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Has Paleo gone global?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created March 29, 2011 at 9:39 PM

I'm curious about the international presence of the Paleo lifestyle. Are there any books/authoritative sources on the Paleo diet that are popular in non-English speaking countries? Is the Paleo diet especially gaining momentum in any other countries in particular? Is there a phenomenal Paleo proponent in France that would justify polishing up my French?

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on July 25, 2012
at 01:41 PM

Don't know what you're looking for specifically, but i would buy vegetables at supermarket called Dirk (cheap) or market, grassfed meat you can only buy through online ordering, i can give you the details if you like. Coconut oil you get in larger sizes at Ecoplaza, which is the biggest organic chain. Any questions, ask me! And welcome to Holland!

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on July 24, 2012
at 05:37 PM

Any advice for someone moving there? We will be living in Utrecht :)

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on February 14, 2012
at 09:02 PM

This is pretty awesome. My parents (Taiwanese) are fairly healthy by normal standards, but still have some CW fears about saturated fat, cholesterol, and more complex topics. This is very helpful, and I appreciate your efforts here!

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on December 08, 2011
at 01:07 PM

I've heard about the Finnish concept of "sisu", so I assume macho is a part of that! But the Finns have vegans too don't they? And comedy is pretty much a universal, so that scene could have been done in pretty much any language.

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on December 08, 2011
at 09:25 AM

More of a sketch show, but yes.

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on December 08, 2011
at 02:57 AM

Is this a Finnish sitcom? Too cool!

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on December 07, 2011
at 09:52 PM

I've got news for you... there are about 5 McDonald's and BK's within a 6mi radius where I live--elsewhere in the world--and we also import foods from "all around the world". You can by a cheeseburger for just as cheap as you can in the US, and the McDonald's here are two stories, and packed every day of the week.

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on December 07, 2011
at 08:35 PM

Oh yeah, people eating paleo call themselves "barbarians."

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on December 07, 2011
at 08:34 PM

Oh yeah, people eating paleo in Finland are called "barbarians."

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on March 29, 2011
at 09:41 PM

I've been wondering about this too.

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on March 30, 2011
at 01:12 PM

I have news for you--we're the LAST ones to go Paleo if you're speaking of eating a diet native to the area. Third World countries have been eating this way forever, and then we had to go mess it up with the introduction of fast food outlets, UN food relief supplies, and so on.

Countries that limit food imports have also been relying on native diets and what they could manage to grow at home (think Cuba here).

Elsewhere in the world, foreign foods are too expensive to eat compared with what grows naturally in the area. Since we import more types of food than we grow, we've become accustomed to having stuff available year-round, and plenty of it.

We messed with the seasons by importing from around the world, where summer is in our winter, and winter is in our summer--there are no more seasons, and almost no more scare availability of anything (except money to buy it).

Read any books you can get ahold of that talk about "blue zones."

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on December 07, 2011
at 09:52 PM

I've got news for you... there are about 5 McDonald's and BK's within a 6mi radius where I live--elsewhere in the world--and we also import foods from "all around the world". You can by a cheeseburger for just as cheap as you can in the US, and the McDonald's here are two stories, and packed every day of the week.

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on December 07, 2011
at 06:28 PM

There's a paleo restaurant in Berlin (Germany) now, 'Sauvage'!

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on March 29, 2011
at 11:42 PM

The only one I'm aware of is my own effort at translating a portion of my site Paleo for Life to Traditional Chinese.

You can see it here: ???????????????????????????

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on February 14, 2012
at 09:02 PM

This is pretty awesome. My parents (Taiwanese) are fairly healthy by normal standards, but still have some CW fears about saturated fat, cholesterol, and more complex topics. This is very helpful, and I appreciate your efforts here!

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on July 24, 2012
at 12:34 PM

Paleo has its followers in Hong Kong but currently nothing organized. Probably it's also because the Crossfit scene has not taken off yet. Trying to offer a platform for primal people be it residents or tourists to exchange knowledge and advice. Hong Kong needs more Paleo joints.

Here's the Hong Kong Paleo site: packofpacks.weebly.com

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on July 24, 2012
at 11:55 AM

Paleo is still small in Holland (but then again, everythings here is), we have around 200 people on the Facebook site. Recently a national magazine that tests foods and other products wrote an article about Paleo. Thought that was a good sign!

p.s. I've been to restaurant Sauvage in Berlin, definately recommend it, hurah for Germany ;-)

8bd4275b51cc3fd0d6574ffd3dd8ff67

(23)

on July 25, 2012
at 01:41 PM

Don't know what you're looking for specifically, but i would buy vegetables at supermarket called Dirk (cheap) or market, grassfed meat you can only buy through online ordering, i can give you the details if you like. Coconut oil you get in larger sizes at Ecoplaza, which is the biggest organic chain. Any questions, ask me! And welcome to Holland!

