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Any studies showing bone broth works?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created July 20, 2012 at 11:44 PM

More specifically, any peer-reviewed studies showing that bone broth does all the things it is claimed to do? I've seen a lot of anecdotal evidence, people saying they were cured by it, etc, but I've not see anyone point to serious evidence in the form of controlled trials.

If anyone has some I'd be appreciative. Anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything, so please don't respond with mere personal experience. It's no more useful than a person saying prayer to the spaghetti god caused them to lose weight.

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

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on April 28, 2013
at 05:50 AM

Can you elaborate on how it is anti-inflammatory for you? What inflammation goes down?

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

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on July 24, 2012
at 07:34 PM

Your comments kind of suck. I don't really feel the need to respond. Remember this place is about insulting people, right?

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 22, 2012
at 04:26 PM

@Dualhammers....great question. I also like to see real studies, rather than anecdotal evidence.

43f469552cfd3be73fc88a9821b14986

on July 21, 2012
at 03:29 PM

I hear you loud and clear Dualhammers, but where do the universities get their funding? Wealthy indiiduals and corporations. If you fund the Dualhammers chair of biochemistry you could stipulate you want research in bone marrow. Unfortunately what we have are mostly Arm&Hammer Baking Soda chairs.

43f469552cfd3be73fc88a9821b14986

on July 21, 2012
at 03:16 PM

I hear you loud and clear Dualhammers, but where do the universities get their funding? Wealthy indiiduals and corporations. If you find the Dualhammers chair of biochemistry you could stipulate you want research in bone marrow. Unfortunately what we have are mostly Arm&Hammer chairs.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on July 21, 2012
at 01:57 PM

And incidentally you hold the stance that gut health has nothing to do with better nutritional absorption or inflammation?

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on July 21, 2012
at 01:44 PM

I find it funny that down in this comment you come to the conclusion that a reductionist study shows nothing, then you move to another question were there is an indication that one of the constituents of broth may be beneficial for one particular process in the body....and you decide that you should just take that one thing since that's what the study shows. That is reductionism my friend.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 21, 2012
at 01:43 PM

I find it funny that down in this comment you come to the conclusion that a reductionist study shows nothing, then you move to another question were there is an indication that one of the constituents of broth....and you decide that you should just take that one thing since that's what the study shows. That is reductionism my friend.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 21, 2012
at 01:41 PM

I find it funny that down in this comment you come to the conclusion that a reductionist study proves nothing, then you move to another question were there is proof shown for one of the constituents of broth....and you decide that you should just take that one thing since that's what the study shows. That is reductionism my friend.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 21, 2012
at 01:35 PM

"I forgot..." thats ok just get it straight next time.

45ace03a0eff1219943d746cfb1c4197

(3661)

on July 21, 2012
at 12:16 PM

Just a reminder, scientists and labs brought us frankenfood. Better living through science and all that.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:17 AM

Oh, I take the stuff anyway, but cooking up larger pots take time to strain and manage. If I am dosing myself at higher levels than soup every so often I want to make sure there is benefit before I put time into it.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:12 AM

Then I have some crystals to sell you; they cured my aids.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:12 AM

Thank you, this is precisely what I was looking for. Although, this kind of leads to the conclusion that it would be easier to just take type II collagen and leave the broth for when I just want soup.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:10 AM

Exactly what ZombieApocalypseKitten said. I could play video games until my tendinitis is healed and have the same level of evidence that video games healed my condition. Two things happening concurrently isn't proof, especially with a system as complex as the human body.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:08 AM

@jamie Gut health is entirely different from the healing of tendons.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

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on July 21, 2012
at 10:08 AM

@ThinnerStrength Not only pharma companies fund trials - we have tons of pure research universities. I am sure it is a long short, but I imagined if any group of people is obsessive enough to have found some buried article on the subject it would be the people at Paleohacks.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:06 AM

Any biologist will tell you that a pure reductionist study doesn't prove anything. A combination of materials in a specific form may be needed. Simple example would be what we drink - liquid oxygen would kill us, but H2O is perfect. Should I study the effects of liquid oxygen on the body to figure out if water is good for me? Your assumption is fine, but I am looking to see if anyone has found proof. Oh wait, I forgot, this is the place to insult people and not actually share knowledge. I forgot.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:03 AM

