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Are toxins stored in beef liver or in beef fat?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 29, 2010 at 3:56 PM

I have been making a pate from beef liver (grass fed) mushrooms and onion, and it is delicious! I thought I had bragging rights and was offering to share but my friends and family refuse to even try it because they believe that I am eating the toxins that are stored in the liver. I think they are stored in the fat. A Google search turns up lots of (bogus) ads for liver detox and I haven't been able to find what I am looking for. Can anyone help? Thanks! Wobur

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

I don't trust factory raised beef in general, so their liver isn't tempting to me in any case, but it could be more psychological than scientific. Good link, Cheryl, thanks!

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on July 09, 2012
at 03:19 PM

Livers don't filter toxins. They metabolize them. This means they break down the chemicals into other chemicals. Anything unused goes elsewhere for either storage or elimination. Not stored in the liver.

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on July 09, 2012
at 03:17 PM

Yum. I just cooked the biggest slab of pork liver ever and maybe pate is what I should do with the rest of it. Sounds really good.

E9cccfaee11043eaaeac04150a845e6e

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on November 30, 2010
at 02:42 PM

Those cultures aren't eating organs from mega farms!

E9cccfaee11043eaaeac04150a845e6e

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on November 30, 2010
at 02:40 PM

More good references. Thanks, erin.

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on November 30, 2010
at 02:40 PM

Thanks, Jay. Intersting reads.

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on November 30, 2010
at 02:38 PM

Alex, the 'recipe' is a compilation of all of the recipes I found on line. I fried one pound of trimmed and chopped beef liver in butter for about 3 mins. I added a lb of chopped, cooked mushrooms and a with a large onion and put it all in the food processor along with half a cube of GF butter. I added salt, pepper, and a little brandy to taste. I will add herbs or whatever strikes my fancy when as I defrost each 1/2 cup serving from the freezer. So far I just added chopped green onions, a touch more brandy and yumm!

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on November 30, 2010
at 08:12 AM

I will argue until blue in the face......i eat toxic livers then....do you? Bullshit! After the animal is dead IT IS NOT TOXIC to the consumer!

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on November 30, 2010
at 06:50 AM

When a mammals liver cannot metabolize the toxins, it WILL store them. You are correct under normal circumstances, but I am assuming that factory farmed cows are not under anything that's normal. The literature will say that the liver doesn't store toxins, read on and see under what cirumstances storage (or lack of metabolism) exists and that's when an organ is inflammed.

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on November 30, 2010
at 04:32 AM

Many cultures eat that same liver raw pulled straight from the fresh kill.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

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on November 30, 2010
at 04:31 AM

Yeah, me too, the recipe! That grassfed liver is kinda stringy.

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on November 29, 2010
at 10:57 PM

It says it but just cause a blogger says it doesn't make it so. That's why I tried to find what he was basing it on (other than entry-level anatomy intuition). I found some studies that suggest liver does have some more toxins than muscle meat but still at acceptable levels.

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on November 29, 2010
at 08:22 PM

Nice. Your first says it all: "While it is true that one of the liver’s role is to neutralize toxins (such as drugs, chemical agents and poisons), it does not store these toxins. Toxins the body cannot eliminate are likely to accumulate in the body’s fatty tissues and nervous systems. On the other hand, the liver is a is a storage organ for many important nutrients (vitamins A, D, E, K, B12 and folic acid, and minerals such as copper and iron)."

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on November 29, 2010
at 04:51 PM

Can you post the recipe?

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on November 29, 2010
at 04:37 PM

Agreed they don't store.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on November 29, 2010
at 04:35 PM

I don't think this is true. Liver removes toxins but doesn't store them. Do you have any references to back up your claims?

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on November 29, 2010
at 04:37 PM

I didn't see any references, but the author is generally pretty good. http://thehealthyskeptic.org/natures-most-potent-superfood

Ok, I did a little research for you on google scholar (the search engine to use to avoid all the nonsense). I found a few interesting studies, but didn't spend much time. He's what I found:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277511/

http://www.springerlink.com/content/r457kh30458765k5/

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1745-4573.1997.tb00626.x/abstract

E9cccfaee11043eaaeac04150a845e6e

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on November 30, 2010
at 02:40 PM

Thanks, Jay. Intersting reads.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on November 29, 2010
at 10:57 PM

It says it but just cause a blogger says it doesn't make it so. That's why I tried to find what he was basing it on (other than entry-level anatomy intuition). I found some studies that suggest liver does have some more toxins than muscle meat but still at acceptable levels.

