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How to stop counting calories and overeating. I just dont have the "common sense"

Commented on March 11, 2014
Created March 10, 2014 at 7:36 PM

Hello,

i would appreciate your oppinion on this problem of mine:

I just can eat forever. I have a nasty metabolism, I can eat tons and TONS of food and be just a bit chubby, but not THAT fat. I am a woman 5 ft 7 and in the moment 148 pounds. I know, its not the perfect weight, but today I ate the following :

1) 400 g of cheese 45% fat lactose free ( i usually dont eat cheese, but today i have an indulgence, last time I ate on christmas). plus 150 g chicken breasts, tomatoes

2) 100 gr mixed raw nuts

3) some more 150 g cheese and 150 gr chicken, 500 gr tomatoes

I did 60 min. cardio.

I am trying the keto diet to eliminate my nasty hunger. Before that I ate 2-3 kg fruits, 300 gr meat and nuts around 200 gr a day and some salad and could ask for more. This is about 3000 calories a day on a regular basis.

I just dont have limits. And the worst thing is, I find calorie counting SO frustrating and this makes me eat more and more. I am a law student, extremely stressed. I mean permanent stress.

So this is my problem. Any ideas how to fix this sh**? I wasnt always so, but I remember alway eating a bit more than other girls. I eat as a man and stay 37-25-37, but find it too much for me. I want to be skinny. Like 120-125 pounds.

Please help me :(

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on March 11, 2014
at 01:22 PM

I agree, cardio exercise is the ultimate hunger trigger.

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on March 11, 2014
at 06:22 AM

that is great. I will follow it! Thank you so much!!

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on March 11, 2014
at 06:21 AM

Hey, thanks. You are absolutely right. I did a lot of weight training a year ago and had muscles which I eventually hated. I had lean legs, but they were not what I liked. I like skinny women. The new craze "strong is the new skinny" doesnt attract to me, I dont like bulky women. With a lot of cardio I managed to get rid of that abs and legs and I look better now with more bf % on the same weight, but I still have muscles, because I do a lot of exercise.

I know losing weight takes effort and time. But I want to do it. Isnt there a way that is painless somehow?

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on March 10, 2014
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Methinks you don't have a good handle on measures. You're not eating 4+ pounds of fruit and a pound plus of cheese in a sitting.

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at 08:04 PM

This was very informative and encouraging. Thank you a lot! :) Oh, I will try what you say. I am a bit desperate. Right now I would love someone to tell me "do exactly this and that and you will fix it", because I dont trust my signals no more. My whole days consist of : 8 am-20or 22 pm learning in the bibliothek. For 3 years. After that training. And thats it. So I think the stress could be a issue also.

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P.S. I dont have any thyroid conditions, just a bit of estrogen defitiency, but my doctor said it is all fine because of my age (21) and everything is functioning right. Blood test is perfect. The only thing that I struggle from is cold chills during PMS, but I take some natural supplements.

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on March 11, 2014
at 12:48 AM

According to your measurements, height, and weight, you are at a healthy/normal bmi. Getting down to 120 is close to too skinny. I'm not sure what your muscles are like, but 120 and strong would be a challenge if not impossible.

It sounds like you want eating/weight/body image issues to be easier. It also sounds like law school stress encourages you to pay a lot of attention to all of that/want to control it (speaking from personal experience here, maybe I'm wrong).

If working out more and eating more meat and veg/drinking more water is possible, try it. But spending tons of time planning and trying to lose weight could take a lot of time/energy away from finishing school. Which won't help your stress.

Have you tried yoga?

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on March 11, 2014
at 06:21 AM

Hey, thanks. You are absolutely right. I did a lot of weight training a year ago and had muscles which I eventually hated. I had lean legs, but they were not what I liked. I like skinny women. The new craze "strong is the new skinny" doesnt attract to me, I dont like bulky women. With a lot of cardio I managed to get rid of that abs and legs and I look better now with more bf % on the same weight, but I still have muscles, because I do a lot of exercise.

I know losing weight takes effort and time. But I want to do it. Isnt there a way that is painless somehow?

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on March 11, 2014
at 12:45 AM

I see that you are eating things that can trigger insulin responses AND you are doing a lot of cardio--which increases hunger. You seem to be fighting your own body! There's really no need to count calories, it just makes you obsessive about food. And when your nutritional needs are not being met by the calories you consume, your body either revvs up the hunger or slows the thyroid down to reserve the fat you're trying to get rid of.

Nutrient density is the key. Eat foods with moderate protein, plenty of natural fats, and keep the carbs in check. Have a menu plan for the week. Eat enough good food to keep you satisfied well into the next meal time. For example, eat 3 or more eggs in the morning, cooked in coconut oil or butter, with bacon (if you eat that) and coffee with more fat (coconut oil and coconut milk, for example). Choose a reasonable serving of protein with lunch, plenty of fat and veggies. The same for dinner. Organ meat is a lot of bang for the buck--very filling and nutritionally dense.

If you are hungry for a snack, choose nutrient dense foods with fat and protein--i.e. olives and some meat, prosciutto wrapped asparagus, etc. You sound like you're sensitive to something in dairy, so try not to have cheese or other dairy products.

Don't worry about calories. The theory here is that when you allow yourself foods of sufficient nutrient density so that your body is getting the micronutrients it needs, then you will have adequate satiety and not be hungry all the time. And eventually, you'll find you don't need so much food if the food you eat is good and filling.

