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Is it too much?

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Created January 29, 2013 at 5:23 PM

So I ate about 2 lbs of beef liver for dinner yesterday. Felt energetic afterwards, then a tiny bit sick. Felt fine this morning.

Is it too much though? I'm asking about vitamin a poisoning. Urine was bright yellow even with heavy water intake.

There's still more left. Safe to eat?

Generally, in terms of weight (not IU's), how much liver is safe to eat per week? I'm not really full until I've had about 2 lbs of meat for dinner.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Yes. .

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

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on January 30, 2013
at 06:28 AM

Beef liver has much more nutrition than chicken, particulary Vitamin A. 2 pounds might be oversaturating ones own retinol liver daily intake. I guess it also depends how much you have eaten vitamin a in past. I could eat a alot of liver, i like it, but i always worry about retinol, theres so muh of it in my diet. Last week i ate some fresh burbot liver, its like cod liver but higher in vitamins. Particulary Vitamin K.

43a4ef6f58026d1593004aebe542d597

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on January 30, 2013
at 02:10 AM

Here are some references: www.bodybuilding.com/fun/how-much-protein-is-it-safe-for-me-to-take.htm http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/maki1.htm http://www.musclehack.com/how-much-protein-is-needed-to-build-muscle/ These are just a few. I know someone who has done 600 grams a day. But he weighed 320 lbs., is 6'9" tall, and was ripped. If you want to build muscle, you gotta have protein. Just be smart. Do some research into the topic of "how much protein." But be careful, some sites will give you how much for the average person. You want the ones for building muscle.

43a4ef6f58026d1593004aebe542d597

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on January 30, 2013
at 01:54 AM

Maybe I should have explained my definition of "meal" a little better. When I say "meal", I mean what you can eat in one sitting every 3 or so hours. It probably takes, what, about 15 minutes to eat a meal, give or take a few minutes. I'm sure you have seen other people on here mention eating every 2-4 hours. Someone trying to build muscle will ideally eat 5 or 6 small meals throughout the day, with each meal having about 30 grams of protein. That will get you somewhere between 150 and 180 g of protein. If you overload, your body will store it as fat or glucose.

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

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on January 29, 2013
at 10:53 PM

Yes, lean weight. I didn't know about the body being able to process only 30-50 grams per meal. How does the body know when the meal begin/ends? Could I eat 50 grams of protein, wait 10 minutes then eat another 50? How long of a pause is necessary? I'm very interested. Also, what are your sources for this info? I do vary my sources: organ meats (liver), muscle meats (beef/chicken/fish), full-fat dairy and even some non-animal sources (nuts, sprouted grains). I will try to split up my meals.

Abf0b6d5e20906f742fd600887292c15

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on January 29, 2013
at 10:03 PM

I mean that if you eat only meat you will fill up on lot fewer calories, especially with lean cuts

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

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on January 29, 2013
at 10:01 PM

That's actually a slightly more than average amount. Honestly, I just work by a bunch of water bottles and I keep drinking them. Also, I've found more water means less acne. Not sure what you mean by getting full fast from meat.

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

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on January 29, 2013
at 09:57 PM

I guess I feel that those high-starch foods have little nutritional value. But, like I said I do eat sprouted grains occasionally.

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on January 29, 2013
at 09:39 PM

To gain weight I would definitely focus on high starch diet, also high fat and high protein of course, in other words high everything diet

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on January 29, 2013
at 09:32 PM

@dk 2 lbs of liver, with dinner (as in I had more than just liver for dinner). @Matt, I don't care what color methylcobalamin is. If you've ever taken a b-vitamin complex you know that it will turn your urine a deep yellow. The only thing I've ever had that's turned my urine pink/red is massive amounts of Beets.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 29, 2013
at 09:24 PM

Carbs. Eat them.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 29, 2013
at 09:23 PM

...is pink.....

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

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on January 29, 2013
at 08:59 PM

and red, diluted enough...

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

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on January 29, 2013
at 08:21 PM

Fairly low carb, yes. But this is a paleo forum and I'd guess most people are low carb. I do eat fruit, nuts, and full-fat dairy (milk/yogurt). I also eat sprouted grains occasionally.

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

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on January 29, 2013
at 07:41 PM

Not sure how you can make that claim. I eat until I'm full, not based on weight or volume. It just usually ends up being that much. Also, I'm trying to gain weight. Even with ~3 lbs of meat daily plus a bunch of whole milk, it doesn't seem to be working.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 29, 2013
at 07:03 PM

B12 (methylcobalamin) is red. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylcobalamin

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

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on January 29, 2013
at 06:30 PM

Finally someone realizes I wasn't joking! I don't eat liver that often. Maybe once or twice a month. I'll try to limit the portion size. In your comment above, did you mean 2 lbs of liver or 2 lbs of dinner?

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on January 29, 2013
at 06:26 PM

@greymouser, I've eaten 1.5-2 pounds of liver in one day before, even in one meal, I don't see why this question would have to be fake?..?. @dk, you'll be fine. Dont eat 2 pounds of dinner every night of the week for weeks at a time though, short of that, you're fine, just listen to your body.