That isn't a review it is a data table, and it isn't pertinent to the question.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:02 AM

I am trying it, but tendonitis can heal on its own and it going away wouldn't necessarily be proof.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 21, 2012
at 03:42 AM

Yup, left that out didn't I...good catch. And you know what they say about great minds miked ;)

43f469552cfd3be73fc88a9821b14986

on July 21, 2012
at 03:06 AM

Here is a review from your peers! http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/recipe/2422683/2

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 21, 2012
at 02:59 AM

You have tendonitis? Why not just try it? (or some of the consituent parts if u cant be bother boiling bones?)

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 21, 2012
at 02:57 AM

I beleive bone broth also has glutamine, just to add that. Both glutamine and gelatin have some good positive studies re gut health.

510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

(20898)

on July 21, 2012
at 02:23 AM

Wish I could plus this more than one! I came here to say basically that, but you beat me to it.

8292546789ca48c32ead34c6e884d059

on July 21, 2012
at 01:35 AM

It could be placebo. I'm not saying placebo is bad, but I'd rather it not cost time or money.

1955b5516a3eaedce732f4ea8bb3fa6c

on July 21, 2012
at 01:03 AM

Neat article, has anyone done bone broth with eggshells and/or crustacean shells? Egg shells would be a really cheap addition to making a heartier bone broth, I wonder if it changes the taste. (I have very little bone broth making experience)

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8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

on July 21, 2012
at 04:05 AM

http://blog.lef.org/2012/01/chicken-broth-painful-joints.html From this blog:

This is where cartilage comes into play. It???s the perfect substance for smooth, near friction-free motion. Cartilage is mainly comprised of type-2 collagen, the primary protein found in your in your joints, along with water and other small molecules.

With age, wear-and-tear on your joints erodes the cartilage, exposes collagen and narrows the joint space. The exposed collagen is attacked by your immune system leading to high levels of inflammation. The process just described is what doctors call osteoarthritis ??? the age-related degradation of joint cartilage and bone. A similar process occurs in rheumatoid arthritis as well.

Chicken Broth is NOT an Old Wives Tale

Despite the fact that half of all prescriptions for non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDS) such as ibuprofen are written for osteoarthritis, those drugs do nothing more than transiently blunt the pain. They have no long-term impact on the disease itself.1

In the year 2000, scientists discovered that chicken soup actually inhibited the attraction of immune system cells called neutrophils to the site of inflammation. 2

Overall, this eases inflammation and inhibits cartilage destruction. With additional studies, the researchers were surprised to find out that it wasn???t the vegetables in chicken soup that provided benefit, but it was actually the broth. So what???s providing the benefit in the broth? Collagen. Let us explain.

Collagen Creates Immune Tolerance

Ingesting chicken collagen diminishes the immune attack against exposed collagen in your joints. Immunologists call this ???immune tolerance.??? We think that???s pretty cool.

Researchers at Harvard's Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston have studied oral type-2 collagen in patients suffering from rheumatoid arthritis. In one study of 60 patients with active rheumatoid arthritis, a decrease in the number of swollen and tender joints was found in subjects who supplemented with type-2 collagen.3

Still more remarkably, 14% of those patients taking collagen achieved complete remission of the disease, an unusual finding for any form of treatment. Similar results were obtained in a much larger trial of 274 patients with active rheumatoid arthritis.4

The Harvard group also studied patients with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis. Ten patients supplemented with type-2 collagen for 12 weeks.5 Eight patients responded to treatment, experiencing average significant reduction in swollen and tender joints. Importantly, no serious adverse events were reported.

Collagen Eases Pain Better than Traditional Supplements Other studies have shown that oral type-2 collagen is superior to the combination of chondroitin and glucosamine sulfate.6,7 Also interesting, however, are findings that show combining oral collagen with glucosamine and chondroitin is the best approach for reducing pain and increasing joint function.6,7

References 1. Int J Med Sci. 2009;6(6):312-21.

