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Which book would you lend your doctor?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM

I'm going to see my GP at noon today. She's cool, open minded, and has shown interest in paleo - she tells my story to some of her patients with autoimmune disease. I ran into her the other day and told her I was coming to see her this week. She said "You look great! Bring me a book". I've got a pretty extensive paleo library, so...

If you had the chance to inform your doctor about paleo and could lend her one book, what would it be? She's busy and somewhat skeptical, so it needs to have the biggest impact in the fewest number of pages (sorry GCBC).

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

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on August 10, 2011
at 11:07 PM

Not a prob, JCB: Dr. Brent Becklin at Morton Plant Mease Primary Care--mpmprimarycare.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/…

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

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at 11:05 PM

Not a prob, JCB. He's Dr. Brent Becklin at Morton Plant Mease Primary Care--http://www.mpmprimarycare.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/site.physicians/action/dtl/phys/99804203.cfm

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on August 10, 2011
at 09:24 PM

Hey Nemesis - off topic but I'd really like to know who your doctor is in this area. If you feel like sharing, I'm at myaltid at gmail.

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on August 10, 2011
at 09:18 PM

I don't think that would be a bad choice either..

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at 08:20 PM

Docs are human, too, aren't they? Robb's book is fun to read, and doesn't take too much time.

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at 08:08 PM

Im giving you my N-1. Robb's book has been a hit with docs. And docs are the pay public with regard to nutrition.....you cats here know more than they do.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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at 08:07 PM

Robb's book has gotten a lot of docs attn. Of course I have given out about 150 copies of it.

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on August 10, 2011
at 07:33 PM

low carb is one thing but comprehensive paleo is another. Going with just the low carb angle is, I think, short sighted.

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at 07:32 PM

Stephan Lindberg's Food and Western Disease would ROCK. But it's nearly $80. http://www.amazon.com/Food-Western-Disease-evolutionary-perspective/dp/1405197714

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at 07:30 PM

YES!!!! Totally forgot about this one.

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at 05:11 PM

His podcasts are the only thing of his that I've heard from him, so if he didn't write his book like that then yes I'd be hesitant to recommend it :(

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at 04:32 PM

I love Robb Wolf's podcasts. He definitely knows his stuff, and he comes across as being intelligent, well-informed, and objective — in his podcasts. But I was put off by the smarmy writing style in his book. I wouldn't recommend it to somebody who isn't already inclined to agree with it.

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at 04:24 PM

The first half of GCBC, the part that demolishes the lipid hypothesis, is outstanding. If I were interested in convincing my doc that saturated fat and cholesterol are non-evil, I'd give him GCBC and tell him to read just the first hundred pages. There's a big leap, however, between merely demolishing the lipid hypothesis, on the one hand, and establishing a sensible dietary strategy, on the other. If my goal were the latter, I'd go with Jaminet's Perfect Health Diet.

E639bc85fd42430285596434a6515ad5

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at 04:15 PM

That would be my clear choice as well. Deep Nutrition by Shanahan would be my second choice.

D5096ff5baffc0ba5d20b21346414a7a

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at 03:49 PM

If they really want to rethink the lipid hypothesis, GCBC does that. You could just start with his NYT article. Unless they are willing to get past the saturated fat scare and get off the Lipitor bandwagon, there is no hope.

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at 03:46 PM

I would think that Wolf's cutesy style would turn off doctors. The Quilt says some colleagues have responded favorably, but to me he really addresses his audience in an irritating way. I had to work hard to overlook it and read his message.

A45af235ed4dd0b4f548c59e91b75763

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on August 10, 2011
at 03:28 PM

Have any LC/Paleo books NOT been duds with docs??

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at 01:52 PM

I wouldn't recommend Robb's book because it's aimed toward the masses, not necessarily a doctor. Not to mention there are several grammatical/spelling errors that might disqualify his credentials to some.

