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Have to eat two slices of bread on week days for one month- how to reduce the harm?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created April 02, 2013 at 4:39 PM

I`m going to work at a place for one month. Its really important to make a good impression on this workplace. For lunch they serve bread. I want to eat this because of the social part, I know many of you want to say: "Bring your own lunch". But Im going to eat the same as the others of social reasons. So how can I reduce the harm? any tips?

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on April 03, 2013
at 02:54 AM

According to several billion people who are not Robb Wolf, who the f cares? Protein is protein; it passes. It doesn't kill, nor is it very likely that anyone's life is shortened one second by eating gluten. The carbs in bread are a different story...

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on April 03, 2013
at 02:48 AM

While I agree generally, it's because I believe paleos were omnivores. We eat meat, but not in reaction to SAD or veganism. There are are better and worse things to eat, but I believe that like our ancestors we eat anything we can digest. Just because we can.

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on April 03, 2013
at 02:42 AM

The problem with claiming an allergy is that people will feel sorry for you.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on April 02, 2013
at 11:40 PM

Lying is not paleo.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on April 02, 2013
at 11:07 PM

The effects of gluten in sensitive individuals might last 2 weeks, but I cannot see how gluten itself sticks around that long.

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on April 02, 2013
at 10:35 PM

Don't make a big deal out of it. Say "Oh, I don't like bread that much" and pile your plate with other foods. If all they really serve is bread, you can still socialize with your colleagues without having to eat bread. I used to rationalize my choices of eating pastries or bread, then realized that no one really cares and no one will push you unless you bring attention to it.

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on April 02, 2013
at 10:27 PM

+1. It's sad that claiming an allergy or sickness is a viable answer while so many are uncomfortable staking a claim on their health.

0382fa263de4c83328dc34a56e25437f

(4238)

on April 02, 2013
at 10:25 PM

I dislike playing the allergy card if I don't actually have allergies, it's problematic in several ways. If you're after ease and convenience, though, up to you.

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(1655)

on April 02, 2013
at 08:22 PM

@CD It's the circle of life! :-D

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on April 02, 2013
at 07:39 PM

There seem to be individual differences in whether people are "moderators" or "abstainers." For some it's easier to make an all-or-nothing commitment and never have to worry about individual decisions. Other people can make case-by-case decisions with less concern about a slippery slope.

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(1601)

on April 02, 2013
at 07:20 PM

yeah I agree. changed it, thanks for the suggestion CD. bread is bread, and to be honest, when I eat high quality anything (grains or otherwise), it's a pleasure.

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on April 02, 2013
at 06:52 PM

"Allergies" are a great shorthand. People know what they mean and don't take it personally. Though this may be less true in some workplaces or some cultures.

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on April 02, 2013
at 06:26 PM

I'm pretty sure nobody will be offended if you say "I don't eat bread for health reasons, but I will gladly partake in the other foods."

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on April 02, 2013
at 06:26 PM

I hate the term "cheat". If I "cheat" on a test it is to give me a competitive advantage. If I "cheat" on my diet it gives me a competitive dis-advantage...

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on April 02, 2013
at 06:24 PM

@greymouser, I thought they were made from soylent green? Or is soylent green made from prisoners? I'm so confused

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on April 02, 2013
at 05:56 PM

I think prison food has to by law hit all of the RDAs, which is better than a lot of the "paleo" diets you see around here.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on April 02, 2013
at 05:51 PM

The bread, burgers, and veggies served in some prisons are all made from soy anyways. ;-)

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(10611)

on April 02, 2013
at 04:53 PM

Don't look grumpy or stressed about it. If you have it on a plate, toss the top and eat what's in the middle with a fork. They'll think you're on a diet if you don't make a big deal out of it.

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3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on April 02, 2013
at 04:46 PM

I would not eat it. I'm sure they don't serve just bread. Eat the rest. Explain that you don't eat bread, if you have to. According to Robb Wolf, gluten stays in the gut for 2 weeks. No way to reduce harm, unless maybe helped with some digestive enzymes, but don't expect miracles.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on April 02, 2013
at 11:07 PM

The effects of gluten in sensitive individuals might last 2 weeks, but I cannot see how gluten itself sticks around that long.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on April 03, 2013
at 02:54 AM

According to several billion people who are not Robb Wolf, who the f cares? Protein is protein; it passes. It doesn't kill, nor is it very likely that anyone's life is shortened one second by eating gluten. The carbs in bread are a different story...

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800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

on April 02, 2013
at 04:43 PM

If you're not gluten-intolerant, there's not much harm, if any. Eat, smile, be happy.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on April 02, 2013
at 04:53 PM

Don't look grumpy or stressed about it. If you have it on a plate, toss the top and eat what's in the middle with a fork. They'll think you're on a diet if you don't make a big deal out of it.