  1. Chest. 2000 Oct;118(4):1150-7.

  2. Science. 1993 Sep 24;261(5129):1727-30.

  3. Arthritis Rheum. 1998 Feb;41(2):290-7.

  4. Arthritis Rheum. 1996 Apr;39(4):623-8.

  5. J Vet Pharmacol Ther. 2009 Dec;32(6):577-84.

  6. Int J Clin Pharmacol Res. 2002;22(3-4):101-10.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:12 AM

Thank you, this is precisely what I was looking for. Although, this kind of leads to the conclusion that it would be easier to just take type II collagen and leave the broth for when I just want soup.

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43f469552cfd3be73fc88a9821b14986

on July 20, 2012
at 11:59 PM

I hear you on the anecdotal issue. But the reality is that pharma companies can invest 300M in randomized controlled trials, peer reviewed studies.

Who is going to fund studies of boiled bones?

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:03 AM

That isn't a review it is a data table, and it isn't pertinent to the question.

43f469552cfd3be73fc88a9821b14986

on July 21, 2012
at 03:29 PM

I hear you loud and clear Dualhammers, but where do the universities get their funding? Wealthy indiiduals and corporations. If you fund the Dualhammers chair of biochemistry you could stipulate you want research in bone marrow. Unfortunately what we have are mostly Arm&Hammer Baking Soda chairs.

43f469552cfd3be73fc88a9821b14986

on July 21, 2012
at 03:16 PM

I hear you loud and clear Dualhammers, but where do the universities get their funding? Wealthy indiiduals and corporations. If you find the Dualhammers chair of biochemistry you could stipulate you want research in bone marrow. Unfortunately what we have are mostly Arm&Hammer chairs.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:08 AM

@ThinnerStrength Not only pharma companies fund trials - we have tons of pure research universities. I am sure it is a long short, but I imagined if any group of people is obsessive enough to have found some buried article on the subject it would be the people at Paleohacks.

43f469552cfd3be73fc88a9821b14986

on July 21, 2012
at 03:06 AM

Here is a review from your peers! http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/recipe/2422683/2

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on July 21, 2012
at 02:15 AM

Your question kind of sucks. If you read much research you realize that they tend to break things down in a reductionist pattern. So rather than asking about bone broth do some google sholar on the constituents that make up bone broth like glycosaminoglycans (GAGs), chondroitin sulfate, keratin sulfate, and hyaluronic acid, glycine, proline, collagen, gelatin, and the various minerals. I'm not going to waste time doing this for you.

Once you find all the positive studies in relation to the above you can make some logical assumptions as to what combining all of these constituents into one place and ingesting them in a matter congruent with our heritage does for us. My assumption is that they work in synergistic manner where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts to improve health.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 21, 2012
at 01:35 PM

"I forgot..." thats ok just get it straight next time.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:08 AM

@jamie Gut health is entirely different from the healing of tendons.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 21, 2012
at 01:43 PM

I find it funny that down in this comment you come to the conclusion that a reductionist study shows nothing, then you move to another question were there is an indication that one of the constituents of broth....and you decide that you should just take that one thing since that's what the study shows. That is reductionism my friend.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 21, 2012
at 01:44 PM

I find it funny that down in this comment you come to the conclusion that a reductionist study shows nothing, then you move to another question were there is an indication that one of the constituents of broth may be beneficial for one particular process in the body....and you decide that you should just take that one thing since that's what the study shows. That is reductionism my friend.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 21, 2012
at 01:57 PM

And incidentally you hold the stance that gut health has nothing to do with better nutritional absorption or inflammation?

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 21, 2012
at 03:42 AM

Yup, left that out didn't I...good catch. And you know what they say about great minds miked ;)

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:06 AM

Any biologist will tell you that a pure reductionist study doesn't prove anything. A combination of materials in a specific form may be needed. Simple example would be what we drink - liquid oxygen would kill us, but H2O is perfect. Should I study the effects of liquid oxygen on the body to figure out if water is good for me? Your assumption is fine, but I am looking to see if anyone has found proof. Oh wait, I forgot, this is the place to insult people and not actually share knowledge. I forgot.

