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How do I grow red blood cells faster

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 10, 2011 at 6:18 PM

When the lady asked me if I wanted to give blood, I thought 'No, not a bit' But I hear its good for me, and whoever gets it, and I had no reason not to. I'm training for a marathon, so I'll need them red blood cells pretty badly, they have their work cut out for them. I figured that they would grow back in a week and a half or two, but once again I was wrong. Its more like 56 days, thats what the lady said. So by the time the marathon happens I will not have a full boat of RBCs. Now that I have less ability to carry O2 to my legs, my heart has to work a bit harder, which increases the intensity of my slow jog and pretty much ruins all the progress I've made. Aerobic ability seems to be down by about 7%, right in line with the volume of blood they took. They will of course regenerate, but I'd like to hurry things along a bit, any ideas? I hear low O2 levels will stimulate RBC growth, but I cant go live on a mountain top and breathing from a badly adjusted SCUBA tank is just plain stupid.

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on September 11, 2011
at 08:49 PM

Eat pastured butter. Kerrygold Irish butter is excellent. Great source of Vitamin D, Vitamin K, and Vitamin A. I think E as well. Butter is not bad for you? Neither are eggs! Who told you those lies? ;)

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on September 11, 2011
at 08:41 AM

I would need like 500 grams of local eggs daily.

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on September 11, 2011
at 08:37 AM

Perhaps our eggs are lower in nutrition but i calculated and it seems 3 eggs isnt enough to ensure good amount of vitamin E.

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on September 11, 2011
at 04:35 AM

I hope not to have to give out on eggs, they are so convient source of many nutrients. I need to reduce the butter, i just started cooking with coconut oil, and will be ordering more duck fat.

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on September 11, 2011
at 04:34 AM

30 days isn't so bad, I'll have close to a full boat of the little buggers by then. But until then, I sure can tell the diffence. On the same route, same temp and time of day, and nearly the same speed my heart was beating a solid 15-20 bpm faster, taking me right out of the comfortable 'burning mostly fat' zone and into the high intensity 'cant hold this pace for long' zone. Thanks for the answers, you paleo hackers are alright, I dont care what everybody says!

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on September 11, 2011
at 12:32 AM

I work in hematology or the study of blood and this is probably the most accurate answer I've seen on here. You can't really produce RBC's in fewer than 30 days because that's how long it takes them to mature in the bone marrow to become mature erythrocytes. Increasing the iron and ie. the HGB is a great workaround because it ultimately increase the oxygen binding capacity of the existing RBC's in your body. It'll will not give you more RBC's sooner, but it will make your existing RBC's more capable of carrying oxygen and much more stable.

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on September 10, 2011
at 11:18 PM

I think it's a much better idea to avoid dairy fat and specifically eat more egg yolks. Your body creates huge amounts of cholesterol (around 800mg on a low dietary cholesterol day) anyway, so I advocate eating plenty of it and letting your body decide how much to sythesize or excrete.

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on September 10, 2011
at 09:57 PM

Altitude. EPO. Anabolic steroids. Very high doses of echinacea. Cobalt chloride. Blood doping.

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on September 10, 2011
at 07:48 PM

The chickens are not pastured in winter here. And i am wondering if i should limit eggs due to my too high TC. Hopefully its just the butter that does it. Since even the best organic butter isnt so great in finland, cows usually are pastured less than six months a year anyway.

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on September 10, 2011
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I eat 4 pastured, hard-boiled egg yolks per day, which are a great source of vitamin E: http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/05/pastured-eggs.html

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Many paleos must be low on Vitamin E, its not so plentiful in most common paleo foodstuf. And i wonder if the RDA is even optimal. Might be better to have more. I bet i am low on Vitamin E and calcium.

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on September 10, 2011
at 07:21 PM

56 days is the length of time between donating blood. You actually replace the fluid loss within hours, and the red blood cells within about 30 days. It's the iron that takes longer to replace, taking about 8 weeks, though it might be faster for paleo people, eating more iron-rich foods than the average person.

