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Are McDonalds Burgers cooked from frozen state, or thawed first?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created June 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM

I didn't have time to pack a lunch today, so I'll be getting some plain hamburgers (no bun) at McDonalds.

Just curious:

Are they thawed before cooking?

If so, any guess what that process might be? (like how long a thaw)?

Also, I'm thinking of fries or their vanilla ice cream.

What's a better choice?

(Sadly, I have an unrelated digestion issue which precludes me from getting a salad/fruit/veggies (unless blended), which of course would be a better choice).

Thanks, Mike

C0fcb48d7da4f76fac17318efd2cd6b8

(4069)

on June 15, 2012
at 06:11 PM

OK.............

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on June 15, 2012
at 04:44 PM

Lately, my go to meal on the road is: Find a grocery store (thank you GPS!), hit the salad bar. It may not be perfect, but it's working for me. All weekend travel softball tournaments just became way easier!

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on June 15, 2012
at 04:28 PM

I highly recommend getting a burger and just eating it without the bun--I do this on road trips with my family. Of all the fast food places Wendy's is the one that tastes most like meat without a bunch of spongey-strange texture to eat. If it is McDonalds then the Angus burger is the best with no bun.

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on June 15, 2012
at 04:26 PM

Honestly...their chicken salads are disgusting. The chicken tastes "wrong."

87b7d250ea30415ed4c1afd809f4053f

(968)

on June 15, 2012
at 01:52 PM

I believe the fries are sugar washed (I think that's the term) too to give that golden look.

7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

(3275)

on June 15, 2012
at 01:13 PM

@smackles: as to 'just chew it well', I've given up on that. In the last 20 years, I've been hospitalized 4 times with partial small bowel obstructions. If I eat 5 times/day X 365 day/year X 20 years, that's a failure rate of 0.01111% (pretty good). However, the whole hospital experience is pretty terrible when that happens: they fish a tube through your nose, down your throat, into your stomach to de-compress your gut. It's a 2 day affair. Pretty unpleasant.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on June 15, 2012
at 12:57 PM

McDonalds and most other fast food chains have stopped using transfats in their fryers years ago. A couple of fish places still use it - Long John Silvers & Arthur Treachers. The patties are zero carb 100% (grain fed/CAFO) beef. Sheesh - the misinformation that gets spread around here is appalling. No wonder we get called "PaleoQuacks".

A6e2b231f69366ce825476c5a6dcfff6

(1967)

on June 15, 2012
at 06:12 AM

The burgers are still cooked frozen. I'd stay away from the fries, crazy synthetic veggie oils. The ice cream is low-fat + sugar.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on June 15, 2012
at 03:15 AM

I used to think I had histamine intolerance too. Most people who think that just have massive gut permeability issues and need to correct nutritional and inflammatory problems. Sorry, but Mickey Ds ain't going to cut it for that.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on June 15, 2012
at 03:13 AM

yes, I eat from grocery stores all the time. Deli meat + cheese = the boss.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on June 15, 2012
at 03:13 AM

I also tolerate fries/ice cream better than veggies and fruit. It's a fiber issue that a lot of IBS/IBD folks have. That said, I wouldn't eat McDonalds unless there really were no other choices at all.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

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on June 15, 2012
at 03:05 AM

Arent the patties half carb (ie proccessed meat?). Id go for a premade beef jerky or a can of tuna, or some packaged smoked salmon if you want meat on the go..

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on June 15, 2012
at 12:31 AM

Good idea, but totally NOT answering the question....

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

(1646)

on June 14, 2012
at 11:58 PM

Hell, grabbing the beef jerky out of the vending machine would be healthier than Micky D's.

7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

(3275)

on June 14, 2012
at 10:32 PM

Thanks for mentioning Kerrygold. I just checked: (glad I use the gold salted variety): According to: http://www.thenourishinggourmet.com/2008/06/more-on-kerrygold-butter.html Kerrygold produces two different types of butter for the US: a salted sweeet cream butter (gold foil) and unsalted lactic/cultured butter (sliver foil).

