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Do I need to raise my HDL? How should I do it? fish pills? (Bloodwork/Lipid panel questions)

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 02, 2011 at 10:11 PM

'm a 26 year old breastfeeding Female (only including the breastfeedin thing because I have a question about the Vitamin D levels)

  • Glucose: 65
  • Bun: 12
  • Creatinine: 0.6
  • Bun/Creatinine ratio: 20.0
  • Calcium: 9.8
  • Sodium 140
  • Potassium: 4.2
  • Chloride: 101
  • Carbon Dioxide: 21

    • Cholesterol: 203
  • Triglyceride: 75
  • Chol/HDL : 4.8
  • LDL : 146
  • HDL : 42

    • Vitamin B12: 1405
  • Ferritin: 50
  • Cardio CRP: 11.5
  • eGFR: >60
  • TSH: 2.03
  • Magnesium RBC: 6.3
  • Vitamin D: 65.1

OK so my question is: My doc is fine with any LDL lower than 160 (he's WAPF/paleo friendly) but he thinks my HDL is too low. Wants me to eat a lot more fish. He is fairly confident my HDL will go up as I continue to lose weight. I eat sardines a couple times a week. I know there's some controversy on these boards about HDL levels. What say you?

Also, I know Vitamin D3 at 65.1 is healthy but Doctor says he wants me to stop taking D3 supplements now and just stick to the amount I get from my Cod liver oil and the sunshine since it's summer now. Given that I'm breastfeeding should I cut out the D3? I was taking 5000iu. Should I instead just lower it?

Is there anything else on my panel that anyone has to comment on? I've been paleo for about 4-5 months now and was WAPF for about 2 months before that.

Another interesting find. We did an allergy test and I have a moderate allergy to Egg whites and Cow milk. Ughhh so I guess everyone telling me to cut the dairy was right. I'm really mad about the egg white, though. I eat eggs every single day. Hopefully it'll help with some of my skin issues I've been having when I cut them. sigh...

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 03, 2011
at 09:00 PM

Also, could the C-section I had have caused the leaky gut? I was put on 8 rounds of penicillin during the failed induction and 3 rounds of some other wider spectrum antibiotic after the surgery because of a fever. I found after I had my baby I had horrible heartburn. That's actually what led me from WAPF to Paleo.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 03, 2011
at 07:48 PM

Google searches for "Fat burning" supplements only brings up spammy garbage. Do you have a site you would recommend?

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 03, 2011
at 07:22 PM

Specific amounts of each of those I should be taking? Is there a list somewhere online? Are all of them safe for breastfeeding? I'm currently taking Cod liver oil, Prenatal multi, 5000 d-3, 100mcg MK-7 K-2, 1200 Calcium citrate, 1000 Magnesium malate, B complex.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on June 03, 2011
at 12:28 PM

Carnitine coenQ10 Mg calcium aep vit d3 two b complex a day and three grams of c and many others.....I'd supplement you to help you burn fat fast......NAC curcumin,lots of green tea, rhodiola......alpha lipoid acid feverfew......all stuff I invoke when crp is over six

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on June 03, 2011
at 12:25 PM

Great point jc.....

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on June 03, 2011
at 12:24 PM

Sure it could......but obesity alone in my experience won't put you in that range at your age. Keep doing what your doing but you need to go on very high dose fish oil and you need to up the coconut oil use big time. I bet you have major leaky gut issue with that lab value. Wondering out loud about your cortisol level

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 03, 2011
at 02:11 AM

Couldn't it just be because I'm still fat? I mean, I still have 70 pounds to lose from my original almost 100. Excess weight alone can cause quite a bit of inflammation can't it?

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on June 03, 2011
at 12:14 AM

Coming from an old fart man, we remember. You can get a kit at the drug store that tests. But any inflammation anywhere in the body will most likely show up in the C reactive protein.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 03, 2011
at 12:09 AM

UTI?? how weird. I haven't had a UTI since I was 5 years old. haha I'll try the cranberry. I'm sure the antioxidants will help inflammation anyway.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on June 02, 2011
at 11:46 PM

Ashley, it ain't the meat. It could be a low level UTI undiagnosed. It it is, fresh or frozen cranberries do well. Do not drink supermarket cranberry juice...too much sugar. Trader Joes has a bottle of cranberry juice only with nothing added. It does have pucker power.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 02, 2011
at 11:40 PM

OK. My doctor said he thought it was just because of all the red meat. I'll try that stuff. I've never heard of Coenzyme Q10. Is there a particular brand I should try?

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on June 02, 2011
at 11:34 PM

http://www.virginiahopkinstestkits.com/howtolowercrp.html I thought this was spot on...but look at all

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on June 02, 2011
at 11:33 PM

I thought this was spot on...but look at all. http://www.bing.com/search?q=crp+how+to+lower%3f&FORM=HPNTBG&PC=HPNTDF&MKT=en-us

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on June 02, 2011
at 11:31 PM

CRP is indication of inflammation in your body. This search on bing has links to many sites that talk about lowering CRP. Eating no sugar chocolate cacao nibs or powder can help. http://www.bing.com/search?q=crp+how+to+lower%3f&FORM=HPNTBG&PC=HPNTDF&MKT=en-us

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 02, 2011
at 11:12 PM

What should I tweek? I don't really know what I should do to lower the CRP.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 02, 2011
at 10:48 PM

no problems here. :-)

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 02, 2011
at 10:48 PM

It was blood test. I was thinking of doing a skin prick but it was quicker to just do blood test for now and do skin prick later if anything looked funky. I'm not really sure how to fix the CRP. I don't eat any sugar or vegetable oils.

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(5639)

on June 02, 2011
at 10:38 PM

sorry, my comment doesn't really jive with the rest of your question.