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on September 11, 2011
at 04:34 AM

30 days isn't so bad, I'll have close to a full boat of the little buggers by then. But until then, I sure can tell the diffence. On the same route, same temp and time of day, and nearly the same speed my heart was beating a solid 15-20 bpm faster, taking me right out of the comfortable 'burning mostly fat' zone and into the high intensity 'cant hold this pace for long' zone. Thanks for the answers, you paleo hackers are alright, I dont care what everybody says!

396679d1e1357eb7e9397ca34c8773ea

(454)

on September 11, 2011
at 12:32 AM

I work in hematology or the study of blood and this is probably the most accurate answer I've seen on here. You can't really produce RBC's in fewer than 30 days because that's how long it takes them to mature in the bone marrow to become mature erythrocytes. Increasing the iron and ie. the HGB is a great workaround because it ultimately increase the oxygen binding capacity of the existing RBC's in your body. It'll will not give you more RBC's sooner, but it will make your existing RBC's more capable of carrying oxygen and much more stable.

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on February 16, 2013
at 11:03 AM

hello mera naam nimra bibi hai mian 21 year ke hoon meri shadi huwiay 1 saal huwa hai koi child nahe hai because meray husband shadi k baad 3 month sath rahay thay pher wo jop k silsiliay mian saudia arrabia chaliay giay thay.meri problem yiay hai k muj mian blood ke bht ziada kammi hai manna docter ko check karwaiyaah tou unhonnae blood test kiya jismian mera blood 6.6 ayya hai unhonnae mjy dawaiyaaah di hai jomian khari hoon inprovment mb lugri hai per kaffi weakness rehti hai aap mjy batiay k mian apna blood kessae banao fastly.

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on September 10, 2011
at 06:23 PM

Well, you may be able to increase the Hgb content of your RBCs by increasing your vitamin C intake, which will increase your absorption of iron: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2507689

If you have a paleo diet, your phytate intake is greatly reduced. Just eat more red meat, liver and high vitamin C fruits like strawberries, kiwi, papaya etc.

Additionally, the major antioxidant in erythrocytes is vitamin E, which you can get in a stable form from eating a lot of boiled pastured egg yolks.

Medium avatar

(39821)

on September 10, 2011
at 11:18 PM

I think it's a much better idea to avoid dairy fat and specifically eat more egg yolks. Your body creates huge amounts of cholesterol (around 800mg on a low dietary cholesterol day) anyway, so I advocate eating plenty of it and letting your body decide how much to sythesize or excrete.

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on September 10, 2011
at 07:48 PM

The chickens are not pastured in winter here. And i am wondering if i should limit eggs due to my too high TC. Hopefully its just the butter that does it. Since even the best organic butter isnt so great in finland, cows usually are pastured less than six months a year anyway.

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on September 11, 2011
at 08:41 AM

I would need like 500 grams of local eggs daily.

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on September 11, 2011
at 04:35 AM

I hope not to have to give out on eggs, they are so convient source of many nutrients. I need to reduce the butter, i just started cooking with coconut oil, and will be ordering more duck fat.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 11, 2011
at 08:49 PM

Eat pastured butter. Kerrygold Irish butter is excellent. Great source of Vitamin D, Vitamin K, and Vitamin A. I think E as well. Butter is not bad for you? Neither are eggs! Who told you those lies? ;)

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on September 10, 2011
at 06:59 PM

Many paleos must be low on Vitamin E, its not so plentiful in most common paleo foodstuf. And i wonder if the RDA is even optimal. Might be better to have more. I bet i am low on Vitamin E and calcium.

Medium avatar

(39821)

on September 10, 2011
at 07:32 PM

I eat 4 pastured, hard-boiled egg yolks per day, which are a great source of vitamin E: http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/05/pastured-eggs.html

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

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on September 11, 2011
at 08:37 AM

Perhaps our eggs are lower in nutrition but i calculated and it seems 3 eggs isnt enough to ensure good amount of vitamin E.

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on February 28, 2013
at 07:47 PM

live for 120 days

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on September 10, 2011
at 11:00 PM

Good nutrition advice here, I would also add rest. It does wonders.

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on September 10, 2011
at 06:35 PM

I don't have any links to studies handy on this, so maybe someone can chime in but I believe pregnenolone supplementation can help with this. I'll see what I can dig up.

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