8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

(6259)

on June 14, 2012
at 10:15 PM

Can you just have the burger? The fries are trans-fat (vegetable oils turn to trans fat at high cooking temp) and the ice cream likely has gluten, soy, vegetables oils and other gut irritants.

Bf2291448a06d573f0fdc87cd514e512

(519)

on June 14, 2012
at 09:58 PM

Can you just chew food a lot and get the same effect?

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on June 14, 2012
at 09:12 PM

Why aren't y'all making home made fries in tallow as an occasional treat? I don't think I'll miss a vege oil fry ever again...

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on June 14, 2012
at 08:41 PM

Hmm, a harmless (if demonized) cooking method, or a meat patty filled with a bunch of junk hormones, steroids and, yes, pink slime? Bring on the Nuke!

7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

(3275)

on June 14, 2012
at 07:56 PM

Hey, that sounds like 999 cow bits for free, since I only paid $1 for the double-hamburger !

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on June 14, 2012
at 07:52 PM

EXACTLY !!!! :)

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on June 14, 2012
at 07:43 PM

It's LOL-worthy: "French Fries: Potatoes, vegetable oil (canola oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, natural beef flavor [wheat and milk derivatives]*, citric acid [preservative]), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (maintain color), salt. Prepared in vegetable oil (Canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil with TBHQ and citric acid added to preserve freshness). Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent. CONTAINS: WHEAT AND MILK. *(Natural beef flavor contains hydrolyzed wheat and hydrolyzed milk as starting ingredients)." http://bit.ly/nnBwDx

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on June 14, 2012
at 06:28 PM

If you are on a histamine diet, don't even walk into a McDonald's -- you're going to have allergen cross-contamination all over the place. I'm not sure if they keep a separate oven for those with allergies, but I doubt it.

7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

(3275)

on June 14, 2012
at 06:18 PM

Why not IF @youngpaleolover ?? 'cause I'm hungry! (And, I'd probably end up making terrible decisions out of the vending machine later in the day.

7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

(3275)

on June 14, 2012
at 06:16 PM

To further complicate things, I'm on a low histamine paleo diet for 30 day trial, so most of the normal alternatives would not suffice.

7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

(3275)

on June 14, 2012
at 06:15 PM

I have several spots in my small intestine that are scarred from past crohn's activity (20 years ago). I can't eat anything that's not fully digestible and essentially in liquid state by the time it hits that spot. I can eat peanut butter but not peanuts. I can eat really well cooked carrots, cauliflower, but not broccoli, or anything string-y. I could consume anything I toss in my vitamix.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on June 14, 2012
at 05:50 PM

Microwave ovens: http://www.howstuffworks.com/microwave.htm . Salmon really does cook splendidly in a microwave, but you have to get the timing right (if not, it may "pop" and make a little mess). Sweet potatoes are a breeze - you can't go wrong. As always, avoid cooking with plastics, especially in the microwave. Do I choose microwave use infrequently, or McDonald's use ever? I'll choose using the microwave when I have to cook lunch at work.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 14, 2012
at 05:39 PM

I'd rather eat a McDonald's patty (they don't use pink slime do they!?!?) than eat anything cooked in a Microwave!

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 14, 2012
at 05:37 PM

Im not judging here, truly. Im just very curious how your "digestion issue" will be able to tolerate McDonald's fries or ice cream if it cannot handle veggies and fruit?

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on June 14, 2012
at 05:24 PM

Why not just IF until dinner???

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on June 14, 2012
at 05:12 PM

Oh how I miss McD's fries...

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21430)

on June 14, 2012
at 04:54 PM

The ice "cream" is a non-dairy frankenfood if I remember correctly.

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21430)

on June 14, 2012
at 04:50 PM

Yeah, they were still from frozen to patty when I was there 16 years ago.

