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Do top quality bodybuilding supplements really work?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 11, 2012 at 2:43 AM

I found a website of a guy who when from skinny to an enormous body builder in about 6 years, and he attributed much of what he did to his supplementing, then showed a link which includes whey protein, zinc and magnesium, and creatine, among others. Has anyone actually gotten desired results from using these supplements?

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on January 13, 2012
at 03:18 PM

FURTHERMORE (:P): l-Leuicne has been proven to significantly enhance muscle nutrient uptake and recovery, and everyone should supp it PWO. Glutamine is more of a grey area, but for some reason is far more well-known. There's lots of data supporting it, but its unlikely you'll need it along with egg-whites (they contain plenty) unless you train like a psycho like I do, lol. Creatine is a no-brainer. I won't go into detail on this.

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on January 13, 2012
at 03:16 PM

further info: egg-white powder since it's the highest BV of all protein supps you can get, and contains far more aminos per gram. I don't buy into the 'whey protein is teh bestest cuz its fast' fad. Absorption is primarily based on the complexity of PWO carbs, and fat consumption. Keep both to a minimum and your gravy.

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on January 13, 2012
at 03:14 PM

explain what they are? or why I consume mono/polysaccharides postworkout? They're both high GI glucose carbs. Dextrose is a monosaccharide, and probably the most optimal carb for shuttling protein, nutrients, and itself to your muscles post workout. Malto is a complex carb, but still very high GI, so it absorbs a little slower, but still has the potential to 'keep the feed going'. A quick google search will confirm that scientific studies innumerous have confirmed that a ratio of protein:dextrose:malto of 1:1:1 is pretty much the optimal recovery drink.

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on January 11, 2012
at 05:28 PM

dextrose? maltodextrin? .... care to explain?

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on January 11, 2012
at 04:49 PM

Yeah, I was thinking supplements like testosterone as well.

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on January 11, 2012
at 12:12 PM

^ absolutely this. You think Jay Cutler uses crap like maximuscle? srsly lol

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on January 11, 2012
at 10:38 AM

Could it be that he is trying to sell you something?

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on January 11, 2012
at 04:31 AM

skinny to enormous body builder in 6 years?

That's fairly attainable if your genetics are right, you are eating a crapload, you are sleeping 10 hours a night, and you are training well. Supplements (whey) simply make it easier to eat more, frankly, being in liquid form.

The zinc/magnesium probably helps the guy sleep better. Also, because of the high concentrations of calcium in the normal BB'ers diet, they are usually fairly deficient in Magnesium (it gets used processing the calcium in your body), so it (magnesium) helps if you are getting 75% of your protein from a dairy source.

Creatine allows you to train a little bit harder in the gym, and it also increases water retention to muscles.

However, if the guy was really skinny (like 140 at 6' tall) and shot up to 200-210lbs or more in 6 years and kept his abs, I'd suspect some other supplements, the ones you can't buy at GNC. If your definition of "Enormous" is a ripped skinny guy, than sure...

For what it's worth, I take zinc, magnesium, and b6 before bed because it helps me sleep. Eating 2lbs of meat a day means I don't need protein powder, or creatine. My only other supplements are spirulina and Cod Liver Oil (or Fish Oil in the summer).

As for the other stuff... I paid my dues, and I had to go through 2 shoulder surgeries and poor sexual health for over a year due to my recklessness.

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on January 11, 2012
at 04:49 PM

Yeah, I was thinking supplements like testosterone as well.

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on January 11, 2012
at 09:17 AM

I was untrained 2 years ago - today I'm around 50lbs heavier and have a smaller waist - and I don't train to be a bodybuilder, just for strength and conditioning(!)

So short answer is yes, in 6 years you can do anything (note that bodybuilders/ powerlifters/ strongmen all range from early twenties to late thirties - the earlier end of this demographic should clearly indicate that anything is possible in half a decade).

HOWEVER Let me state that in 6 years, you can acheive exactly the same without any supplements whatsoever. When I started, yes, I tried every advertised product under the sun. Today the only supps I use are:

  • Dextrose,
  • Maltodextrin,
  • l-Glutamine,
  • l-Leucine,
  • Creatine,
  • Egg-white powder.

All of these go into my post-workout shake only. I take no other "bodybuilding supps" at any other time. Long before I started on paleo, I realised thre is no substitute for lots of water, meat and milk.

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on January 11, 2012
at 05:28 PM

dextrose? maltodextrin? .... care to explain?

082bf04a7486991c5e573a66f1404b3e

(813)

on January 13, 2012
at 03:16 PM

further info: egg-white powder since it's the highest BV of all protein supps you can get, and contains far more aminos per gram. I don't buy into the 'whey protein is teh bestest cuz its fast' fad. Absorption is primarily based on the complexity of PWO carbs, and fat consumption. Keep both to a minimum and your gravy.

082bf04a7486991c5e573a66f1404b3e

(813)

on January 13, 2012
at 03:18 PM

FURTHERMORE (:P): l-Leuicne has been proven to significantly enhance muscle nutrient uptake and recovery, and everyone should supp it PWO. Glutamine is more of a grey area, but for some reason is far more well-known. There's lots of data supporting it, but its unlikely you'll need it along with egg-whites (they contain plenty) unless you train like a psycho like I do, lol. Creatine is a no-brainer. I won't go into detail on this.

082bf04a7486991c5e573a66f1404b3e

(813)

on January 13, 2012
at 03:14 PM

explain what they are? or why I consume mono/polysaccharides postworkout? They're both high GI glucose carbs. Dextrose is a monosaccharide, and probably the most optimal carb for shuttling protein, nutrients, and itself to your muscles post workout. Malto is a complex carb, but still very high GI, so it absorbs a little slower, but still has the potential to 'keep the feed going'. A quick google search will confirm that scientific studies innumerous have confirmed that a ratio of protein:dextrose:malto of 1:1:1 is pretty much the optimal recovery drink.

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on January 11, 2012
at 04:56 AM

Yes, no, and maybe. You didn't list out the supplements has listed, and you don't really need to. You can count on one hand the top end non-drug supplements that give you the best bang for the buck for the non-bodybuilder. #1 CFM Whey Isolate. #2 CreaPure Creatine. 2a Dextrose (really an add on to #1 and #2). #3 BCAA's.

There are other supplements for bodybuilders that add on to what Whey and Creatine do, but at dwindling returns and a higher cost, and really don't benefit the vast majority of us that are just working out. At that point, it's really dwindling one digit percents of improvement IMHO.

Pretty much everything else is lies, damn lies, and statistics. There's a whole heck of a lot of outright lying and deception in the fitness industry.

140 to 210lbs or so of lean muscle mass in 6 years is doable for a lot of people. But you have to be dedicated to it pretty much all that time. It's not easy.

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on January 11, 2012
at 04:30 AM

first of all, 6 years is a long time. If you lift hard and systematically, you will be very long before 6 years.

I only use Whey(I like Whey because it helps me consume extra calories)

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on July 10, 2012
at 09:04 AM

When I see drastic changes in people after they join a gym it really surprises me that how it can happen in such small span of time. But hats off to the guys those who work so hard for an hour and get results. But I would like to question that Is it possible to reduce weight without having any supplement or pills?

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