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Is Animal science further advanced then human science in some aspects?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created February 18, 2013 at 8:54 PM

I've read stories about the advancements of vet's compared to human research.

And hey let's look at this example: "In the case of ruminants, the gas (wind) expelled is actually methane produced as a byproduct of the animal's digestive process.This methane is produced exclusively by a narrow cohert of methanogenic archaea produce this effect" they claim the cuase can be: "One reason that domesticated cows belch so much is because they are often fed foods that their digestive systems do not process, such as corn and soy." and it states from methane producing microorganisms

Yet for the pathophysiology for humans is "drinking carbonated drinks or food allergy, gallbladder problems, acid reflux disease, H. pylori, and gastritis."

Hmm... What about indigestion from foods humans can't process like in cows or from methane producing bacteria?

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on May 16, 2013
at 04:25 PM

Yes but we're not always making optimal choices raydawg. Cattle are selected using an entirely different plan, vetted with $$$ science.

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on May 14, 2013
at 03:29 PM

Not true. We fall in love with those who we judge most fit to mate with - what you find fit to mate with and what I, or someone else does, will vary. We "know" what's fit at the reptilian brain level, not at the conscious level, that's why it's such voodoo woo.

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on February 18, 2013
at 11:57 PM

So far as I know they didn't have alfalfa and flaxseed in central Turkey. But they had the precursors of modern grain...hmm...

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on February 18, 2013
at 10:56 PM

I really don't think grass-fed cows expel more gas through either end.

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on February 18, 2013
at 10:56 PM

If they're fermentation vats, wouldn't they be converting more of the grass into SCFAs and thus producing less gas?

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on February 18, 2013
at 10:21 PM

Yes I'm aware of that, and was going to put that in my question description but didn't want this to spark into an ethical debate. The question is, is it just quackery or advancement? Me believing the latter

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on February 18, 2013
at 10:18 PM

Actually feeding them grass reduces belching, "Some farmers have reduced belching in their cows by feeding them alfalfa and flaxseed, which are closer to the grasses that they had eaten in the wild before they were domesticated"

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on February 18, 2013
at 09:22 PM

To answer the first question you asked, yes. It is easier to conduct experiments on animal subjects than it is human subjects. Not nearly as many hoops to jump through!

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on April 02, 2013
at 01:40 AM

I mean... by logic the only possible answer to such a vague question is 'yes'.

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on February 18, 2013
at 11:54 PM

To directly answer the question humans aren't as selective in their breeding...

We're sloppy. Love struck fools. Not as regimented as our cattle herds.

Shame on us.

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on May 14, 2013
at 03:29 PM

Not true. We fall in love with those who we judge most fit to mate with - what you find fit to mate with and what I, or someone else does, will vary. We "know" what's fit at the reptilian brain level, not at the conscious level, that's why it's such voodoo woo.

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on May 16, 2013
at 04:25 PM

Yes but we're not always making optimal choices raydawg. Cattle are selected using an entirely different plan, vetted with $$$ science.

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on February 18, 2013
at 09:05 PM

Cows belch because they are literally walking fermentation vats. Grass-fed cows burp more because grass needs more fermentation to yield energy.

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on February 18, 2013
at 10:56 PM

I really don't think grass-fed cows expel more gas through either end.

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on February 18, 2013
at 10:56 PM

If they're fermentation vats, wouldn't they be converting more of the grass into SCFAs and thus producing less gas?

A5127d60bca783084f191f38ffa357a6

(687)

on February 18, 2013
at 10:18 PM

Actually feeding them grass reduces belching, "Some farmers have reduced belching in their cows by feeding them alfalfa and flaxseed, which are closer to the grasses that they had eaten in the wild before they were domesticated"

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on February 18, 2013
at 11:57 PM

So far as I know they didn't have alfalfa and flaxseed in central Turkey. But they had the precursors of modern grain...hmm...

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