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Bipolar, Lithium, Seeroquel.

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 02, 2013 at 8:10 AM

Diagnosed with bipolar 4 years ago. Gained 20 kg in that period of time (50 lbs?) I have literally been through hell, with loads of meds change and so on. I have now adopted the Paleo Lifestyle, and i love it! I have been on it for a month now, and i really feel an improvement on my daily moods, and that is really nice!

However although i am pretty overweight, female 34, 1.75 cm, 98,5 kg, i have only lost 2,5 kg.( in a month) It makes me a bit sad, because somehow i expected more.

Can the meds somehow slow the weight loss down? I eat paleo 1.0 and practise it quite strict.

My husband says though that i eat too many nuts and fruit. Around 75 gr almonds daily, somedays a handfull raisins, 3 fruits daily. No dairy products, no potatoes and so on. Am I really to stop the nuts and fruit? :) They help keeping me focused and not binge, and go nuts in cake and chocolate. I don??t exersize regularly, walk stairs everyday a lot, and since we don??t have a car, i use my bicycle.

So, anyone outthere with some wisdom?

Thanks a lot, Dorthe

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on March 04, 2013
at 07:18 AM

:) Thank you. Your reply made me happy. It is ofcourse more important the feeling of well being rather rapid weight loss, i guess i am like most - inpatient-, and will have to stay the course and accept that if it took 4 years to gain the weight, it will probably take a long time to get it off again.

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on March 04, 2013
at 07:14 AM

Thank you for your respons. I will go to the drugstore and buy magnesium at once! :)

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on March 04, 2013
at 07:12 AM

You are right, hate the idea of counting calories!

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on March 02, 2013
at 07:31 PM

I second the Magnesium. I have read many studies where Mg enabled the patients to lower their Li doses over time. (Here is one I just googled: http://momswellness.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/data-on-magnesium-and-mood-2/)

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on March 02, 2013
at 04:30 PM

Given your meds, that is FANTASTIC fat loss in a month! Lithium is known for weight gain.

Best to focus on nutrient-dense foods, rather than fat loss for the first 6 months. Eggs, seafood, liver, bone broth, red meat, etc... Hard cheese is good if you don't eat too much.(for K2)

Get your Vitamin D3 level checked. A good D3 level helps with fat loss. Sun/supplement to a blood level of 60-80 ng/ml. More info at www.vitamindcouncil.org.

Binges are often caused by nutrient deficiencies. Sounds like you are needing minerals, hence the attraction to nuts and dried fruit. Nuts are high in Magnesium, so taking a Magnesium chelate supplement will help with binges without the excessive calories. Dried fruits are basically like eating candy--stick to one piece of fresh fruit per day. Bananas are good for potassium, as are avocados. No need to eat more than 1/2 to one per day, though!

As you start feeling better, you may need a reduction in your meds, so work with your doc on that.

You may find this website helpful: http://evolutionarypsychiatry.blogspot.com/

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

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on March 02, 2013
at 07:31 PM

I second the Magnesium. I have read many studies where Mg enabled the patients to lower their Li doses over time. (Here is one I just googled: http://momswellness.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/data-on-magnesium-and-mood-2/)

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on March 04, 2013
at 07:14 AM

Thank you for your respons. I will go to the drugstore and buy magnesium at once! :)

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on April 30, 2013
at 01:32 AM

Those meds will definitely slow down weight loss. I have been off of all medication for over a year now with paleo, exercise, and supplements (of course under a care of a doctor). When I got off the meds, I was taking like 6 different meds a day and I had tried countless. If you are stable now and you think that getting off meds is an option, talk to your doctor about a withdrawal schedule. And keep in mind that withdrawal symptoms are awful! Sometimes worse than the symptoms they are preventing. Read Your Drug May Be Your Problem, Revised Edition: How and Why to Stop Taking Psychiatric Medications by M.D. Peter Breggin and David Cohen. My current doctor suggested this supplement to me: http://www.truehope.com/new/ What I am doing is working for me, so I am not looking to change and try this, but it looks as though it could be useful.

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on March 02, 2013
at 04:50 PM

I agree that that's a great amount of weight loss for a month. You're dealing with issues beyond just extra weight, so I think right now you should really focus on the quality of your diet (lots of nutrient-dense foods and avoidance of toxic foods e.g. wheat). Improving your mood and overall well-being is so much more important than rapid weight loss. Cutting nuts and fruit may accelerate weight loss, but I don't think it's worth it yet. That can be a later step once you're really good at eating paleo and feeling great mentally.

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on March 04, 2013
at 07:18 AM

:) Thank you. Your reply made me happy. It is ofcourse more important the feeling of well being rather rapid weight loss, i guess i am like most - inpatient-, and will have to stay the course and accept that if it took 4 years to gain the weight, it will probably take a long time to get it off again.

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on March 02, 2013
at 04:02 PM

For weight loss, calories matter. Nuts and fruits are generally pretty concentrated calorie sources. Cutting them may induce a deficit for weight loss.

Also, count your calories if you're trying to lose weight and not doing so. Paleo folks hate the idea of counting, but it works.

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on March 04, 2013
at 07:12 AM

You are right, hate the idea of counting calories!

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