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fast pulse and higher blood pressure

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 08, 2012 at 4:14 PM

i have been on the paleo diet just over a week now. while it seems to be helping my digestive and inflammation problems, my pulse rate hs gone way up--from about 65 beats per minute to 93-101 at rest, and my blood pressure has gone up from 125/70 to 155/97. is this a normal reaction to the diet? the fast pulse is uncomfortable.

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on August 16, 2012
at 03:27 PM

Check your thyroid. Hyperthyroidism can cause such symptoms.

5662d1262516ccbd70249e7aeaf58901

(681)

on May 24, 2012
at 06:10 AM

Betsy, can you give us an update? I'm curious to know how things turned out.

1398eff69b192c35de5e0dbaad59052a

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on May 10, 2012
at 04:07 AM

Salt actually doesn't add that much to blood pressure.

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on March 10, 2012
at 02:18 AM

Excess sugar can have the same effect as too much salt on blood pressure. The additional information on your diet is helpful.

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 10, 2012
at 02:02 AM

i will see if i can find some water kefir, thanks! betsy

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 10, 2012
at 01:59 AM

i've only been on it 11 days, so definitely could still be adjusting. yes, fewer than 50g/cho/d. thank you for your help. i will see if i can find magnesium malate here in germany, and will check out the link. :)

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 10, 2012
at 01:51 AM

thanks, nance. there's some very helpful advice in there!

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 10, 2012
at 01:49 AM

too much caffeine?? i don't drink ANY, EVER. I'M NOT HAVING TOO MUCH SUGAR. majority of others feel i need more carbs, not less. i doubt one third of a can of tuna constitutted too much salt, and i haven't eaten the bacon or sausage yet. i don't knoe about potasium and magnesium intake. i do eat a lot of brocolli, kale, and spinach. thanks for trying hough.

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on March 09, 2012
at 05:51 PM

Betsy, thanks for the answers. :) Have you been at fewer than 50g/CHO/d long enough to be adapted to it, or could you still be adjusting? In case you are eating something which your body is reacting to, here is a link to information on the FailSafe diet: http://failsafediet.wordpress.com/ I wish I knew something more to offer you. Hope you can solve this soon. :) I take magnesium malate, which I find nice. In case you are having a reaction to something you are eating, here is a link to information about the FailSafe diet, just in case it could help pinpoint the culprit:

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 09, 2012
at 01:43 AM

so, i'll be adding that back as soon as i can and with it, lots of salads with romaine lettuce and spinach. love asparagus, too. i am probably not drinking enough water, have had a very dry mouth since the changeover. i will try the hibiscus tea if i can find it here. i usually drink green tea, winter spice, cammomile, orange spice and peppermint, depending on the time of day.

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 09, 2012
at 01:39 AM

nothing canned or processed. i live in the country in central germany, and all foods are fresh from the local oeganic farmer's market held here every saturday. as i mentioned above, zero exercise. i am currently handicapped and bedridden. someone in z-health is going to help me with stretching exercises soon, i hope. vegetables include turnips, green onions, mushrooms, broccoli, kale, and spinach. i don't use any sugar except that which is naturally in fruit, but dont eat bananas. i'm just in my first 30 days, so no salad dressings yet, i prefer plain yogurt.

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 09, 2012
at 01:30 AM

jayjay: i've been checking it 3x per day for 3 days now. what's really strange is that i'm still on my blood pressure meds and getting these results.

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on March 09, 2012
at 12:43 AM

How many times did you check it? Retake it at least three times over the course of a couple days...or even week.

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 08, 2012
at 11:00 PM

i haven't been very hungry in the daytime for the past several days, but i make myself eat a little bit of brunch--today was celery stalks and chopped liver.

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 08, 2012
at 10:57 PM

before sleeping, i usually have a little more of whatever diiner was, plus 1 more small serving of fruit.

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 08, 2012
at 10:56 PM

i'm definitely not in the "fit" category. i am currently disabled and bedridden. i am eating, for example: brunch (i stay up late as i have the most energy then): leftovers from previous night's dinner, mostly protein, or tuna or chicken salad with paleo mayo. except on weekends when i have eggs and gluten and sugar free sausage or bacon. i am having fruit as a snack (whole, no bananas, mostlly blueberries and mandarins). for dinner i'm having a meal from chris kressen's meal plan generator, like roasted dduck with turnips, or slow cooker chicken with turnips. i have a few cashews.

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 08, 2012
at 10:43 PM

i'm on a low carb (less than 50), autoimmune paleo (chris Kresser). yes, my carb rate is WAY down from where it used to be. formerly eating very unhealthy diet with mostly carbs, lots from sugar. no caffeine. i have gallstones, so i can't drink it.

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on March 08, 2012
at 07:21 PM

Betsy, did you lower your carbohydrate intake a good bit? Are you drinking much caffeine? :)

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on March 08, 2012
at 05:03 PM

When I was VLC for a few months my heart rate got where it stayed up around 120. The family doctor sent me to a cardiologist for a stress test and a day monitor, but everything looked fine except for the fast heart. After I added more carbs back in, it went back to normal.

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on March 08, 2012
at 04:20 PM

Please give us a typical day's menu. Are you low-carb? Sounds like you might need to up your magnesium and potassium.

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Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

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on July 05, 2012
at 07:33 AM

Very low carb can induce adrenaline responses, especially initially. You might try adding a cup or so of berries a day, or the odd parsnip or kumura. I do a cup of berries per day, with a little bit of glucose sprinkled on top, to keep my body glucose levels from getting too low.

