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Beef-Centric People

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Created September 27, 2011 at 4:34 PM

I cannot find one culture of people who had a beef-centric diet... can anyone hack at this??

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on September 27, 2011
at 11:42 PM

The Maasai are pretty cattle-focused. I don't know that I would say "beef," necessarily, but certainly blood and milk. But of course, they're neither Paleolithic nor HG. But they are definitely a culture of people, lol. http://www.maasai-association.org/maasai.html

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on September 27, 2011
at 11:00 PM

and I'm sure scavengers like wolves, coyotes and vultures were happy they did

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on September 27, 2011
at 05:31 PM

Ah, ok, gotcha. Well there were the plains Indians with bison, but you are right that anybody who herds beef gets mostly their dairy because it is more economical. So probably not. I'm not too knowledgeable about that kind of stuff, I think someone might come along and talk about ancient types of beef that were hunted by early humans.

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on September 27, 2011
at 05:27 PM

And actually, if I could find a population that eats mostly, beef, what would that mean? That we should eat mostly beef even if they were healthy? No. And if they were unhealthy, then what would that mean? How much beef would we then be advised to eat? Less than "mostly beef", sure, but half a pound a day? Beef once a week? It would be impossible to say.

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on September 27, 2011
at 05:25 PM

I was just curious if there were ANY beef centric cultures...not the health of it lol. but, educational response per the usualy :)

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on September 27, 2011
at 05:15 PM

So what are you arguing? That we shouldn't eat beef, shouldn't live on beef, what exactly?

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on September 27, 2011
at 05:14 PM

That it might not be good to subsist on beef? Is anybody advocating eating mostly beef? You A varied diet would be better anyway, because while it's not better to get 20x your necessary zinc, it is important to get enough of all nutrients. Isn't that what most of us do?

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on September 27, 2011
at 05:12 PM

beef. The notion that the more nutrients the better is nonsense and demonstrably false. Also muscle meat is unique in that it has the most carnosine, carnitine, their precursors, alpha-lipoic acid and glutathione of any food, far more than fish. Each food has specific merit. Furthermore, you can't subsist on fish without harming your health with too much protein. Beef has the fat, it isn't like there is no fat on grass-fed beef, there is plenty on the inside. I can get grass-fed beef tallow for $1.50 a pound, that's how much extra fat they have. I'm not sure what you're arguing here, actually.

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on September 27, 2011
at 05:11 PM

It depends upon which ancestors you are talking about. Later homo erectus was quite the hunter, but homo habilis was not much of one. It was homo heidelbergensis who began to fish, of course none of this matters. It doesn't follow that because a certain food entered the human diet X number of years ago, that we must have Y amount of adaptation to it. Humans are very versatile. Also we don't need all of that zinc or iron or anything, really. It isn't like 40x more zinc is a good thing, too much of various minerals can cause Alzheimer's, you can get all of the zinc and iron you need from some b

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on September 27, 2011
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It depends upon which ancestors you are talking about. Later homo erectus was quite the hunter, but homo habilis was not much of one. It was homo heidlburgensis who began to fish, of course none of this matters. It doesn't follow that because a certain food entered the human diet X number of years ago, that we must have Y amount of adaptation to it. It depends on the environment what a certain population does. Herders have mostly milk because that is what herding animals gets you the most of. If you overhunt large mammals in an area then you'll have none of them at all, so it is smarter to...

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on September 27, 2011
at 04:40 PM

So here is the thing. In terms of those three nutrients Dr. Sears mentions: oysters have 10 times more zinc than beef. Clams have 40 times more B12 than beef. Sardines have more CoQ10 than beef liver. Basically, if you want to come close to the nutrients in fish, you have to eat just the heart and brain of a beef. Which is a big waste of 1,000 lbs of animal.

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on September 27, 2011
at 04:39 PM

TO ADD, i got curious after reading this : There is no particular reason to believe our ancestors, or paleo peoples in general, lived mainly off hooved animals. Fact is, a 4-foot-high hominid would have had a hard time bringing down large beasts on a regular basis. Oysters and mussels though ... they don't run very fast, and they're easy to chew. Small fish are easy to catch too. Most paleo peoples that have been studied don't live on a diet of mainly large ruminants; they eat fish, eggs, insects, lizards, rodents. Nomadic herders live mainly on milk. Eating large ruminants on a regular basis

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on September 27, 2011
at 04:48 PM

Well, a buffalo centric people where certainly happy to waste 1000 lbs of animal just for their favorite parts. Our values are such that we value using the whole animal; we are the ones disgusted at waste. The American Indian wasn't some environmentally friendly noble savage; they were perfectly willing to let all that muscle meat rot.

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at 11:00 PM

and I'm sure scavengers like wolves, coyotes and vultures were happy they did

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