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91597fb7f6bb422bff222c03f0885d5b

on April 02, 2013
at 06:00 PM

How do you reduce the harm? You don't eat it. I started typing with the intention to tell you to lie but it just didn't feel right. We shouldn't be embarrassed or ashamed by choices we make for our health. Tell them you don't eat bread/gluten because you feel __ when you don't eat it (feel: better, more energized, that you sleep better, whatever your reason is.) Don't be preachy, don't go into great detail. If making a good impression is as important as you say and anyone asks further questions tell them you'd be willing to talk about it later. That way you don't alienate yourself or make anyone feel like you are judging them

I know this isn't the answer you we're looking for it for my two cents I think being honest is better than suffering to people please a group you will only work with for a month.

0382fa263de4c83328dc34a56e25437f

(4238)

on April 02, 2013
at 10:27 PM

+1. It's sad that claiming an allergy or sickness is a viable answer while so many are uncomfortable staking a claim on their health.

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705e66484ed64fe8e188123de398413e

on April 02, 2013
at 05:38 PM

Sometimes in life you have to make uncomfortable decisions.

Turning down a little bread is a good start. Many times I've looked strange in a business meeting by taking a fork to a sandwich and pulling out the meat and cheese. You could even pack a fork (disposable even) if they are not providing one.

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6dc767a3b94cb0133601caf6c39ea218

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on April 02, 2013
at 05:30 PM

if it's a new place for you, you probably don't know anyone too well, right? tell them you have specific allergies and can't have bread. i wouldn't think someone is "weird" because of that.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on April 03, 2013
at 02:42 AM

The problem with claiming an allergy is that people will feel sorry for you.

0382fa263de4c83328dc34a56e25437f

(4238)

on April 02, 2013
at 10:25 PM

I dislike playing the allergy card if I don't actually have allergies, it's problematic in several ways. If you're after ease and convenience, though, up to you.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on April 02, 2013
at 11:40 PM

Lying is not paleo.

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on April 02, 2013
at 06:52 PM

"Allergies" are a great shorthand. People know what they mean and don't take it personally. Though this may be less true in some workplaces or some cultures.

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6967518836bd7e2331601a71e937ae0d

(170)

on April 02, 2013
at 07:36 PM

Just don't eat it. It's only weird if you make it weird. A simple "No thanks" will do.

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3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on April 02, 2013
at 05:41 PM

Are you working at a prison where all they serve is bread and water?

I cannot imagine a place of work that would have that rule. Even if it's like everyone eats at the local deli, deli's almost all have some type of salad.

You have three options:

  1. Eat the bread and don't bitch about it.
  2. Tell them you have a gluten allergy, bring your own lunch, and sit with them at the table to keep the social interaction.
  3. Screw the social interaction, you are only working there for a month, don't try to be their friend, focus on doing a bang up job on your actual job.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on April 02, 2013
at 05:51 PM

The bread, burgers, and veggies served in some prisons are all made from soy anyways. ;-)

Medium avatar

(39821)

on April 02, 2013
at 05:56 PM

I think prison food has to by law hit all of the RDAs, which is better than a lot of the "paleo" diets you see around here.

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on April 02, 2013
at 08:22 PM

@CD It's the circle of life! :-D

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on April 02, 2013
at 06:24 PM

@greymouser, I thought they were made from soylent green? Or is soylent green made from prisoners? I'm so confused

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on April 02, 2013
at 11:26 PM

Equating bread with harm??? that doesn't make paleo seem all that reasonable. Unless you have a damn good reason not to consume, why avoid it so thoroughly? Bread is not going to harm you. Billions of folks eat wheat and have consumed wheat for 1000s of years. All that in the face of a diet principle dreamt up in the last 20 years.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on April 03, 2013
at 02:48 AM

While I agree generally, it's because I believe paleos were omnivores. We eat meat, but not in reaction to SAD or veganism. There are are better and worse things to eat, but I believe that like our ancestors we eat anything we can digest. Just because we can.

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Da9968e43890b1507ac968e7c93f96c0

on April 02, 2013
at 08:05 PM

I tell people all the time I do not eat A because of health reasons. I then pass the bread or whatever to the next person and the subject never comes up again.

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8d3cb0be5f31c75a05f853cb3b5c245a

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on April 02, 2013
at 06:18 PM

Grace (BGAnimalpharm.blogspot.com) wrote a post: how to cheat!

http://drbganimalpharm.blogspot.com/2010/11/human-zoo-and-how-to-cheat-nudeln-and.html from her: "Cheating

My sister 'M' introduced us to the below products. SHE IS A GENIUS and constantly scans the spectrum/ASD boards, forums and networks.

Products we like to cheat with wicked laugh!: [ found at amazon.com, local health food store, iherb.com] (1) Peptizyde = broad spectrum plus GLUTEN-enzymes and CASEIN-enzymes; available in chewables for children as well (2) Trienza = GLUTEN-enzymes and CASEIN-enzymes (3) Glutenease = GLUTEN-enzymes and CASEIN-enzymes (4) Digest Gold = broad spectrum digestive enzymes, POWERFUL strength (5) Now SUPER ENZYMES = broad spectrum digestive enzymes PLUS OX BILE for those without perfect gallbladders.

Shame? Hardly... we're passively paleo, neolithically sophisticated and advanced (because we have to be to SURVIVE)..."

1) Don't sweat it. I feel like you could make it worse by stressing about it too much - enjoy it (as long as you're not celiac) and do it for sufficient time until you can get out of it.

