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Lean meats for fat loss

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 25, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Ok, so I'm confused at the moment. Been reading this http://blog.metaboliceffect.com/2012/04/11/10-healthiest-fat-loss-foods/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=10-healthiest-fat-loss-foods

These guys seem to know their shit but I don't get it. Everything I've read or learnt in the paleo world says you can lose body fat and get a six pack by eating protein fat and avoiding carbs. Right I get it. So I'm eating low carb 50-100 a day. Dropped cals. 3 strength sessions a week. Walking. Couple of very quick hiit sessions. Never killing myself but having good sessions.

I'm eating lots of beef, eggs, salad, veg. Post whey shake no sweeteners in it. No sugars. No alcohol. Caffeine only before workout. 7-8hrs sleep a night. Loads of water. Fruit only post workout which is berries.

Guess what!!?! In 7 days no fat loss. I don't want to avoid fat as Ive read it's great for your testosterone but I'm thing of eating chicken like no tomorrow and scrapping the beef.

What gives guys? I can't help thinking you can't lose body fat with animal fat ( me at least) after all body builders only eat lean meat and they have some awesome 6 packs.

Hope someone can give me a good answer with a bit of science techie study reason would be cool beans.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on August 26, 2012
at 02:20 AM

And calories DO play a role. The thing to understand is that they are not the be all end all. You can still gain weight (even substantial muscle) on LC.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on August 26, 2012
at 02:18 AM

Meh, JK. Any dietary change takes some time to acclimate. Heck you coulda lost 2lbs of fat and gained 2lbs of water without knowing it. Weight really can fluctuate just with water changes. It takes time to learn a new way of eating and if its low carb it also takes time to adapt.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on August 26, 2012
at 02:12 AM

7 days...give up an go back to carb loading. This obviously doesnt work. Oh, and don't buy anymore fatty meat (your driving up the cost for the rest of us). Eat some tofurkey or something.

C2ecbc6f2948c232d60a639c50b7f4f9

(504)

on August 25, 2012
at 11:40 PM

works the same for me as well

95ef9c154b9b24a3f41a44ec0275fd33

on August 25, 2012
at 06:09 PM

What's your reference on this thought? Anything I can read on that. Ive thought about the same thing.

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on August 25, 2012
at 05:12 PM

Fat makes you fat when it contributes to a caloric surplus, carbs or not.

95ef9c154b9b24a3f41a44ec0275fd33

on August 25, 2012
at 01:38 PM

I know fat doesn't make you fat unless it's with a dumping of carbs at the same time. But didn't know if theres some mechanism for preventing belly fat burn.

95ef9c154b9b24a3f41a44ec0275fd33

on August 25, 2012
at 01:36 PM

I realise that but at 50grams a day carbs surely I could get away with a whey shake 5 mins of a workout. Anyway I'm going to try dropping them and have some meat. I know robb wolfs not a fan of the shakes for fat loss.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on August 25, 2012
at 01:24 PM

Eat lean meats to get lean? How novel. Who would have thought, right?

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on August 25, 2012
at 01:23 PM

duh. eat lean meats to get lean. Who would have thought, right?

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on August 25, 2012
at 01:18 PM

Yup, whey is insulogenic, just like carbs - that's why it works to build muscle - insulin is a signal that says draw in all the nutrients you can into muscle and fat cells. Ditto BCAAs.

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on August 25, 2012
at 12:47 PM

Same thing for me as well

95ef9c154b9b24a3f41a44ec0275fd33

on August 25, 2012
at 12:20 PM

Oh and I'm 26% bf 5'9" well built 15 stone approx 95 kg aiming to get to 10-15% bf

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on August 25, 2012
at 01:54 PM

7 days is not enough time to see significant fat loss. You need to give it at least 30 days. Drop the fruit. Fruit will hinder fat loss and is an inferior source of carbohydrate compared to starch. Try avoiding both for the first 30 days and stick with green veggies. Then add starch back in before the fruit. Also remember to bump up that fat! Low fat and low carb will result in a crash. Coconut oil helped me drop weight quickly and is great for energy. Don't worry about lean meats in the beginning (or at all for that matter). Just stick with high quality meats.

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on August 25, 2012
at 12:27 PM

I increased carbs and lowered fats and lost more fat, increased lifts and train harder.

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on August 25, 2012
at 12:47 PM

Same thing for me as well

C2ecbc6f2948c232d60a639c50b7f4f9

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on August 25, 2012
at 11:40 PM

works the same for me as well

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on August 25, 2012
at 02:16 PM

You have to ensure that your diet is 100% dialed in. NO processed carbs, very low fruit. I know it seems so counter-intuitive, but if your diet is right, i.e., you've become "fat-adapted" as many gurus call it, you can burn your stored body fat as a fuel source, burn dietary fat for your energy needs, and use dietary protein for its actual purpose, to rebuild and repair your body.

You don't have to avoid carbs on Paleo, there is a difference between Paleo, low carb, and ketogenic diets. But make sure that you're limiting fruit intake if your goal is to lose fat, up your dietary fat (I routinely get 60-65% of my calories from fat) and cut the processed, post workout shakes (they are all garbage, regardless of what anyone tells you); use FOOD for post workout meals.

Hope this helps. Let us know how things go for you.

http://www.jbprimal.com/blogs/news/6441364-is-exercise-really-necessary-to-lose-fat

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on August 25, 2012
at 01:11 PM

I didn't start dropping pounds until I dropped the post-workout protein powder. Resist using it as a 'reward' for your low intensity workouts, let your body keep burning fat and feel it. That's a reward, it feels pretty cool. If you're feeding yourself post-workout, and the majority of your workouts aren't high intensity, you're training your body to store (fat) rather than burn. I suspect raw/un-processed foods are broken more efficiently into the aminos your body needs, and your metabolism packs processed protein powder right into fat stores. A piece of fruit full of live aminos may be better than protein and fat after a walk, enough to resupply your brain for the drive home.

95ef9c154b9b24a3f41a44ec0275fd33

on August 25, 2012
at 01:36 PM

I realise that but at 50grams a day carbs surely I could get away with a whey shake 5 mins of a workout. Anyway I'm going to try dropping them and have some meat. I know robb wolfs not a fan of the shakes for fat loss.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on August 25, 2012
at 01:18 PM

Yup, whey is insulogenic, just like carbs - that's why it works to build muscle - insulin is a signal that says draw in all the nutrients you can into muscle and fat cells. Ditto BCAAs.

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95ef9c154b9b24a3f41a44ec0275fd33

on August 25, 2012
at 06:21 PM

http://blog.metaboliceffect.com/2012/01 ... s-eat-eat/

Have you seen this aswell. I'm guessing that's why they recommend lean meat. There saying fat is the best option but still creates a little fat storage. I'm going have to read into this interesting mechanism. I need answers. lol

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on August 25, 2012
at 02:09 PM

On strength days up the carbs and lower the fat,the rest of the time lots of fat and vlc.This combined with intermittent fasting will give you great results.Check out lean gains

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