510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

(20898)

on July 21, 2012
at 02:23 AM

Wish I could plus this more than one! I came here to say basically that, but you beat me to it.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 21, 2012
at 02:57 AM

I beleive bone broth also has glutamine, just to add that. Both glutamine and gelatin have some good positive studies re gut health.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 21, 2012
at 01:41 PM

I find it funny that down in this comment you come to the conclusion that a reductionist study proves nothing, then you move to another question were there is proof shown for one of the constituents of broth....and you decide that you should just take that one thing since that's what the study shows. That is reductionism my friend.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 24, 2012
at 07:34 PM

Your comments kind of suck. I don't really feel the need to respond. Remember this place is about insulting people, right?

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707342e3cb97e0fc088917919a154b8a

on July 21, 2012
at 03:14 AM

Unlike expensive-- and potentially dangerous-- meds, bone broth costs next to nothing to make (some butchers will give you bones for free-- or you can often purchase them for $2-3/lb, even for grassfed)-- and it takes almost no (active) time to make.

It costs little money, takes almost no time, has few (if any) potential side effects, and tastes damn good-- really, what do you have to lose? At worst, you'll have a tasty and inexpensive meal-- at best, you'll have an inexpensive 'cure'.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:17 AM

Oh, I take the stuff anyway, but cooking up larger pots take time to strain and manage. If I am dosing myself at higher levels than soup every so often I want to make sure there is benefit before I put time into it.

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782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

on July 21, 2012
at 12:03 AM

Even if studies showed bone broth to be beneficial it may still not work for you. If it does work for you, then who cares about the studies?

8292546789ca48c32ead34c6e884d059

on July 21, 2012
at 01:35 AM

It could be placebo. I'm not saying placebo is bad, but I'd rather it not cost time or money.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:10 AM

Exactly what ZombieApocalypseKitten said. I could play video games until my tendinitis is healed and have the same level of evidence that video games healed my condition. Two things happening concurrently isn't proof, especially with a system as complex as the human body.

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45ace03a0eff1219943d746cfb1c4197

(3661)

on July 21, 2012
at 01:02 AM

I love science. Still, I am not naive enough, especially in light of all the falsified studies coming out of the woodwork as of late, to believe that a study makes it so. Personally, I hold more stock in the anecdotal evidence.

091423a30c0188fbff51e39397e7e056

(384)

on July 21, 2012
at 10:12 AM

Then I have some crystals to sell you; they cured my aids.

45ace03a0eff1219943d746cfb1c4197

(3661)

on July 21, 2012
at 12:16 PM

Just a reminder, scientists and labs brought us frankenfood. Better living through science and all that.

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0faecc3397025eab246241f4dcd81f5e

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on July 21, 2012
at 12:55 AM

There are a couple of studies linked to in this article. I imagine most studies would use extracts derived from bone cartilage etc rather than the broth itself. Not ideal - but it would show that an active ingredient in joint tissue works. http://myhealingkitchen.com/medical-conditions/arthritis/arthritis-make-it-better/toss-the-glucosamine-bone-broth-is-more-effective/

1955b5516a3eaedce732f4ea8bb3fa6c

on July 21, 2012
at 01:03 AM

Neat article, has anyone done bone broth with eggshells and/or crustacean shells? Egg shells would be a really cheap addition to making a heartier bone broth, I wonder if it changes the taste. (I have very little bone broth making experience)

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9ee40c25d6ec277fb07d2c271619b7cf

on April 27, 2013
at 11:27 AM

Bone broth is quite easy to make if you purchase a slow cooker, aka large crock pot. I use a 7 qt pot and make a great batch overnight. The slow nonboil method is better for preserving the broth integrity, exhibited by the "gel" it produces. I take a quart per day and it does wonders for my health and digestion. I find it to be very anti inflammatory. It also increases protein absorption. I'm hooked.

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

(3979)

on April 28, 2013
at 05:50 AM

Can you elaborate on how it is anti-inflammatory for you? What inflammation goes down?

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43f469552cfd3be73fc88a9821b14986

on July 22, 2012
at 04:11 PM

BONE AND VEGETABLE BROTH BY R. A. McCANCE, W. SHELDON AND E. M. WIDDOWSON. (From the Biochemical and Children's Departments, King's College Hospital, London.)

http://adc.bmj.com/content/9/52/251

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724ac8ed9ddc603e87adf6cfb901a8d8

on July 21, 2012
at 03:15 AM

My take on it is, try it for a few days/weeks/a month and see if it makes a difference for you. The best type of study, imo

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