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Ray Peat favorite articles and books?

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Created January 27, 2012 at 7:14 AM

What are your favorite Ray Peat articles and books? And/or what have you learned or applied to diet from reading Ray Peat?

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on April 15, 2012
at 09:37 PM

Bruno - That Kenogen stuff wrecked me, who ever makes it. I won't be using it again. I am friends with someone who is under the care of the Rubins. But she just started, but it sounds like its going well. I won't ever have the money to work with them, so it doesn't matter to me either way.

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on April 15, 2012
at 01:33 PM

Yeah, normal estrogen is high, the lower the better apparently. Also, Progest-E complex is not made by Peat, it's made by kenogen. Ray Peat made the patent for vitamin E + progesterone, but wasn't able to convince any company to make it. I'm not sure if Kenogen is actually allowed to do this, but Ray Peat won't complain. Well he never does. Do you think Josh and Jeanne Rubin are good? I'm not sure how experienced they are...

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on April 12, 2012
at 07:42 AM

Especially because the guy clearly wanted to talk, but they were out of time.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on April 12, 2012
at 07:42 AM

And the KMUD show about serotonin ends really sad :(, there's a caller who clearly lost all his friends, his wife, his family because of his depression and says *"the worst part of depression is the stigma"* man I felt bad after that.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on April 12, 2012
at 07:41 AM

Listen to http://eastwesthealing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/2-Hour-fundraiser-Feb-22-2012-1.mov : at 53:30 the caller says *"I'm just gonna hang up and listen to you guys... And I'm contemplating eating a meal and going to the bathroom afterwards."* couldn't stop laughing.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on January 27, 2012
at 11:55 PM

Hanne -my hormone test was strictly Saliva..no bloodwork on that. I was normal estrogen (which probably means high in Peats world), low progesterone, low dhea, and very very low testosterone (as noted above).

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on January 27, 2012
at 11:54 PM

Hanne -I am still working on figuring out the thyroid stuff. I had consulted with Lita Lee (who use's Peats diet recommendations) and thats how I got starting doses. The progesterone dose she recommended was giving me migraines like crazy. I have had thyroid panels done and a full month long saliva test. My testosterone was immeasurably low. Those were my "before" tests. Haven't had any recently. So I guess I am dosing via a combo of things and experimenting. I wanna work with Josh and Jean Rubin -but they are very expensive.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on January 27, 2012
at 11:51 PM

Eric -Ray Peat is a mysterious fig. He doesn't give a diet, like most guru's -you have to pull it out of all of his writings. Check out Danny Roddy's site. His recommendations are very Peat.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on January 27, 2012
at 11:50 PM

Hanne -I am still working on figuring out the thyroid stuff. Peat says low thyroid can cause bacterial overgrowth. I was hoping for more improvement too, but I can't help but think that I just don't have it all quite figured out yet.

0bd9775b305d2a602d496649982bc614

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on January 27, 2012
at 11:03 PM

I also have digestive problems. I'm on RP diet too. I'm dissapointed to hear that your digestive issues haven't gone away. I was hoping it to improve if I'm on the diet long enough.

0bd9775b305d2a602d496649982bc614

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on January 27, 2012
at 11:02 PM

I also have digestive problems. on RP diet it does not go away. I'm dissapointed to hear that yours hasn't gone away neither. I was hoping it to improve if I'm on the diet long enough.

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on January 27, 2012
at 11:01 PM

senneth- have you ever checked your hormone levels in blood? what do you base the dosage on? glandular thyroid, pregnenolone, progesterone all that.. also, have you checked your testosterone level?

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on January 27, 2012
at 10:42 PM

Is there a link to his diet? I did not see it on his website. Maybe I missed it though...

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on January 27, 2012
at 09:07 PM

They are not prescribed. I tried that route a few years back and the progesterone cream was made with soy lotion!! I originally got them from Lita Lee (a friend/fellow biochemist of Ray Peat). But I didn't dig on the enzyme approach she took, so I just buy them and use them on my own.

0bd9775b305d2a602d496649982bc614

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on January 27, 2012
at 08:55 PM

is your pregnenolone and progesterone prescribed ones? or health store ones?

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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at 08:53 PM

Here the link to the KMUD Archive.. http://kmud.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=83

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on January 27, 2012
at 07:36 PM

Also on KMUD "Friday Night Talks" , the third friday of everymonth. It s about a 2 hour long show hosted by some herbal medicine doctors. Januarys show wasn't recorded, but all the archive ones are great!

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F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

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on January 27, 2012
at 07:46 PM

I went on a Ray Peat binge last august and have since read his books, his newsletters (the ones after I signed up) and listened to many many hours of podcasts (if not all of em). I have filtered his work to pick out his recommendations for my particular health issues. (and had a lengthy consult with him -which was so confusing). I am still a bit lost in the woods. I follow Danny Roddy's blog to help me make sense of it.

So far I do the diet as he recommends, except the liquid milk (but do add some heavy cream in my coffee) as well as: gelatin, aspirin, glandular thyroid, pregnenolone, progesterone (I think its his own making -I get it from Lita Lee). I have recently went back and listened for dosing on Vitamin A and Vitamin K2. So I might start that in a few weeks.

Among my many digestive symptoms I have had for YEARS, I no longer have any inflammation (I used to not even be able to be hugged) and no constipation.

However some of my SIBO issues (bloating, burping, etc) are still in full force. I am hoping as my low -thyroid gets into gear, this will diminish. Naturally I eat the raw carrot (and cooked bamboo shoots), and have been since August, but it hasn't effected it so far. I think Ray was surprised to hear this.