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

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on January 29, 2013
at 06:08 PM

Ugh, don't drink coffee. Is tea OK?

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

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on January 29, 2013
at 06:07 PM

Stunts? This is how I normally eat. It's just usually chicken liver, not beef.

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

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on January 29, 2013
at 06:06 PM

What's not to understand? I'm hungry so I eat. Anyway, I've found that the whole idea that meat will satiate you faster than carbs isn't really true for me, though I don't eat many carbs. I can just keep eating and eating meat. I guess it helps to be 25, male and skinny.

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on January 29, 2013
at 05:51 PM

Bright yellow urine is a sign of too much Vitamin B (specifically riboflavin) not vitamin A poisoning.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on January 29, 2013
at 05:49 PM

I've eaten a pound in a sitting myself....never could imagine doing 2 pounds though.

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on January 29, 2013
at 05:46 PM

This has to be fake ...

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Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on January 29, 2013
at 06:24 PM

I used to buy chicken liver by the 5 pound bucket back in the day. I've eaten 1-2 lbs in my life, a few times. I mixed it with other food though, not by itself. The yellow urine is more likely a b (b12) vitamin overdose. It's water soluble and harmless. However, the copper and vitmain A in liver might give you some issues, so while you're fine now, that isn't something I'd consider doing more than once a week TBH.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 29, 2013
at 07:03 PM

B12 (methylcobalamin) is red. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylcobalamin

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 29, 2013
at 09:23 PM

...is pink.....

44348571d9bc70c02ac2975cc500f154

(5853)

on January 30, 2013
at 06:28 AM

Beef liver has much more nutrition than chicken, particulary Vitamin A. 2 pounds might be oversaturating ones own retinol liver daily intake. I guess it also depends how much you have eaten vitamin a in past. I could eat a alot of liver, i like it, but i always worry about retinol, theres so muh of it in my diet. Last week i ate some fresh burbot liver, its like cod liver but higher in vitamins. Particulary Vitamin K.

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

(15)

on January 29, 2013
at 06:30 PM

Finally someone realizes I wasn't joking! I don't eat liver that often. Maybe once or twice a month. I'll try to limit the portion size. In your comment above, did you mean 2 lbs of liver or 2 lbs of dinner?

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

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on January 29, 2013
at 08:59 PM

and red, diluted enough...

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10979)

on January 29, 2013
at 09:32 PM

@dk 2 lbs of liver, with dinner (as in I had more than just liver for dinner). @Matt, I don't care what color methylcobalamin is. If you've ever taken a b-vitamin complex you know that it will turn your urine a deep yellow. The only thing I've ever had that's turned my urine pink/red is massive amounts of Beets.

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on January 29, 2013
at 05:49 PM

I don't eat more than 4-8 oz in a week (and I think I've read most people on this site do the same) so I'm gonna go ahead and say 2 lbs is a bit overkill in one day. Yes, vitamin A toxicity is something to worry about but that will happen only over a long period of time of eating large amounts of liver.

Wait at least a week to finish the rest of the liver. Stick to no more than half a pound every time you eat it.

And I'm sure it goes without saying that there are a lot of other choices of meat to choose from to help you get full.

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on January 29, 2013
at 05:48 PM

Actually you might consider copper toxicity before vitamin A being problematic. Even at that I wouldn't be concerned. Just diversify which animal your sourcing liver from. I think I have read that if your eating more than a pound a week switch from ruminant liver to that of chicken to reduce the copper load.

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43a4ef6f58026d1593004aebe542d597

on January 29, 2013
at 10:12 PM

So you say you're trying to gain weight. Me too. I'm guessing you mean muscle weight, not fat weight. Disregard everything I'm about to say if you're looking for fat weight. I digress: to gain some muscle, which will increase your weight, you should be eating a high protein diet while doing fairly intense weight lifting, without a whole lot of cardio. If you are naturally skinny, you don't want to do a bunch of cardio. You should be eating roughly one gram of protein or more, for every pound of your body weight, spread out throughout the day. You ate 2 lbs. of beef liver in one meal. That's 184 grams of protein...IN ONE MEAL! Your body can only process 30 to 50 grams of protein per meal. You just wasted 134 grams of protein to your feces, sweat, glucose, urine, and every other way your body excretes excess nutrients. You would be better off eating a half pound, four times throughout the day. Your body will like you much better. And try to put some variety in your protein sources. Too much of anything can be bad for you.

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

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on January 29, 2013
at 10:53 PM

Yes, lean weight. I didn't know about the body being able to process only 30-50 grams per meal. How does the body know when the meal begin/ends? Could I eat 50 grams of protein, wait 10 minutes then eat another 50? How long of a pause is necessary? I'm very interested. Also, what are your sources for this info? I do vary my sources: organ meats (liver), muscle meats (beef/chicken/fish), full-fat dairy and even some non-animal sources (nuts, sprouted grains). I will try to split up my meals.