Very low carb also drains your fluids and electrolytes a bit more, which can also effect the heart rate. Try adding a bit more salt to your food, drinking a little more water, and the cup or so of berries or 1-2 root veg suggestion. (glucose is also required for good hydration).

Magnesium and potassium are also supplements that can be useful re: electrolytes on very low carb.

You could also see a doctor about it, and perhaps get your electrolytes checked? (I see you did see a doctor, but an electrolyte check might have been a good idea)

Very low carb is duiretic basically.

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on July 19, 2012
at 10:44 AM

Eat beetroot, or drink beetroot juice. It contains Nitrate which will lower your blood pressure. It works pretty much straight away and you don't need to drink much.

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on March 09, 2012
at 06:00 AM

I would say:

1) Too much sodium (Sounds like not the case)
2) Not enough potasium.
3) Not enough Magnesium
4) Too much Sugar.
5) Too much caffeine.

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on March 10, 2012
at 02:18 AM

Excess sugar can have the same effect as too much salt on blood pressure. The additional information on your diet is helpful.

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 10, 2012
at 01:49 AM

too much caffeine?? i don't drink ANY, EVER. I'M NOT HAVING TOO MUCH SUGAR. majority of others feel i need more carbs, not less. i doubt one third of a can of tuna constitutted too much salt, and i haven't eaten the bacon or sausage yet. i don't knoe about potasium and magnesium intake. i do eat a lot of brocolli, kale, and spinach. thanks for trying hough.

1398eff69b192c35de5e0dbaad59052a

(2024)

on May 10, 2012
at 04:07 AM

Salt actually doesn't add that much to blood pressure.

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Ef69ca2d5434e470d44f7fa6b4cc1965

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on March 09, 2012
at 01:25 AM

My first question is about your sodium intake, and that would mean hidden sodium sources, ie: canned meats or processed lunch meats? My second question is about the amount you exercise? My third question is about the amount and frequency and variety of your veggie intake? My fourth question is have you eliminated sources of sugar?

You can still exercise though bedridden, it looks like you are eating canned tuna which is very high in sodium as is bacon and sausage. Try eating baked/roasted chicken and baked/roasted beef. All of that fruit and cashews equals way too much sugar! In short, it looks like you are using turnips as your primary source of vegetables.

You should be eating all manner of vegetables using every color that they come in. Your veggie intake should increase substantially and your sodium and sodium rich foods should decrease substantially. Try some meal salads with meats, broccoli, asparagus, sea food. Make your own salad dressings with good oils.

You should be drinking copious amounts of water to flush some of that sodium out of your system and have some hibiscus tea a couple times a day, which helps decrease blood pressure.

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 09, 2012
at 01:43 AM

so, i'll be adding that back as soon as i can and with it, lots of salads with romaine lettuce and spinach. love asparagus, too. i am probably not drinking enough water, have had a very dry mouth since the changeover. i will try the hibiscus tea if i can find it here. i usually drink green tea, winter spice, cammomile, orange spice and peppermint, depending on the time of day.

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 09, 2012
at 01:39 AM

nothing canned or processed. i live in the country in central germany, and all foods are fresh from the local oeganic farmer's market held here every saturday. as i mentioned above, zero exercise. i am currently handicapped and bedridden. someone in z-health is going to help me with stretching exercises soon, i hope. vegetables include turnips, green onions, mushrooms, broccoli, kale, and spinach. i don't use any sugar except that which is naturally in fruit, but dont eat bananas. i'm just in my first 30 days, so no salad dressings yet, i prefer plain yogurt.

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on March 08, 2012
at 08:00 PM

High cortisol levels can cause elevated vitals. Are you trying IF with your new paleo diet? While you are adapting, don't skip breakfast and don't overeat. Give us a day's meals sample and maybe there is something else to tweak.

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 08, 2012
at 11:00 PM

i haven't been very hungry in the daytime for the past several days, but i make myself eat a little bit of brunch--today was celery stalks and chopped liver.

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 08, 2012
at 10:57 PM

before sleeping, i usually have a little more of whatever diiner was, plus 1 more small serving of fruit.

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 08, 2012
at 10:56 PM

i'm definitely not in the "fit" category. i am currently disabled and bedridden. i am eating, for example: brunch (i stay up late as i have the most energy then): leftovers from previous night's dinner, mostly protein, or tuna or chicken salad with paleo mayo. except on weekends when i have eggs and gluten and sugar free sausage or bacon. i am having fruit as a snack (whole, no bananas, mostlly blueberries and mandarins). for dinner i'm having a meal from chris kressen's meal plan generator, like roasted dduck with turnips, or slow cooker chicken with turnips. i have a few cashews.

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on March 08, 2012
at 05:45 PM

My first thought is anxiety. You're making a major change in lifestyle, avoiding some things you probably like and eating foods that require more preparation, etc. I know it can affect blood pressure and heart rate because I have "white coat" syndrome--my vitals are fine at home but I do a great impression of hypertension at the doctor's office.

I also agree with paleo 2.0 that changing your ratio of carbs to total food could, at least temporarily affect pulse. In my case, grains were very sedating and my pulse rate went up at first. When I started drinking water kefir (a probiotic) I noticed my blood pressure stayed the same but my resting pulse dropped significantly and has remained at the quieter level.

The lowest blood pressures and pulse rates are seen in the very fit, so if this is a concern for you make sure you have a healthy activity level.

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 10, 2012
at 02:02 AM

i will see if i can find some water kefir, thanks! betsy

421909b535a4c3971163119896a09c8f

on March 10, 2012
at 01:51 AM

thanks, nance. there's some very helpful advice in there!

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