Medium avatar

(5639)

on June 02, 2011
at 10:32 PM

I think I have a mild egg white allergy too, they give me very rushed/loose digestive issues, especially when raw, which is a total bummer, because I used to pound raw eggs after the gym and wonder why the heck I had diarrhea!

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Ea9559203fa70016dbf22f8be0eb151b

on June 03, 2011
at 12:33 AM

Interesting chapter on how LDL gets (mis)calculated and is not measured. You will see here how it's possible that when someone who's HDL improves and Triglycerides drop will somehow magically "raise" their LDL http://www.drjamescarlson.com/content.aspx?idx=42

And some info on why eating more dietary cholesterol is not bad: http://www.drjamescarlson.com/content.aspx?idx=39

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on June 03, 2011
at 12:25 PM

Great point jc.....

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on June 02, 2011
at 11:08 PM

your cardiac CRP is off the charts high. Not good at all. That is a panic value in office. And your HDL is pretty low. Your vitamin D is not high. I shoot for 70-100 and in a breast feeding women it really can be higher because you will be passing a ton on to the child. I bet your level caves if you stop taking it. I think you need some tweeking for sure.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on June 03, 2011
at 12:28 PM

Carnitine coenQ10 Mg calcium aep vit d3 two b complex a day and three grams of c and many others.....I'd supplement you to help you burn fat fast......NAC curcumin,lots of green tea, rhodiola......alpha lipoid acid feverfew......all stuff I invoke when crp is over six

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on June 02, 2011
at 11:31 PM

CRP is indication of inflammation in your body. This search on bing has links to many sites that talk about lowering CRP. Eating no sugar chocolate cacao nibs or powder can help. http://www.bing.com/search?q=crp+how+to+lower%3f&FORM=HPNTBG&PC=HPNTDF&MKT=en-us

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 03, 2011
at 09:00 PM

Also, could the C-section I had have caused the leaky gut? I was put on 8 rounds of penicillin during the failed induction and 3 rounds of some other wider spectrum antibiotic after the surgery because of a fever. I found after I had my baby I had horrible heartburn. That's actually what led me from WAPF to Paleo.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on June 02, 2011
at 11:46 PM

Ashley, it ain't the meat. It could be a low level UTI undiagnosed. It it is, fresh or frozen cranberries do well. Do not drink supermarket cranberry juice...too much sugar. Trader Joes has a bottle of cranberry juice only with nothing added. It does have pucker power.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 03, 2011
at 02:11 AM

Couldn't it just be because I'm still fat? I mean, I still have 70 pounds to lose from my original almost 100. Excess weight alone can cause quite a bit of inflammation can't it?

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on June 02, 2011
at 11:34 PM

http://www.virginiahopkinstestkits.com/howtolowercrp.html I thought this was spot on...but look at all

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 02, 2011
at 11:12 PM

What should I tweek? I don't really know what I should do to lower the CRP.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 03, 2011
at 12:09 AM

UTI?? how weird. I haven't had a UTI since I was 5 years old. haha I'll try the cranberry. I'm sure the antioxidants will help inflammation anyway.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 02, 2011
at 11:40 PM

OK. My doctor said he thought it was just because of all the red meat. I'll try that stuff. I've never heard of Coenzyme Q10. Is there a particular brand I should try?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on June 03, 2011
at 12:24 PM

Sure it could......but obesity alone in my experience won't put you in that range at your age. Keep doing what your doing but you need to go on very high dose fish oil and you need to up the coconut oil use big time. I bet you have major leaky gut issue with that lab value. Wondering out loud about your cortisol level

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on June 02, 2011
at 11:33 PM

I thought this was spot on...but look at all. http://www.bing.com/search?q=crp+how+to+lower%3f&FORM=HPNTBG&PC=HPNTDF&MKT=en-us

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on June 03, 2011
at 12:14 AM

Coming from an old fart man, we remember. You can get a kit at the drug store that tests. But any inflammation anywhere in the body will most likely show up in the C reactive protein.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 03, 2011
at 07:48 PM

Google searches for "Fat burning" supplements only brings up spammy garbage. Do you have a site you would recommend?

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 03, 2011
at 07:22 PM

Specific amounts of each of those I should be taking? Is there a list somewhere online? Are all of them safe for breastfeeding? I'm currently taking Cod liver oil, Prenatal multi, 5000 d-3, 100mcg MK-7 K-2, 1200 Calcium citrate, 1000 Magnesium malate, B complex.

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32123f4f25bdf6a7b70c9c2a719386ed

(396)

on June 03, 2011
at 06:51 PM

Your TSH is a little on the high side. I would have further testing on your thyroid. Free T4, Free T3 , antibodies, and Reverse T3. Now getting a doctor to do this testing when your TSH is only 2.03 will be next to impossible but this is probably the cause of your inflamation. You might want to supplement selenium, idodine and zinc to see if they help your thyroid. Also remain grain free so as not to set of antibodies.

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on June 02, 2011
at 10:38 PM

Afaik, fish/fish oil doesn't raise HDL but it will bring down your TG.

What's going on with your CRP though?
http://www.questdiagnostics.com/hcp/topics/cardiocrp/cardiocrp.html

Seems worth keeping D levels around 50. I'd cut out the CLO and retest in 3 months. Be sure to have another source for the vitamin A you won't be getting in CLO (liver every week or two will do the trick).

Since you're cutting out eggs, be sure to up the seafood (selenium) and bone marrow (lecithin).

What kind of allergy test? Please say skinprick:)

Katherine

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 02, 2011
at 10:48 PM

It was blood test. I was thinking of doing a skin prick but it was quicker to just do blood test for now and do skin prick later if anything looked funky. I'm not really sure how to fix the CRP. I don't eat any sugar or vegetable oils.

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