43a4ef6f58026d1593004aebe542d597

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on January 30, 2013
at 02:10 AM

Here are some references: www.bodybuilding.com/fun/how-much-protein-is-it-safe-for-me-to-take.htm http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/maki1.htm http://www.musclehack.com/how-much-protein-is-needed-to-build-muscle/ These are just a few. I know someone who has done 600 grams a day. But he weighed 320 lbs., is 6'9" tall, and was ripped. If you want to build muscle, you gotta have protein. Just be smart. Do some research into the topic of "how much protein." But be careful, some sites will give you how much for the average person. You want the ones for building muscle.

43a4ef6f58026d1593004aebe542d597

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on January 30, 2013
at 01:54 AM

Maybe I should have explained my definition of "meal" a little better. When I say "meal", I mean what you can eat in one sitting every 3 or so hours. It probably takes, what, about 15 minutes to eat a meal, give or take a few minutes. I'm sure you have seen other people on here mention eating every 2-4 hours. Someone trying to build muscle will ideally eat 5 or 6 small meals throughout the day, with each meal having about 30 grams of protein. That will get you somewhere between 150 and 180 g of protein. If you overload, your body will store it as fat or glucose.

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Abf0b6d5e20906f742fd600887292c15

on January 29, 2013
at 09:45 PM

Why would you drink a gallon of water each morning? Why are you striving for clear urine, you could screw up electrolytes drinking that much water, worst case water intoxication and swelling of brain!

You get full fast from that much meat cause it's a huge burden for the digestive tract, human is not a predator like tigers or whatever, their gastric tract is much more acidic

Abf0b6d5e20906f742fd600887292c15

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on January 29, 2013
at 10:03 PM

I mean that if you eat only meat you will fill up on lot fewer calories, especially with lean cuts

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

(15)

on January 29, 2013
at 10:01 PM

That's actually a slightly more than average amount. Honestly, I just work by a bunch of water bottles and I keep drinking them. Also, I've found more water means less acne. Not sure what you mean by getting full fast from meat.

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004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

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on January 29, 2013
at 08:38 PM

OK, I'll take it easy with the liver. I didn't expect to see so many "too much meat" comments on a paleo forum. I think it makes sense to eat until you're full. We're all different and so this amount varies for everyone. Like I said, I was mainly worried about vitamin a toxicity.

Urine is back to clear after drinking a gallon of water this morning, my usual amount.

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Abf0b6d5e20906f742fd600887292c15

on January 29, 2013
at 08:09 PM

That's WAY too much meat, are you doing low carb or something? human isn't efficient at digesting that much protein

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

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on January 29, 2013
at 08:21 PM

Fairly low carb, yes. But this is a paleo forum and I'd guess most people are low carb. I do eat fruit, nuts, and full-fat dairy (milk/yogurt). I also eat sprouted grains occasionally.

Abf0b6d5e20906f742fd600887292c15

(192)

on January 29, 2013
at 09:39 PM

To gain weight I would definitely focus on high starch diet, also high fat and high protein of course, in other words high everything diet

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

(15)

on January 29, 2013
at 09:57 PM

I guess I feel that those high-starch foods have little nutritional value. But, like I said I do eat sprouted grains occasionally.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 29, 2013
at 07:08 PM

Yes, it's too much. So wasteful. 2 pounds of meat, any meat, is wasteful/inefficient as well - you're just making glucose out of protein at that point. Wasting valuable nitrogen... tsk tsk.

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

(15)

on January 29, 2013
at 07:41 PM

Not sure how you can make that claim. I eat until I'm full, not based on weight or volume. It just usually ends up being that much. Also, I'm trying to gain weight. Even with ~3 lbs of meat daily plus a bunch of whole milk, it doesn't seem to be working.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 29, 2013
at 09:24 PM

Carbs. Eat them.

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4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

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on January 29, 2013
at 06:02 PM

That's insanity. Try to average about 3 ounces per week. Have some coffee afterwards to reduce iron absorption. Eating much more than that is likely to suppress your thyroid function, not to mention a possible overdose of minerals or vitamins.

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

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on January 29, 2013
at 06:08 PM

Ugh, don't drink coffee. Is tea OK?

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Yes. .

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7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

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on January 29, 2013
at 05:57 PM

Well, ya ain't dead... but try not to do stunts like that. If you had died, well, I can just see the headlines. My mom would be calling me and asking me to stop eating my crazy diet.

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

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on January 29, 2013
at 06:07 PM

Stunts? This is how I normally eat. It's just usually chicken liver, not beef.

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on January 29, 2013
at 05:56 PM

I don't think going all out on any specific food but you should live to see another day. I dont' understand how you can eat that much though. textareaThistextarea post from Chris Kresser might help you choose whether to eat the rest or not :)

004dadef3bbd6754467deb7602b7b5fd

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on January 29, 2013
at 06:06 PM

What's not to understand? I'm hungry so I eat. Anyway, I've found that the whole idea that meat will satiate you faster than carbs isn't really true for me, though I don't eat many carbs. I can just keep eating and eating meat. I guess it helps to be 25, male and skinny.

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