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Abdominal Swelling and elimination diet

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created December 25, 2010 at 8:52 PM

I probably have a distended abdomen, at least it looks like that to me. It looks ok as soon as I wake up but later on during the night it looks really ugly, as if I am pregnant (I am male, 24yrs). Also I keep getting problems with my stomach all the time. Was tested negative on celiac, but even before paleo, going gluten free was helpful, but didn't solve all problems. I am mostly fine for few weeks or months but once now and then my stomach gets really bad. Two weeks back I was having severe stomach pains which was due to constipation and I was eating rice but now I am back on paleo + lacto (lactaid milk) but again I am having some trouble for the past few days (slight diarrhea). I thought my sleep problem was fixed, but nowadays I keep waking up every two hours (and then fall back to sleep immediately). Also have very dry skin + lots of dandruff. Based on this suggestion, I feel I might have overgrowth of bacteria, especially because I keep having troubles with my stomach. So I am wondering whether I should start eliminating veggies? Does anybody have some guidelines? If I have to eliminate vegetables, can i include onions and sweet potatoes?

EDIT: I am still gluten-free and paleo (no rice). Just drink lactaid milk and eat cheese (recently). I would really like to use at least onions for my ground beef! Would that be fine? The first month of paleo was totally strict, no diary too, but the problem didn't go away.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

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on December 27, 2010
at 05:54 PM

Try the Specific Carbohydrate Diet. If it's bacterial overgrowth, there will be promising results almost immediately, though for full effect it has to be followed long-term. It is highly paleo-compatible. They have a legal/illegal foods list--very easy to implement.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on December 26, 2010
at 05:36 PM

ACV has been around a long time and it alleviated any gastrointestinal problems I had before paleo. Try it for a week and see if some of your problems diminish.

10034c23f65addc5735eb02a32448223

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on December 26, 2010
at 05:21 PM

Thanks, but I thought Apple Cider Vinegar is just a myth!

10034c23f65addc5735eb02a32448223

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on December 26, 2010
at 05:21 PM

I don't know man, it doesn't matter now. But yes, I might have additional allergies which is something I have to work on. But I have to disagree with your logic, if something quacks like a duck, it doesn't have to be a duck! ;)

10034c23f65addc5735eb02a32448223

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on December 26, 2010
at 02:48 AM

no i was diary free for the first month of paleo but the problem was still there. I don't take any probiotics. But I eat yogurt these days..

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on December 26, 2010
at 12:30 AM

have you ever excluded dairy as the cause? it's the main culprit for me (the proteins in milk, cheese, etc, not the lactose). also, do you take probiotics?

10034c23f65addc5735eb02a32448223

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on December 25, 2010
at 10:28 PM

oh I never stopped! I am still gluten free and paleo..

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on December 25, 2010
at 10:24 PM

if it was helpful, why did you stop?

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4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

on December 25, 2010
at 10:26 PM

Id look to do a full elimination diet. Meat and simple fats. if you do have a bacterial overgrowth, it wont cure itself quickly, and wont fix itself if you backslide...

Honestly, Id go talk to a Gastroenterologist. Find out exactly what it is.

If gluten elimination helped anything, then its clear that regardless of celiac status, you should treat it as if you were celiac. It will only be the better for you regardless of gut issues.

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531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

on December 25, 2010
at 10:48 PM

Curious to know which celiac test you took. Interpretation will vary on this. For example, I have a DLQ-HLA 8 allele. The presence of this allele does not guarantee presentation of "classic" celiac symptoms. Nonetheless, the ingestion of wheat causes me to have red welts all over my body. If it quacks like a duck, how can it not be a duck?

Most, or at least many, celiacs have additional allergies. For me, it's wheat and soy. Go over and read people at celiac.com, in their forum. They are all over the map with allergies. I've been working for about 3 years trying to figure out which foods agree with me. I'm very strict with elimination protocols. It is work, and frustrating at times, but also very rewarding when you hit upon new insights that lead to breakthroughs.