2) It might be interesting to use this time to do a personal experiment, and try to note if any factors (performance, sleep, skin issues, body temperature, thyroid, cholesterol, etc.) change during this time. or as well, to use this time period to really confirm your gluten sensitivity by getting a test to confirm it once and for all (although your mileage may vary due to the fact that people say you can't really trust antibody tests)

I've tried the digest gold - it was expensive, (ingredients: Amylase Thera-blend, ProteaseThera-blend, LipaseTherablend, Cellulase Thera-blend, Invertase, Lactase, Maltase, Glucoamylase Alpha, Galactosidase, Phytase/Pectinase, Xylanase, Hemicellulase Beta, Glucanase) and to be honest, not sure of the difference? I think I stress a lot in general about stuff, but I really think eating pancakes (inlaw tradition I couldn't get out of) seriously threw my stomach out of whack and I had to stop supplementing with iodine after that for a while because something in my throat swelled up and wheat can create thyroid antibodies.

This site says it's not sure the enzymes help:

http://www.celiac.com/articles/22726/1/Can-Enzyme-Supplements-Really-Break-Down-Gluten/Page1.html

(3) Obviously I don't know your specific health situation or why you went paleo/primal (are you sick? overweight? skin issue? hungry all the time? anemic? energy? etc.) but I can tell you that if you went paleo for any health issue, just know that you're setting yourself back a little bit and try to make sure other factors (sleep, Vitamin D - which you need more of since grains kind of take this out of circulation - see wholehealthsource for more on this, exercise, magnesium) are pretty decent to make up for your bread and plan the day to really reset.

(4) Also - this sounds really eating disorderly or something but maybe can you kind of push the bread around your plate, take as few bites as possible and try eat less during lunch? feel free to disregard this.

(5) I think that another good thing to do could be eating breakfast and then fasting - i.e. inducing autophagy and giving the body the chance to repair itself/repair the intestinal permeability by drinking more beef bone broth during the week?

You'd be surprised how little people notice when you eat less/nibble at things (unless you have some lady or dude with issues/bad manners who have the need to point out what you're doing in front of a huge group of people)

As paul jaminet says, the dose makes the poison. i always try to keep this in mind when something goes wrong like I had to go to a restaurant and find out my fish was lightly floured before they cooked it in butter or I feel like I can taste flour in my clam chowder, etc. or there's some way too sugary fruit or chocolate or whatever that i've been forced to try. I enjoy what i want and savor the bites i get and take small bites to figure out if something is worth splurging before I dig in.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on April 02, 2013
at 06:26 PM

I hate the term "cheat". If I "cheat" on a test it is to give me a competitive advantage. If I "cheat" on my diet it gives me a competitive dis-advantage...

8d3cb0be5f31c75a05f853cb3b5c245a

(1601)

on April 02, 2013
at 07:20 PM

yeah I agree. changed it, thanks for the suggestion CD. bread is bread, and to be honest, when I eat high quality anything (grains or otherwise), it's a pleasure.

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9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

on April 02, 2013
at 04:58 PM

I had a job recently where there were frequent office social events and somehow they all involved gluten and sugar -- muffins or bagels for breakfast, pizza for lunch, etc.

I went along with I for the first two times but after that stopped because I felt like crap. I can have gluten about once a month or two without any ill effects but more often than that and I pay for it for days. If I had it twice a week I would always be sick.

Every job setting has to accommodate all diets and cultures, for example there are probably vegetarians among your coworkers, and they aren't going to eat meat just because they are at work. It does not have to be a big deal and you should not have to defend yourself. If it gets to be an issue, mention it to your boss and he/she should arrange things so it works for you.

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Bfd70bb38267fcc2d762063d691fa226

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on April 02, 2013
at 11:11 PM

I usually say that I am intolerant to gluten. People understand that better than if you would say it is a dietary choice. People don't question intolerances or allergies much because some, like peanut allergies, are very serious.

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089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on April 02, 2013
at 09:58 PM

seems very weird that you'd want to eat bread- especially if it's just regular, crap store bread.

i mean, if it makes you feel fine, then eat it. there's such better, healthier alternatives though. NOBODY will care that you aren't eating the bread, fyi. people are too focused on themselves to care about such trivial things.

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on April 02, 2013
at 07:30 PM

A big problem is that there are ALWAYS situations where you will have to choose whether or not to follow your dietary norms. Usually for me this is at family gatherings. So, since there is always a party, always a birthday, always a holiday, always a graduation, etc. ad nauseum - it's better to stay the course for your health. Everyone else is gonna catch up to us anyway - someday.

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on April 02, 2013
at 07:39 PM

There seem to be individual differences in whether people are "moderators" or "abstainers." For some it's easier to make an all-or-nothing commitment and never have to worry about individual decisions. Other people can make case-by-case decisions with less concern about a slippery slope.

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5bd7f43c7da83282bcb78e3aa33832e0

on April 02, 2013
at 04:50 PM

Digestive enzymes, perhaps. It's just a month though. Eat properly for your other meals, and you'll be fine :)

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