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Has anyone experienced intestinal distress from beef?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 14, 2012 at 1:12 AM

Background: This is a hack for a family member who just started paleo. She's been doing this a week, has lost 6 pounds, and is generally feeling pretty good. I've been "monitoring" her diet and from what I can tell she is complying with everything. Her diet before this was nutritionally abysmal. I imagine her intestinal flora is a vacant wasteland.

Question: For the last three days, she has had an immediate and loose bowel movement within 30 minutes of eating beef that she says she barely is able to control. Only beef, no other protein source. She is getting adequate, but not excessive, fat. No history of this reaction before to beef. This has happened both at restaurants and at home (different beef sources, less of a chance of accidental contamination). I am fairly certain this is just her body acclimating to the change in food and she will stabilize once she builds up some good gut bacteria, but I wanted to ask since it is strange that it only happens with beef.

What could this be? Recommendations? I want to have something to suggest to her so she doesn't get discouraged and return to SAD.

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on July 16, 2012
at 11:52 AM

I can tolerate some dairy, I do my own GAPS yogurt, lacto fermented sour cream, eat only hard cheeses occassionally (parmesan) some emmenthal and occassionally edam/gouda. I react to some of the softer younger cheeses.

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

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on July 16, 2012
at 11:50 AM

it might just be that she can't tolerate it in any amount any more or that she's eating much cleaner so its more obvious....just a guess!

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on July 14, 2012
at 02:34 PM

Dang. I had no idea. I thought beef was one of those universal things that nobody was allergic to. I guess I was thinking of lamb! So wild.

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at 02:33 PM

I was hoping you would answer! I remember someone saying they were allergic to beef. It is just so strange since she could eat it pre-paleo without any issues? I will definitely recommend she cuts it out, at least while she is going through the initial changes of starting this diet. Thank you.

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on July 14, 2012
at 12:54 PM

Same thing here and I can't handle dairy either. I guess its the bovine serum albumine present in beef and milk which causes trouble. Do you tolerate dairy products?

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nice! I just answered below as well! :)

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at 03:19 AM

Good suggestion about making it as tender as possible. Probably would make digestion easier since the protein would be broken down a little? She is cycling through other meats as well. I don't think she is big on lamb but I will try to push it.

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345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

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on July 14, 2012
at 12:43 PM

YES, I am allergic to beef and it causes immediately intestinal distress, and very uncontrollable dirrehea. It also causes my intestines to become inflated/swollen as well.....At the time I was very allergic to corn as well and so it was hard to figure it out, only through traditional type skin testing did it become clear (I swear I denied it was possible until I saw the skin tests in action), once I deleted beef and any cross contaiminate of beef and FINALLY got the imflamation down, things started to settle.

To this day, 8 years later, I still can't handle any beef, even beef juices in sauces cause an immediate reaction.

Not sure if this is the case, but if its immediate, its time to consider it as a possibility. Isolating food also helps, eating one thing only for 3 days (elimination and isolation that is)

My recommendation is to stay away from beef for a while, give her system a chance to settle. If it is a allergic reaction its only going to get worse. Chicken and fish will be more calming. Sometimes the system goes into defensive mood and 'seems' to react to everything, its just on high alert and becomes reactive to things coming into the body, that makes it worse, she won't be able to eat anything at that point.

Most important is to calm her system down for a few weeks, then consider small amounts for testing...

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on July 14, 2012
at 02:33 PM

I was hoping you would answer! I remember someone saying they were allergic to beef. It is just so strange since she could eat it pre-paleo without any issues? I will definitely recommend she cuts it out, at least while she is going through the initial changes of starting this diet. Thank you.

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

(2384)

on July 14, 2012
at 12:54 PM

Same thing here and I can't handle dairy either. I guess its the bovine serum albumine present in beef and milk which causes trouble. Do you tolerate dairy products?