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at 01:46 PM

I'd go with the latest - it's a simplified, annotated GCBC. Keep it simple for the overworked Docs who've probably been educated in the typical SAD manifesto. :)

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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at 01:10 PM

Both of Taubes books have been duds with docs I have noticed

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on August 10, 2011
at 01:10 PM

Jaminets book has not been a lighten rod for docs I have given too. Not sure it's the one to stimulate change. I think robs style is what hooks them honestly to explore more

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at 01:08 PM

Robbs book is what I use and I would also put a list of blogs to read inside it. That is what I do to docs

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at 12:30 PM

I would agree except Taubes does not address the industrial oil/seed oil issue and that is huge when it comes to autoimmune disease IMHO. Jaminet and Perfect Health is good for M.D.s because it gives extensive footnotes to studies and journals as does Taubes. I have referred my OBGYN to the calcium studies.

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at 12:28 PM

I was introduced to Paleo through continuing education courses, but I thought Wolf's would be a good one to lend....never read Perfect Health Diet, sounds interesting.

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at 12:25 PM

Awesome to hear about a doctor like that!

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at 12:23 PM

The reasons you list are the reasons I'd recommend Jaminet's book. It trumps Wolf's book in spades on reference, science, facts. And Wolf's book is still stuck on low fat.

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A45af235ed4dd0b4f548c59e91b75763

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on August 10, 2011
at 12:20 PM

I would give her Gary Taubes "Why we get fat and what to do about it". Taubes wrote the book specifically for such an occasion. It offers a great deal of science and data to support the arguments of the Paleo diet without any of the Paleo reenactment or non-scientific theory that might dilute the message. The book is an easy read and can be fully digested in a few sittings.

A45af235ed4dd0b4f548c59e91b75763

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on August 10, 2011
at 03:28 PM

Have any LC/Paleo books NOT been duds with docs??

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on August 10, 2011
at 01:10 PM

Both of Taubes books have been duds with docs I have noticed

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on August 10, 2011
at 08:07 PM

Robb's book has gotten a lot of docs attn. Of course I have given out about 150 copies of it.

D5096ff5baffc0ba5d20b21346414a7a

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on August 10, 2011
at 12:30 PM

I would agree except Taubes does not address the industrial oil/seed oil issue and that is huge when it comes to autoimmune disease IMHO. Jaminet and Perfect Health is good for M.D.s because it gives extensive footnotes to studies and journals as does Taubes. I have referred my OBGYN to the calcium studies.

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

(4764)

on August 10, 2011
at 07:33 PM

low carb is one thing but comprehensive paleo is another. Going with just the low carb angle is, I think, short sighted.

A45af235ed4dd0b4f548c59e91b75763

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on August 10, 2011
at 09:18 PM

I don't think that would be a bad choice either..

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on August 10, 2011
at 12:03 PM

Perfect Health Diet far and away. Nothing else would come close. I'd add a little note that they don't speak for all of the paleo movement and that their recommendations for carbs are on the higher side.

E639bc85fd42430285596434a6515ad5

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on August 10, 2011
at 04:15 PM

That would be my clear choice as well. Deep Nutrition by Shanahan would be my second choice.

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

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on August 10, 2011
at 07:32 PM

Stephan Lindberg's Food and Western Disease would ROCK. But it's nearly $80. http://www.amazon.com/Food-Western-Disease-evolutionary-perspective/dp/1405197714

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1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

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on August 10, 2011
at 12:03 PM

I actually haven't read any of the Paleo-based books out there, but I'd probably loan my doc a copy of Robb Wolf's "The Paleo Solution". He's been through many maladies which I'm sure doctors are familiar with. He's active, athletic and grounded. He's the epitome of modern-day Paleo.

The more technical data and references, and the fewer emotional arguments/justifications to go Paleo, the better. Docs want science and facts, not hyperbole and conjecture ;)

Luckily I also have a cool GP. He's younger and also a pediatrician, and helped me figure out what had been causing my recurrent UTI's (kidney stones) which my previous GP had failed to do (and is why I left her). When I saw him last December I'd lost nearly 20 lbs over the past year, and told him I'd been UTI-free. He was impressed, and open to the Paleo way of eating.