Swap the cardio for some heavy resistance exercises once or twice a week. It doesn't have to be elaborate. Jonathan Bailor's eccentric exercise program which is described on his Smarter Science of Slim website would be great for you--20 minutes once or twice a week is all you need. Or Primal BluePrint's exercise program--free on the Mark's Daily Apple website (planks, squats, etc.). This will help your body be more insulin sensitive and build muscle instead of building your appetite.

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on March 11, 2014
at 12:27 AM

Okay, I'm female, 5 ft 5.5 inches tall, 32 and I've had two kids. I stay between 118 and 120 working out every other day. I vary my workouts HIIT, long walks, weights, biking, etc. I eat between 1200 and 1400 calories per day. I used to have the most ferocious appetite, but I have gotten it under control. Here's the thing:

1) Some things are just habit. Part of it is you are in the habit of eating so much and you just need to break it.

2) I eat only two meals a day so eat meal is satisfying. If you are eating proper meals, you will be able to learn to easily go 4-5 hours between, perhaps longer.

3) Before my meals I either have a huge glass of warm water or I have gelatin (grassfed, high quality like great lakes). That has been proven to reduce appetite.

4) Cut out the nuts/nut butters if you want to lose weight. They are high in calories and way too easy to overeat on. Likewise with the cheese. It tends to be junk anyway, even the good stuff.

5) Do a whole30 or at least use the whole30 template. If you do this, you don't need to count calories. It's super simple: half your plate veggies, half your plate animals, if the animals are lean add a healthy fat. Three times a day, no snacking in between. No counting calories and if you stick to it it works.

6) Finish meals with more water or tea. Big, giant glass.

7) When you become fat adapted it is much easier to go a long time without eating between meals. When I used to eat grains, and then even when I still was doing dairy I couldn't go more than a few hours without being faint, weak, grumpy and starving. Now I can eat one good paleo meal a day and not even care about my second meal, but I do have it anyway to nourish my body.

Here's what I had today:

6 am: gelatin/almond milk/matcha green tea, steak on a bed of spinach with olive oil and salt, sweet potato with almond butter and ghee on top and three chicken sausages for breakfast.

I barely even felt hungry again until 1 pm and even then I debated not even eating but because I'm working out today I decided to. I had two cans of salmon on top of the most enormous pile of spinach, olive oil and salt on top, two eggs, two egg whites and three kiwis.

I did 30 minutes of HIIT plus free weights and now I won't eat again until tomorrow morning at 6 am.

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on March 11, 2014
at 06:22 AM

that is great. I will follow it! Thank you so much!!

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on March 10, 2014
at 07:59 PM

Could you please give me some sample menu plan of what is appropriate for a woman that is about 120 pounds my height? Please

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on March 10, 2014
at 07:58 PM

Seriously calorie counting is tough for you but you are going to law school. What is more important, your health or being a lawyer struggling with weight issues for the rest of your life. Those that say you don't need to track what goes in your body are usually people who don't overeat like you do. I know this because I was a world class overeater. I could still pack away more food than I should but I've overcome it mostly with Paleo and intermittent fasting. 2 cups of coffee in the morning and then brunch after 11am. Usually no snacks, no eating after dinner and a balance of fats, protein & carbs that suits me. While the Gastronomer gave you good advice, it probably won't work for you as you don't sound like eating a bowl of sauerkraut is going to satisfy you.

Lose all cheese, most of the nuts and 100% of the cardio, switch to some easy weightlifting to start. The cardio is probably making you hungrier and you eat more cheese/nuts.

It is a problem that is fixable, you just have to put in the work as it isn't easy to get started, but once in the flow it actually becomes a simple routine to repeat daily.

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on March 11, 2014
at 01:22 PM

I agree, cardio exercise is the ultimate hunger trigger.

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on March 10, 2014
at 08:04 PM

This was very informative and encouraging. Thank you a lot! :) Oh, I will try what you say. I am a bit desperate. Right now I would love someone to tell me "do exactly this and that and you will fix it", because I dont trust my signals no more. My whole days consist of : 8 am-20or 22 pm learning in the bibliothek. For 3 years. After that training. And thats it. So I think the stress could be a issue also.

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on March 10, 2014
at 07:57 PM

Thanks a lot for the answer. If you give me one more pound of cheese I could eat it right now. Dont know what to do. 2 years ago when I ate bread I could easily eat 1 kg of bread in one day. And wasnt fatter, just a bit more water weight but always on the fit side. I am confused. VERY.

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on March 10, 2014
at 11:27 PM

Methinks you don't have a good handle on measures. You're not eating 4+ pounds of fruit and a pound plus of cheese in a sitting.

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on March 10, 2014
at 07:49 PM

You ate 1.2 pounds of cheese in one day?! Damn, you really like cheese. Keto works fine, but you might want to keep the protein lower than your usual intake or you'll be burning protein for energy instead of fat. Just out of curiosity, how did you manage to eat 4.4 to 6.6 pounds of fruit per day? Good grief that's a lot of fruit. Next time you get that hungry, just fill yourself up with some water or eat something like cabbage or sauerkraut (cabbage is basically pure fiber and will fill you up without giving you any substantial carbs or calories). Eat more fiber in general (from leafy veggies), that stuff fills you up. Put some olive oil on your food also, it helps with the hunger.

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