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on November 29, 2010
at 08:22 PM

Nice. Your first says it all: "While it is true that one of the liver’s role is to neutralize toxins (such as drugs, chemical agents and poisons), it does not store these toxins. Toxins the body cannot eliminate are likely to accumulate in the body’s fatty tissues and nervous systems. On the other hand, the liver is a is a storage organ for many important nutrients (vitamins A, D, E, K, B12 and folic acid, and minerals such as copper and iron)."

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on December 08, 2010
at 11:11 PM

Pate, too delicious for trace toxins to matter, I think!

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on November 29, 2010
at 04:34 PM

E9cccfaee11043eaaeac04150a845e6e

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on November 30, 2010
at 02:40 PM

More good references. Thanks, erin.

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on December 08, 2010
at 10:53 PM

Sally Fallon reccommends soaking liver in vinegar for a bit. Check out Nourishing Traditions.

Cheers,

Liz

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on December 08, 2010
at 04:31 AM

Wouldn't most if not all of the toxic materials from the liver leave the body in fecal matter? If i remember anything from biology class it is that the toxins and waste in your body get expelled from your urine, - such as excess glucose - the nose through mucus, fecal matter and even through your skin. Also i do not personally believe that your body would store toxic materials instead of getting rid of them. If anything the amount of toxins in the liver of a dead animal at any one point should be minimal as to where your immune system should be able to handle it anyway. Not to mention that if the animal is in a fight or flight response, the digestive process stops and any toxins in the liver (by my own speculation) should still go through the chemical reactions that remove the toxins in the liver to another location making the liver have even less toxins. Considering this is the state that most animals go into when they are hunted, Liver in my opinion is a safe food.

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on November 29, 2010
at 04:36 PM

The toxins in animal liver will not hurt humans when they consume it. Many cultures eat/use the ENTIRE (heart,liver,feet,tongues,eyeballs) animal when it is killed. The organ meats are the finest(most nutrient dense) parts of any animal!

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on November 30, 2010
at 04:32 AM

Many cultures eat that same liver raw pulled straight from the fresh kill.

E9cccfaee11043eaaeac04150a845e6e

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on November 30, 2010
at 02:42 PM

Those cultures aren't eating organs from mega farms!

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on November 29, 2010
at 04:32 PM

If you were eating conventionally raised meat - a definite YES that there are toxins in the liver and fat. Organs are the "processing plants" of the body, so whatever the animal ate that wasn't "clean" gets processed through liver pancreas, brain, etc. and GETS CONCENTRATED.

The best you can do is either make your own from sources you trust to be clean, organic, and grass-fed (not just grass-finished) or imported from France (esp.) as their growing practices more closely align with the natural methods just mentioned.

2b8c327d1296a96ad64cdadc7dffa72d

on November 30, 2010
at 06:50 AM

When a mammals liver cannot metabolize the toxins, it WILL store them. You are correct under normal circumstances, but I am assuming that factory farmed cows are not under anything that's normal. The literature will say that the liver doesn't store toxins, read on and see under what cirumstances storage (or lack of metabolism) exists and that's when an organ is inflammed.

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on November 29, 2010
at 04:37 PM

Agreed they don't store.

E9cccfaee11043eaaeac04150a845e6e

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

I don't trust factory raised beef in general, so their liver isn't tempting to me in any case, but it could be more psychological than scientific. Good link, Cheryl, thanks!

1cbb6b2a813475d6c0b17fd5e898dc50

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on November 30, 2010
at 08:12 AM

I will argue until blue in the face......i eat toxic livers then....do you? Bullshit! After the animal is dead IT IS NOT TOXIC to the consumer!

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on November 29, 2010
at 04:35 PM

I don't think this is true. Liver removes toxins but doesn't store them. Do you have any references to back up your claims?

F9638b939a6f85d67f60065677193cad

(4266)

on July 09, 2012
at 03:19 PM

Livers don't filter toxins. They metabolize them. This means they break down the chemicals into other chemicals. Anything unused goes elsewhere for either storage or elimination. Not stored in the liver.

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on July 09, 2012
at 02:55 PM

Quit lying about this one tiny thing and tell the truth for once in your american lieing life. Lets get someone from the federal government to tell us what's going on. After all, if you can't trust the federal government, who can you trust? (right banksters)

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