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Paleo with a feeding tube?

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Created March 23, 2011 at 7:59 AM

A friend is unable to eat solid foods. He can eat warm soft foods like pudding etc. In order to reduce his carb intake were gonna go shopping for: butter, heavy cream, coconut milk and oil, full fat yogurt, eggs.

Any suggestions for meats? Proteins?

Anyone know of a Paleo friendly source for feeding tube food? I looked at the label of what he was provided.. and it's a carb horror show.

Thanks,

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on March 23, 2011
at 01:42 PM

WOW! That's _GREAT_ BASS!

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on March 23, 2011
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You are a really good friend for trying to help your friend make better choices and for helping with the shopping, etc. He is lucky to have you!

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on March 23, 2011
at 02:07 PM

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on March 23, 2011
at 02:07 PM

Bone broths could be a way to get some nutritive elements not found in the industrial produced liquid foods. Finely ground pemmican mixed with water makes a decent soup of sorts. Liquid meats!

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on March 23, 2011
at 01:01 PM

Liverwurst would probably work and the good stuff would get in a decent dose of organ meats.

If you can find organic baby foods without added sugar, those might work also.

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on March 23, 2011
at 01:44 PM

Cottage cheese is a blendable option. Also, added whey protein may not be ideal as compared to a steak, but it sure beats carbage!

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on March 23, 2011
at 01:21 PM

Remember that food has inbuilt fibre for a reason. If you process your paleo friendly food and add water or fruit puree to help it go down the tube the fibre will still be there as opposed to feeding your friend up with soft mush that may not contain the fibre load. I suppose all things in balance and moderation but watch the GI levels as you would your own intake. I made a curry yesterday and it was pretty mushy because I left it on the stove too long but my baby loved it. Lately I have been eating Kangaroo meat because it is cheap (I live in Australia) and depending upon the cut it is a soft meat. I buy it fresh but it does come in frozen packs. I was just thinking perhaps your friend may enjoy smelling the food. If I was in that position and I was given a sun ripened blood plumb to sniff before it went down my tube, it would evoke memories of my first day of school and the old plumb tree at the side of our house and the rich juice that ran down my fingers. The smell was pure heaven. Just smelling evokes memories of the taste. I would be ever so grateful for the sensory stimulation if I was denied the taste on my tongue.

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on March 23, 2011
at 01:01 PM

It looks like he can take meat if it were blended smooth enough. Anything can be put into a food processor and turned into a smooth pat??.

Not to make light of the question, but I couldn't help but think of the Bassomatic:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/19046/saturday-night-live-bassomatic

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on March 23, 2011
at 01:42 PM

WOW! That's _GREAT_ BASS!

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on July 17, 2012
at 04:43 PM

For basic nutrition

  1. GAPS-based Bone broth soup (chicken feet offer the most collagen because they have the most joint tissue... but of course discard the feet after cooking them)
  2. pureed grass-fed organic liver for tons of vitamins, minerals
  3. pureed grass-fed organic beef heart for CoQ10
  4. Mussels/Oysters for Zinc and other vitamins/mineral
  5. Coconut/MCT oil for ketones and your main source of energy
  6. red palm oil for vitamin E
  7. citrus for vitamin C
  8. Spinach for magnesium
  9. brasil nuts for selenium
  10. kelp for iodine and other minerals

Anti-cancer foods The following foods also have anti-cancer properties according to Dr. David Servan-Schreiber author of Anti-Cancer. He not only lived but thrived over 20 years with a particularly bad form of brain cancer.

  1. Generous amounts of anti-inflamatory anti-cancerous turmeric with a 5% ratio of black pepper, because black pepper increases turmerics curcumin intestinal absorbtion rate by 1,000 fold.
  2. Matcha green tea which has 307x more EGCG than other green teas
  3. Oyster mushroom shiitake
  4. Cherries- because they contain Glucaric acid anthocyanin
  5. rosemary for its Turpine fatty acids
  6. cherries for their Glucaric acid anthosionodine
  7. rosemary for Turpine fatty acids
  8. And last but certainly not least is ellagic acid. Ellagic acid is found in fruits including blackberries, cranberries, pecans, pomegranates, raspberries, strawberries, walnuts, wolfberry and grapes.

I would weigh and enter all the foods into the recipie creator at www.nutritiondata.com and see what we are missing and supplement with foods/supplements for the rest. I would imagine minerals like magnesium are harder to come by and you can ground up some supplements like chelated magnesium and add it to the mix. Also look into vitamin D levels to keep them 50-80 range. But of course connect with your doctors and medical professionals to manage and okay everything. It is very important that the mixture be very fluid and able to go through machinery and your loved ones body. So you may not be able to put in nuts etc.

This question is rather personal for me because I just came back from the hospital last night where my grandfather has brain cancer and is on a feeding tube after a seizure.

I spoke with his Registered Dietitian and they are giving him a canned feeding tube diet made by Abbott Laboratories. It is made of industrial seed oils, synthetic vitamins, MCT oil and sugar and sugar and more sugar. What struck me was how they are feeding him 200-250 grams of sugar for the day.

250 grams of sugar is 62.5 teaspoons of sugar. That breaks down to 1.3 cups of sugar per day.

I asked her, why does someone who is prediabetic need 250g of sugar carbs a day if he is not moving? She replied, "it's ok, because we give him insulin shots."

IT'S OK BECAUSE WE GIVE HIM INSULIN?! Pure insanity. Stop giving a sleeping unconscious elderly man with brain cancer carbohydrate poisoning and you don't need to give him insulin. He has never taken insulin at home.

I asked her to look into a diabetic formula and she said their diabetic feeding tube formula is only 1-2% less sugar but has 5 grams of fiber. Insanity.

I hope this helps and feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Have you researched the Warburg Hypothesis/Effect on cancer tumerogenesis? That points to a low sugar/carb diet as one that can starve cancers for energy.

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