I have also found out that too much progesterone gives me massive migraines. (Even though I have saliva tested low for this).

I like a lot of the stuff that Ray Peat has to say, but I take it with a grain of salt (sea salt, white) and keep trying to learn and understand better. I am not a total Ray Peat junkie as I sound -I am very up to date as to the rest of the nutritional world and wouldn't hesitate to change if something else caught my eye.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on January 27, 2012
at 11:55 PM

Hanne -my hormone test was strictly Saliva..no bloodwork on that. I was normal estrogen (which probably means high in Peats world), low progesterone, low dhea, and very very low testosterone (as noted above).

0bd9775b305d2a602d496649982bc614

(252)

on January 27, 2012
at 08:55 PM

is your pregnenolone and progesterone prescribed ones? or health store ones?

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on January 27, 2012
at 11:50 PM

Hanne -I am still working on figuring out the thyroid stuff. Peat says low thyroid can cause bacterial overgrowth. I was hoping for more improvement too, but I can't help but think that I just don't have it all quite figured out yet.

0bd9775b305d2a602d496649982bc614

(252)

on January 27, 2012
at 11:03 PM

I also have digestive problems. I'm on RP diet too. I'm dissapointed to hear that your digestive issues haven't gone away. I was hoping it to improve if I'm on the diet long enough.

0bd9775b305d2a602d496649982bc614

(252)

on January 27, 2012
at 11:01 PM

senneth- have you ever checked your hormone levels in blood? what do you base the dosage on? glandular thyroid, pregnenolone, progesterone all that.. also, have you checked your testosterone level?

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on January 27, 2012
at 10:42 PM

Is there a link to his diet? I did not see it on his website. Maybe I missed it though...

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on January 27, 2012
at 09:07 PM

They are not prescribed. I tried that route a few years back and the progesterone cream was made with soy lotion!! I originally got them from Lita Lee (a friend/fellow biochemist of Ray Peat). But I didn't dig on the enzyme approach she took, so I just buy them and use them on my own.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on January 27, 2012
at 11:51 PM

Eric -Ray Peat is a mysterious fig. He doesn't give a diet, like most guru's -you have to pull it out of all of his writings. Check out Danny Roddy's site. His recommendations are very Peat.

0bd9775b305d2a602d496649982bc614

(252)

on January 27, 2012
at 11:02 PM

I also have digestive problems. on RP diet it does not go away. I'm dissapointed to hear that yours hasn't gone away neither. I was hoping it to improve if I'm on the diet long enough.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on January 27, 2012
at 11:54 PM

Hanne -I am still working on figuring out the thyroid stuff. I had consulted with Lita Lee (who use's Peats diet recommendations) and thats how I got starting doses. The progesterone dose she recommended was giving me migraines like crazy. I have had thyroid panels done and a full month long saliva test. My testosterone was immeasurably low. Those were my "before" tests. Haven't had any recently. So I guess I am dosing via a combo of things and experimenting. I wanna work with Josh and Jean Rubin -but they are very expensive.

685e3c967e63b4eacccf02628fd9a3ac

(1026)

on April 15, 2012
at 01:33 PM

Yeah, normal estrogen is high, the lower the better apparently. Also, Progest-E complex is not made by Peat, it's made by kenogen. Ray Peat made the patent for vitamin E + progesterone, but wasn't able to convince any company to make it. I'm not sure if Kenogen is actually allowed to do this, but Ray Peat won't complain. Well he never does. Do you think Josh and Jeanne Rubin are good? I'm not sure how experienced they are...

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on April 15, 2012
at 09:37 PM

Bruno - That Kenogen stuff wrecked me, who ever makes it. I won't be using it again. I am friends with someone who is under the care of the Rubins. But she just started, but it sounds like its going well. I won't ever have the money to work with them, so it doesn't matter to me either way.

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on January 27, 2012
at 07:54 AM

Don't forget the excellent podcasts from EastWestHealing.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/eastwesthealing

I've learned not to fear the fructose, that having warmth in my extremities is a damn good sign, and that things I previously considered problematic like milk and sugar (I thought they triggered my acne for a long time) really aren't when used in proper context and in a nutrient rich diet with minimal PUFA.

Oh, and I've learned that once again having the libido of my younger self is very, very fun.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on January 27, 2012
at 08:53 PM

Here the link to the KMUD Archive.. http://kmud.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=83

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on January 27, 2012
at 07:36 PM

Also on KMUD "Friday Night Talks" , the third friday of everymonth. It s about a 2 hour long show hosted by some herbal medicine doctors. Januarys show wasn't recorded, but all the archive ones are great!

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on April 12, 2012
at 07:42 AM

Especially because the guy clearly wanted to talk, but they were out of time.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on April 12, 2012
at 07:42 AM

And the KMUD show about serotonin ends really sad :(, there's a caller who clearly lost all his friends, his wife, his family because of his depression and says *"the worst part of depression is the stigma"* man I felt bad after that.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on April 12, 2012
at 07:41 AM

Listen to http://eastwesthealing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/2-Hour-fundraiser-Feb-22-2012-1.mov : at 53:30 the caller says *"I'm just gonna hang up and listen to you guys... And I'm contemplating eating a meal and going to the bathroom afterwards."* couldn't stop laughing.

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on January 27, 2012
at 02:23 PM

I have added more gelatin to my diet after reading some of Ray Peat's writings.

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