Dabdb4e771b72dff14709b0258b207a7

(201)

on July 24, 2012
at 05:37 PM

Any advice for someone moving there? We will be living in Utrecht :)

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on July 24, 2012
at 08:48 AM

The German Paleo Facebook group is growing, and has already 600 members, which is not so bad after all.. I see more Gluten-free signs and such things around, too, so that´s kinda nice. Plus, we have the "Sauvage", a Paleo Restaurant in Berlin :)

And, to shamelessly promote me, I´ve written a Paleo Cookbook on german, but also in english, it´s called "I love real food.":

http://paleo-foodporn.blogspot.de/p/i-love-real-food-english-version-as-e.html

Love the growing of the Word :) (BTW, to speak of Europe, Danmark totally rocks the hell out of Paleo!)

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on July 24, 2012
at 06:05 AM

http://paleo-regime.fr/ This seems to be the main Paleo site. I know the found of MovNat, Erwan Le Corre, is French. Also there's the French doctor Jean Seignalet, who promoted an ancestral diet.

I recently spent 8 months in France and I don't think Paleo has caught on at all. It's difficult to avoid the pastries, baguettes, heavy cheese consumption, and SUGAR which is ubiquitous (they love their dessert and in general eat something sweet after every dinner). Exercising, especially lifting weights, doesn't seem to be very popular. I attempted to follow a Paleo lifestyle there but found it near impossible with the bread and sugar at every meal (I had French roommates who ate a typical French diet and we shared meals). The French have a very strong food culture and are very proud of it, so that makes it difficult to adopt new eating habits. The difficulty of maintaining a Paleo lifestyle there is one of the main reasons I don't think I could live in France long-term. HOWEVER, the French are generally much better at eating real food than Americans are - lots of vegetables, a variety of meats and animal parts (I ate horse, rabbit, blood sausage, and offal regularly), butter for cooking. Every French person I met knew how to cook, so that helps a lot. Plus raw milk, raw cheeses, high-quality sources of grassfed meats are much more accessible there than they are in California, where I currently live. So if you have enough willpower to avoid temptation of bread and sweets at every meal and pastry shops on every corner (which I don't), and you're willing to put up with the social pressure at French dinners (which I wasn't), France has some very high-quality meats and produce that anyone who's doing Paleo would love to have access to. Also I know that there are a handful of Crossfit gyms in France - I'd bet the Crossfitters are eating Paleo.

I've only spent a week in Germany, but from what I understand about their food traditions (sausages, meats, sauerkraut, less rigid meal culture) and their culture in general (much sportier and active, more open to different cultures, and more open to new health practices), it seems much more conducive to a Paleo lifestyle than France is.

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on December 07, 2011
at 08:33 PM

It's pretty big in Finland. We have a strong macho culture, and paleo fits in nicely.

A demonstration here. It's in Finnish, but pretty self-explanatory: vegan boyfriend on the left describes his tofu-soya-mush with typical vegan smugness, and a paleo aficionado on the right does his thing.

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on December 07, 2011
at 08:35 PM

Oh yeah, people eating paleo call themselves "barbarians."

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on December 07, 2011
at 08:34 PM

Oh yeah, people eating paleo in Finland are called "barbarians."

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on December 08, 2011
at 09:25 AM

More of a sketch show, but yes.

499f188c87c6980742b9ba98caa6f563

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on December 08, 2011
at 01:07 PM

I've heard about the Finnish concept of "sisu", so I assume macho is a part of that! But the Finns have vegans too don't they? And comedy is pretty much a universal, so that scene could have been done in pretty much any language.

499f188c87c6980742b9ba98caa6f563

(683)

on December 08, 2011
at 02:57 AM

Is this a Finnish sitcom? Too cool!

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on December 07, 2011
at 08:02 PM

A number of PH members have casually mentioned living in various other countries. I agree with Wenchypoo, we were definitely part of the problem and we are the slowest, weakest link in the recovery. Ancestral eating requires a transformation rather than a tweak. The rest of the world is closer to where we were in the early 70s or even earlier--or they never got very far off track at all.

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