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

(8767)

on July 16, 2012
at 11:50 AM

it might just be that she can't tolerate it in any amount any more or that she's eating much cleaner so its more obvious....just a guess!

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

(8767)

on July 16, 2012
at 11:52 AM

I can tolerate some dairy, I do my own GAPS yogurt, lacto fermented sour cream, eat only hard cheeses occassionally (parmesan) some emmenthal and occassionally edam/gouda. I react to some of the softer younger cheeses.

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on July 14, 2012
at 12:46 PM

There's thus new development of beef distress as a result of a bite from the Lone Star Tick. I wish I was kidding. Here's the link:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/allergic-meat-lone-star-tick-spreading-vegetarianism/t/story?id=16610228

Thankfully I never hike, may never again as I love beef too much.

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on July 14, 2012
at 12:41 PM

The answer by "Kelly" on this thread may be helpful.

http://paleohacks.com/questions/72852/eating-beef-stomach-aches#axzz20bGYIp3X

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

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on July 14, 2012
at 12:43 PM

nice! I just answered below as well! :)

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on July 14, 2012
at 01:35 AM

IDK, but what about substituting grassfed lamb?

I myself find beef in some forms, harder to digest. I try not to go overkill on it (only once or twice a week), because of that. I just eat a bit more lamb instead. That, if its stewed or roasted (roast is my favourite, with some mint), is very soft and easy to digest. Tasty as too, yum!

Either way, paleo isnt a mandate to eat loads of beef by law. Its about a variety of meats that eat less or if possible no grains.

Just sub grassfed lamb or even venison for the beef, include a little bit of free range chicken or pork (or even a few game meats) and some fatty fish. Choose meats around her problem with beef.

And if she does re-try beef, maybe make sure its as tender as humanly possible, like slow cooked, or stewed.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on July 14, 2012
at 03:19 AM

Good suggestion about making it as tender as possible. Probably would make digestion easier since the protein would be broken down a little? She is cycling through other meats as well. I don't think she is big on lamb but I will try to push it.

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on January 27, 2013
at 12:45 AM

Been paleo for a while w/lots of good fat. Always ate well anyway, even before and never had any issues. BUT, did a stint in Idaho where I ate bison and I have never before nor since been as miserable. Until now. Beef--even the good, grass fed, pastured groovy stuff makes me gassy, nauseous and miserable. Yes, you can be intolerant of beef and any good allergist will tell you it is among the more common allergens as meat goes. You can certainly be paleo without it. We are all unique individuals w/our own genetic oddities. There is plenty of good protein out there and you don't need to eat beef to eat well. Go fishing, raise chickens, get a deer :-).

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on July 14, 2012
at 01:14 PM

I think that a lot of people have intolerances to beef, I saw one study where 40% of people with asthma, and skin inflammation had a beef intolerance, it's not talked about much, especially in paleoland where the focus is on grains for example. Some meats, and for example eggs, are equally problematic as grains for some people.

Histamine is also a problem with beef, because it's aged, and histamine can cause pretty serious bowel problems, like rapid emptying, diarrhea etc.

I am one of those people intolerant to beef, and I get major problems from it, I usually eat lamb, or reindeer for red meat. And I have excellent tolerance for dairy which is kind of funny since my tolerance for beef is so bad.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on July 14, 2012
at 02:34 PM

Dang. I had no idea. I thought beef was one of those universal things that nobody was allergic to. I guess I was thinking of lamb! So wild.

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on July 14, 2012
at 03:36 AM

My guess? She's probably not fully fat adapted yet. It's all part of the regular "carb flu" experienced by most people who go paleo. Reprogramming your body to burn fat instead of sugar for a lot of people is a dirty process. It's something most have to just get through to enjoy a paleo lifestyle. Also- keep in mind the diet of the animal that is being consumed- the further you get into paleo the more sensitive you become towards animals that are fed grains, legumes, hormones and antiboitics. Hopefully that all helped. :)

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