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A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on June 14, 2012
at 04:43 PM

The patties are tossed onto the grill in a frozen state. At least they were when I worked there. OMG, it's been, like, over 35 years... I quit when I heard they were gonna start doing breakfast.

I'd say it's a wash between the fries/ice cream. What's worse - oxidized high n6 veg oil or sugar/dairy/wheat(if you eat the cone)? I guess it depends on what intolerances (if any) you have. The ice cream sans cone is okay by Ray Peat (hahaha). Me? I love me some Micky D's fries...

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21430)

on June 14, 2012
at 04:50 PM

Yeah, they were still from frozen to patty when I was there 16 years ago.

A6e2b231f69366ce825476c5a6dcfff6

(1967)

on June 15, 2012
at 06:12 AM

The burgers are still cooked frozen. I'd stay away from the fries, crazy synthetic veggie oils. The ice cream is low-fat + sugar.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on June 14, 2012
at 05:12 PM

Oh how I miss McD's fries...

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21430)

on June 14, 2012
at 04:54 PM

The ice "cream" is a non-dairy frankenfood if I remember correctly.

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on June 14, 2012
at 09:12 PM

Why aren't y'all making home made fries in tallow as an occasional treat? I don't think I'll miss a vege oil fry ever again...

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8de4f4795a4171f94063af1dd60ca5a4

on June 14, 2012
at 06:57 PM

Go to a grocery store and buy a whole cooked chicken. Peel the skin off if it has seasoning on it (usually loaded with msg). Some deli's even have mashed cauliflower, just ask what's in it first.

On average a McDonalds hamburger has bits of 1000 cows in it... Not too paleo.

7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

(3275)

on June 14, 2012
at 07:56 PM

Hey, that sounds like 999 cow bits for free, since I only paid $1 for the double-hamburger !

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on June 15, 2012
at 12:31 AM

Good idea, but totally NOT answering the question....

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on June 15, 2012
at 04:44 PM

Lately, my go to meal on the road is: Find a grocery store (thank you GPS!), hit the salad bar. It may not be perfect, but it's working for me. All weekend travel softball tournaments just became way easier!

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Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on June 14, 2012
at 05:19 PM

If you have access to a microwave, there is a plethora of fresh animal and vegetable matter at any local grocery store -- e.g. fresh salmon and a sweet potato and can easily be microwaved.

McDonald's should never have to be a last resort. :-/

EDIT: ehow has a good writeup of how the hamburgers are made. It looks like it is from a frozen state to in the customer's mouth in 90 seconds.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on June 14, 2012
at 05:39 PM

I'd rather eat a McDonald's patty (they don't use pink slime do they!?!?) than eat anything cooked in a Microwave!

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on June 14, 2012
at 05:50 PM

Microwave ovens: http://www.howstuffworks.com/microwave.htm . Salmon really does cook splendidly in a microwave, but you have to get the timing right (if not, it may "pop" and make a little mess). Sweet potatoes are a breeze - you can't go wrong. As always, avoid cooking with plastics, especially in the microwave. Do I choose microwave use infrequently, or McDonald's use ever? I'll choose using the microwave when I have to cook lunch at work.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on June 14, 2012
at 06:28 PM

If you are on a histamine diet, don't even walk into a McDonald's -- you're going to have allergen cross-contamination all over the place. I'm not sure if they keep a separate oven for those with allergies, but I doubt it.

7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

(3275)

on June 14, 2012
at 06:16 PM

To further complicate things, I'm on a low histamine paleo diet for 30 day trial, so most of the normal alternatives would not suffice.

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on June 14, 2012
at 08:41 PM

Hmm, a harmless (if demonized) cooking method, or a meat patty filled with a bunch of junk hormones, steroids and, yes, pink slime? Bring on the Nuke!

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A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on June 15, 2012
at 12:53 AM

You know, if I was really hungry, searching for the least harmful option available in my immediate vicinity, and someone said, "Why don't you just do an intermittent fast?", assuming I could restrain myself from slapping them, I'd probably say something like "Thanks for nothing," walk away, and have a cheeseburger without the bun.