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on August 10, 2011
at 03:46 PM

I would think that Wolf's cutesy style would turn off doctors. The Quilt says some colleagues have responded favorably, but to me he really addresses his audience in an irritating way. I had to work hard to overlook it and read his message.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on August 10, 2011
at 01:10 PM

Jaminets book has not been a lighten rod for docs I have given too. Not sure it's the one to stimulate change. I think robs style is what hooks them honestly to explore more

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

(4764)

on August 10, 2011
at 12:23 PM

The reasons you list are the reasons I'd recommend Jaminet's book. It trumps Wolf's book in spades on reference, science, facts. And Wolf's book is still stuck on low fat.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on August 10, 2011
at 12:28 PM

I was introduced to Paleo through continuing education courses, but I thought Wolf's would be a good one to lend....never read Perfect Health Diet, sounds interesting.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on August 10, 2011
at 08:08 PM

Im giving you my N-1. Robb's book has been a hit with docs. And docs are the pay public with regard to nutrition.....you cats here know more than they do.

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

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on August 10, 2011
at 09:24 PM

Hey Nemesis - off topic but I'd really like to know who your doctor is in this area. If you feel like sharing, I'm at myaltid at gmail.

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on August 10, 2011
at 01:52 PM

I wouldn't recommend Robb's book because it's aimed toward the masses, not necessarily a doctor. Not to mention there are several grammatical/spelling errors that might disqualify his credentials to some.

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on August 10, 2011
at 11:07 PM

Not a prob, JCB: Dr. Brent Becklin at Morton Plant Mease Primary Care--mpmprimarycare.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/…

E639bc85fd42430285596434a6515ad5

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on August 10, 2011
at 04:32 PM

I love Robb Wolf's podcasts. He definitely knows his stuff, and he comes across as being intelligent, well-informed, and objective — in his podcasts. But I was put off by the smarmy writing style in his book. I wouldn't recommend it to somebody who isn't already inclined to agree with it.

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on August 10, 2011
at 05:11 PM

His podcasts are the only thing of his that I've heard from him, so if he didn't write his book like that then yes I'd be hesitant to recommend it :(

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on August 10, 2011
at 08:20 PM

Docs are human, too, aren't they? Robb's book is fun to read, and doesn't take too much time.

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on August 10, 2011
at 11:05 PM

Not a prob, JCB. He's Dr. Brent Becklin at Morton Plant Mease Primary Care--http://www.mpmprimarycare.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/site.physicians/action/dtl/phys/99804203.cfm

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on August 10, 2011
at 02:59 PM

I would give my doc Food and Western Disease by Staffan Lindberg

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on August 10, 2011
at 07:30 PM

YES!!!! Totally forgot about this one.

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on August 10, 2011
at 01:35 PM

I would love to give my doctor Taubes book. Torn between which one.

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on August 10, 2011
at 01:46 PM

I'd go with the latest - it's a simplified, annotated GCBC. Keep it simple for the overworked Docs who've probably been educated in the typical SAD manifesto. :)

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on August 10, 2011
at 03:49 PM

If they really want to rethink the lipid hypothesis, GCBC does that. You could just start with his NYT article. Unless they are willing to get past the saturated fat scare and get off the Lipitor bandwagon, there is no hope.

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on August 10, 2011
at 06:30 PM

This is like choosing your favorite child! I think Why We Get Fat...is excellent but not specifically paleo. If you put a gun to my head I'd have to go with Robb's book. It's just a good all-around primer for paleo I think.

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at 06:23 PM

If they were in a rush, I'd link them to http://flare8.net/health/doku.php/summations_conclusions because,

  1. If they wish to follow up on any references they were specifically interested in, they can easily/quickly do so.
    • The info is compelling enough to generate interest (for further research), but condensed enough that "I don't have enough time" wouldn't really be an adequate reason for not reading.
    • Covers many lines of evidence: human observation, clinical intervention trials, animal experiments, nutrition, pathogens, human/animal biology, etc.
    • Free and easily accessible

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at 03:18 PM

I'd second Why We Get Fat.

Also, I haven't finished it yet, but Phinney and Volek's The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living is looking pretty comprehensive and well-written, too.

Of course, these are LC books, not so much Paleo.

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on August 10, 2011
at 03:00 PM

I'd go with Western Price's book, still the best and written in a scientific manner any Doctor can appreciate.

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