf031921

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on June 16, 2011
at 04:46 PM

This is me too! And if I don't have breakfast early - like today - I get to feeling sick by the time I do eat. I need breakfast!

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on June 16, 2011
at 08:04 PM

I wish I could not eat breakfast in the morning. I find if I don't have SOMETHING, then I will most likely slip up or eat too much the rest of the day. Even if I'm not super-hungry, I find my body needs to have just a little something to stabilize me and keep me from going on a carb binge later on. It's just easier and less stressful, for me, anyway, to actually eat something in the morning. I most likely have that cortisol issue mentioned earlier.

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on June 16, 2011
at 05:16 PM

I've been reading recently about an austrian study on obese policemen. They were put on a calorie restricted diet (1700cal). Group A was told to eat normally, consuming carbs throughout the day and staying away from carbs later in the day. Group B was told to reduce carbs throughout the day and consume the majority of their carbs at dinner. The group consuming the larger dinner with more carbs experienced significant improvements in body composition as well as cholesterol levels. Something about how our leptin sensitivity and satiety are highest at night. Since trying this type of regimen I've noticed extreme loss of appetite throughout the day. Very manageable and by the time dinner rolls around I'm quite hungry. If you think about it, the few grams of BF we could possibly store at night will then be burned off once we run out of dietary fat/caloroies. This concept is interesting and when you think about our ancestors, do you think they feasted at night after making the big kill? I bet indeed they did. Hey when I eat dinner at 8pm and won't have breakfast until 8am, I think I'll need some of my daily 2000 calories for those 12 hours. Definitely something worth trying.

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Ce57a94251224f9696faf47f9ca630a0

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on June 15, 2011
at 06:08 PM

In general, I have never been hungry in the morning. Luckily, I had a mother who didn't force food down my throat, so I have almost always skipped breakfast. On my days off it is not unusual for me to not eat anything till 5 or 6pm. Of course, I am a solid night owl who sleeps until 11am on my days off, so that may be part of the late launch thing going on there.

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B3ea6447483d614acfc7cab288c6483e

on June 15, 2011
at 06:08 PM

If the OBESE of America could look at food as fuel/energy instead of pleasure and masking hidden issues, our health would be in such a better place. I have noticed since beginning a fasting protocol that I could go days without food. I am constantly telling myself to only eat when my body tells me and towards the end of the day I have to remind myself to eat.

34a367e60db77270bd7096dc04270fdc

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on June 15, 2011
at 06:41 PM

Maybe if you looked at it a little differently. As an OBESE person (not sure why you needed to capitalize it), it's not so much about eating for pleasure as it is eating for comfort. It's more of a disorder, not that much different from being a drunk or a drug addict. I know it's our responsibility to fix issues like this but unlike drugs and alcohol where you can totally cut them out of your life - everyone has to eat. I've spent the better part of 30 years trying to fix my issues, believe me it's not as simplistic as your comment. I'm less OBESE now but still a constant challenge.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on June 16, 2011
at 04:58 PM

Yeah no reason to be mean here.

B3ea6447483d614acfc7cab288c6483e

(48)

on June 27, 2011
at 06:58 PM

Wow, this was taken totally out of context. I apologize if anyone is offended.

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on June 15, 2011
at 05:12 PM

I used to be ravenous each morning, I'd eat because it was "so important" to start the day! Now, like you I get somewhat hungry at about 11 - and make my "main" meal - generally eating at about 12 -- I follow the lead of my hunger - right or wrong! Often I'll take my "power walk" - instead of b-fast - work up an appetite, still don't usually eat before 11 - I eat twice a day as a rule - w a snack of avocado or tsp of almond butter for suppression of hunger - if any - or just as an exciting snack! Actually a friend stayed over for the night - and ordered b-fast in! I apologized for not being considerate - I honestly didn't think about food until 11 - and even mentioned how I never think about food until then any more (of course she ordered french toast!) - everyone notices the miraculous change in me, but are TOTALLY unwilling to follow suit once they learn what I abstain from! I tell them it isn't difficult at all! No one believes me - my daughter (who lives with me) Won't think of the diet - and her mother died of breast cancer - my daughter though not obese, could lose 25+ - to get "ideal" - I worry about her genetic history!!

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on June 15, 2011
at 04:11 PM

when i was still eating grains, i woke up hungry. i had the same appetite pattern as you describe shortly after giving up my GO-Lean and blueberries.

about a week ago i started eating breakfast again; 50 grams of protein, and the first 4 days or so were a struggle. i assumed it was down to the sheer quantity of food, but i noticed in the last few days that i am able to eat without any trouble what so ever, so you may be right about conditioning. at least in my case.

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