Some piously paleo people relentlessly push abstemiousness, but I favor a "harm reduction" model. Eat multiple hamburgers without the bun, and/or the grilled chicken, and if you're not lactose/casein intolerant, maybe have plain milk or juice (instead of a shake or "ice cream"), and hope for the best. You can probably get enough calories in to prevent a more loathsome choice until your next proper meal.

Nothing about McDonald's is okay, but if I really had no other option and was desperate, I would do it. Dietary fidelity or perfection is a fantasy. Sometimes you need fuel more than you need anything else. Thankfully our bodies are mostly pretty good at handling challenges and healing. Consider it part of your "hormesis" program, and something that's perhaps not totally pleasant, but will nonetheless reinforce your commitment to doing better the rest of the time.

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65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on June 14, 2012
at 07:25 PM

To answer the question: their fries are not whole potatoes, they contain wheat flour, and do you really want that deep fried questionnable oil in your body?

God only knows about the source of their dairy and the sugar in the milk... I wouldn't have anything from there...

I understand not wanting to IF, but those options are pretty much on par with any poor vending machine choice...

If there were almonds int he vending machine, I would choose those, even if roasted in canola oil, over the McMeal.

My advice: make the best choices you can for today and take this as a lesson learned: pack your lunch. If you're able, leave some items in your desk or fridge or car for when you forget, always have a backup plan.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on June 14, 2012
at 07:43 PM

It's LOL-worthy: "French Fries: Potatoes, vegetable oil (canola oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, natural beef flavor [wheat and milk derivatives]*, citric acid [preservative]), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (maintain color), salt. Prepared in vegetable oil (Canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil with TBHQ and citric acid added to preserve freshness). Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent. CONTAINS: WHEAT AND MILK. *(Natural beef flavor contains hydrolyzed wheat and hydrolyzed milk as starting ingredients)." http://bit.ly/nnBwDx

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on June 14, 2012
at 07:52 PM

EXACTLY !!!! :)

87b7d250ea30415ed4c1afd809f4053f

(968)

on June 15, 2012
at 01:52 PM

I believe the fries are sugar washed (I think that's the term) too to give that golden look.

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F92e4ca55291c3f3096a3d4d3d854986

(11698)

on June 14, 2012
at 05:43 PM

DON'T DO IT. Anything else is a better option. ESPECIALLY if you have digestion issues (like me). McDonald's burgers (even bunless), canola-fried fries and/or vanilla "frozen dessert" is very, very far from Paleo. I'm not even sure it's food.

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C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

on June 15, 2012
at 02:14 PM

If anything eat the meat without the bun. Honestly I would just go to wendy's as they are higher quality.

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on June 15, 2012
at 04:28 PM

I highly recommend getting a burger and just eating it without the bun--I do this on road trips with my family. Of all the fast food places Wendy's is the one that tastes most like meat without a bunch of spongey-strange texture to eat. If it is McDonalds then the Angus burger is the best with no bun.

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B33c263fd0fcff8b59e63dd2179e88a7

(151)

on June 14, 2012
at 06:05 PM

Isn't there anywhere else you could pick up some lunch? Of all places I'd go to for a lunch emergeny, I think Mc Donalds would be my very last choice. (Or maybe not, but then I would just call it a very bad cheat and enjoy it. Lack of bun isn't going to make it healthy.)

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2e5dc29c61f97d335ffb990508424719

on June 14, 2012
at 05:47 PM

Perhaps a good day for an intermittent fast? I do that on travel days to avoid airport food.

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A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

on June 14, 2012
at 11:57 PM

To answer all of the questions:

The patties are thrown frozen right onto the grill, no thawing at all. I believe most restaurants now have the "clamshell" style grills that cook the patties on both sides at once. If not, they have a "sear" phase where they press a metal puck down on top of the meat to give it a quicker browning on one side.