10034c23f65addc5735eb02a32448223

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on December 26, 2010
at 05:21 PM

I don't know man, it doesn't matter now. But yes, I might have additional allergies which is something I have to work on. But I have to disagree with your logic, if something quacks like a duck, it doesn't have to be a duck! ;)

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 27, 2010
at 05:54 PM

Try the Specific Carbohydrate Diet. If it's bacterial overgrowth, there will be promising results almost immediately, though for full effect it has to be followed long-term. It is highly paleo-compatible. They have a legal/illegal foods list--very easy to implement.

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on December 25, 2010
at 10:23 PM

I was having trouble feeling especially bloated and came across the low FODMAPs diet. I was eating Paleo at the time and realized that cabbage, avocados, and apples were causing me to feel really uncomfortable. I also have to take it easy on onions and nuts. Grains and diary will make my stomach turn but they taste so good going down that I cheat sometimes and deal with the consequences. But cabbage and apples are really never worth the pain. Since it only took maybe 3 days without these foods for me to tell a significant difference, it's really worth a try. Also, I eat a TON of veggies - raw, steamed, roasted, covered in bacon fat, etc. For me it's about finding the specific foods that cause a problem.

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on December 25, 2010
at 10:02 PM

I have similar issues.

Tests for Celiac are not accurate and there are a variety of gluten intolerances and levels and rarely does anyone manifest the same symptoms. Also various replacements for wheat are loaded with xanthan/guar/carob bean guns that may cause intestinal distress. For me it is within a few hours of consuming them. Any how you cut it though, there are no benefits from eating grains so far as I can see.

I do not do regular milk. I do use a ton of dairy. Heavy cream and cheese mostly and some yogurt and sour cream. I would drop the dairy before dropping veggies, at least for a couple weeks.

Another thing that causes me distress is fiber. Too much salad or tree nuts or beans or the like leave me with a sensation of having a brillo pad in my gut. A handful of pistaschios hurt, same with Mac nuts. Almonds are not so bad for me though, but I still can get the same effect of I eat too many. SProuts need to have the hulls separated out.

I would go just meat and low glycemic veggies for a bit and a serving or 3 of fruit a week for a while then start reintroducing things starting by fat content - More fat the better. Butter first, then cream, then cheese etc.

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on December 25, 2010
at 09:21 PM

have exactly the same issues after being exposed to dairy / wheat, or any-high carb for a long period: my solution: 3-4 days of zero carb, then re-introducing some 'benign' vegs like onions, carrots, cabbage, sea weeds ... and eating only once a day somewhere in the early evening

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06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on December 25, 2010
at 11:48 PM

Bloating...swelling, abdominal pain is normally due to to inadequate acids in the gut to digest the food eaten and/or inadequate gut flora called gut dysbiosis, a lack of functional gut flora. Incomplete disgestion leaves food to ferment and give off gas causing major pain and upset in the digestive track.

I would take Apple Cider Vinegar...a couple of tablespoons in 8 oz of water...twice or 3x per day to replenish the stomach acid.

Dr Art Ayers at http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com is convinced that most of modern man's ailments are associated with disfunctional gut flora.

http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/search?q=gut This search on his site for "gut" has lots of references. His blog is a wealth of information. Look at the titles of his postings on the right of his blog.

He advocates eating inulin products...which are Jicama, jerusalem artichokes, artichokes, chicory, burdock root, pectin...the latter 3 available online. Inulin will assist the gut by replenishing the gut flora missing that is needed for complete digestion. I mix the pectin, burdock root and chicory with my Greek Yoghurt. No gut dysbiosis here.

10034c23f65addc5735eb02a32448223

(361)

on December 26, 2010
at 05:21 PM

Thanks, but I thought Apple Cider Vinegar is just a myth!

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on December 26, 2010
at 05:36 PM

ACV has been around a long time and it alleviated any gastrointestinal problems I had before paleo. Try it for a week and see if some of your problems diminish.

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