As for the "ice cream" and the "french fries"... The ice cream contains, among other things, corn syrup solids, guar gum, and cellulose gum. The french fries are not only cooked in one or more of soybean oil, corn oil, canola oil and hydrogenated soybean oil, they also contain hydrogenated soybean oil and "wheat derivative".

What would be better? Go to the grocery store that the McDonalds probably sits in the parking lot of and grab a package of Boar's Head roast beef and a small container of goat cheese, or potentially a tray of Deviled Eggs from the deli counter.

As for better from McDonalds? I'd say your best bet (still not as good as, say, the deli counter at a grocer) would have been a Double Quarter Pounder with no cheese (contains gluten), no ketchup or mustard, extra tomatoes, extra pickles and extra lettuce and a glass of water. Discard the bun.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on June 15, 2012
at 03:13 AM

yes, I eat from grocery stores all the time. Deli meat + cheese = the boss.

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153c4e4a22734ded15bf4eb35b448e85

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on June 14, 2012
at 08:28 PM

You do know that beef is almost always at least 3 weeks old? After the aging process they make the beef patties and freeze them, also kerrygold is cultured, and even if you choose the uncultured variety it is high in histamine.

Your version of a low histamine diet is a bit weird without the veggies etc. and with meat since meat contains histidine which the body breaks down into histamine, so maybe not the best choice in large quantities?

7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

(3275)

on June 14, 2012
at 10:32 PM

Thanks for mentioning Kerrygold. I just checked: (glad I use the gold salted variety): According to: http://www.thenourishinggourmet.com/2008/06/more-on-kerrygold-butter.html Kerrygold produces two different types of butter for the US: a salted sweeet cream butter (gold foil) and unsalted lactic/cultured butter (sliver foil).

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7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

on June 14, 2012
at 08:01 PM

Just as an update, I ended up getting 2 double hamburgers (plain & no bun), and two plain Vanilla Sundays (plain - no topping).

2.5 hours later, I'm feeling less than optimal. I think the ice cream had a very negative effect from a blood sugar perspective. (Reminds me how I felt before going paleo).

I would like to thank everyone for the excellent points.

Trying to navigate low-histamine paleo without being able to eat salad & veggies is very tricky.

From a histamine perspective, having high-turn-over frozen beef from freezer to my plate really fast is great! Cooking chicken or beef for breakfast, then transporting to work in my lunch pale (even with my cold packs), and stored in the "dorm-type" refrigerator probably generates a bunch of histamines.

As a compromise, maybe I should nuke a sweet potato with kerrygold butter and just order the beef from mcdonalds to ensure low histamines.

Mike

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on June 15, 2012
at 03:15 AM

I used to think I had histamine intolerance too. Most people who think that just have massive gut permeability issues and need to correct nutritional and inflammatory problems. Sorry, but Mickey Ds ain't going to cut it for that.

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C0fcb48d7da4f76fac17318efd2cd6b8

on June 15, 2012
at 01:26 PM

Doesn't McDonalds make halfway decent salads with grilled chicken? Skip the dressing, bring some oil and vinegar from home- that should get you down the road.

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on June 15, 2012
at 04:26 PM

Honestly...their chicken salads are disgusting. The chicken tastes "wrong."

C0fcb48d7da4f76fac17318efd2cd6b8

(4069)

on June 15, 2012
at 06:11 PM

OK.............

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7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

on June 15, 2012
at 01:18 PM

Ok, with all this said, I think this would be the best solution for me:

Since I do pack my lunch 99% of the time, it would not be hard for me to keep a couple of sweet potatoes at work. At the end of the week, I can rotate them home and bring in new ones on Monday.

I can keep a jar of coconut oil at work (doesn't require refrigeration).

If I were not trying to avoid histamine, I could have eaten the emergency can of tuna which I keep in my cube.

Thank you every for your excellent comments and suggestions,

Regards,

Mike

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