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Are beans allowed on a paleo diet?

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Created January 28, 2014 at 5:36 AM

Are beans allowed on a paleo diet?

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 29, 2014
at 01:34 PM

That's the old-school paleo thought, rather, it means microbal action, a good thing! Digestible carbs? Paleo ain't low carb no mo! Phytates? Phytates are in all plant foods to one degree or another. Nutrient content dwarfs phytate content 9 times out of 10, so phytates aren't a real issue. Lectins? Show me the studies that really show lectins cause problems.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 29, 2014
at 01:34 PM

Not just natto & miso??? all beans likely have been wrongly villified. The issues with legumes: lectins, phytates, digestible carbs, indigestible carbs. Working backwards: indigestible carbs = gas & gas means a dysfunctional GI, right?

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on January 29, 2014
at 10:35 AM

I also find I tolerate / thrive on well soaked beans. Soaked until fermentation just begins, then cooked. And I love the flavour too!

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on January 28, 2014
at 08:31 PM

Yes, I find for simple soaking, about 36 hours to be optimal for something like garbanzos though I only do lentils about 24. I haven't tried adzuki yet but now that I can get certified gluten-free from arrowhead, may give them a shot. If I am actually fermenting, well, they need to be soaked at least 12 hours before grinding usually but then the fermentation I only do for about 12 hours - the bugs do so much of the work, faster.

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on January 28, 2014
at 06:01 PM

Very useful! Thank you.

56c28e3654d4dd8a8abdb2c1f525202e

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on January 28, 2014
at 05:59 PM

There is natto and miso, as posted below. There are people who will digest them fine, and unlike grains, they give you substantial amounts of folates, magnesium, potassium. Fresh frozen beans and peas are a lot lighter on your body than dried beans. You can cook beans after they have sprouted. So there is that. There is also the strong evidence for use of pulses by hunter gatherers. See

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2013/11/beans-lentils-and-paleo-diet.html

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on January 28, 2014
at 04:13 PM

From wikipedia: "plants [legumes in particular] use the phytoestrogens as part of their natural defence against the overpopulation of the herbivore animals by controlling the male fertility". In other words, legumes chemically neuter (temporarily) the animals that feed upon them in order to keep themselves from being wiped out by the very herbivores that eat them. So legumes are really not ideal, unless you don't mind having a little bit of a gut, eating PUFAs, having a hard time absorbing nutrients from food, and flooding your system with estrogen mimics which might affect your fertility

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on January 28, 2014
at 04:09 PM

I presume that the most obvious reason being that humans did not consume them during paleolithic times, hence they were not paleo, but that really would be the least important. More convincing reasons would be because they are very starchy, their fats tend to be poor quality omega 6 (e.g. peanut and soybean oil), they contain a very heavy load of lectins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lectin), and a large amount of phytoestrogens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens) which legumes make in order to decrease the fertility (via estrogen-like effects) of the animals that consume them.

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on January 28, 2014
at 03:56 PM

Why not?

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56c28e3654d4dd8a8abdb2c1f525202e

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on January 28, 2014
at 07:50 PM

One thing that always surprises me is the 12-24 soaking period. to me it is 24-48, much closer to 48, and I want to see germination. (of course this will not work with split peas). There is also a strong hierarchy within pulses, just like in grains. Dark colored beans are indeed the worst. To me, lentils and adzuki are tops. They don't give you nearly any O6 either, and adzuki give you a macro shot of folate.

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on January 28, 2014
at 08:31 PM

Yes, I find for simple soaking, about 36 hours to be optimal for something like garbanzos though I only do lentils about 24. I haven't tried adzuki yet but now that I can get certified gluten-free from arrowhead, may give them a shot. If I am actually fermenting, well, they need to be soaked at least 12 hours before grinding usually but then the fermentation I only do for about 12 hours - the bugs do so much of the work, faster.

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on January 28, 2014
at 04:28 PM

we are getting ready for the big natto and miso battle. after all, soured wine is allowed, why not soured beans?

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on January 28, 2014
at 04:09 PM

Look for information on soaking them for long periods of time before cooking and consumption. I tolerate soaked or soured beans in small quantities far better than rice in similar amounts oddly enough.

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on January 29, 2014
at 10:35 AM

I also find I tolerate / thrive on well soaked beans. Soaked until fermentation just begins, then cooked. And I love the flavour too!

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on January 28, 2014
at 04:04 PM

Technicially no, they are not. But as paleo evolves, beans are seen by many folks as a healthy addition to diet, assuming they agree with you.

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on January 28, 2014
at 02:10 PM

No and neither are any other legumes (members of the Fabaceae family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabaceae). This includes beans of all kinds, lentils, peas, garbanzos (hummus included), peanuts, and soy.

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on January 28, 2014
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Why not?

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on January 28, 2014
at 10:14 AM

No

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on January 28, 2014
at 05:39 AM

You can eat whatever you want but they aren't technically allowed. I was never a big fan so giving them up was pretty easy for me.

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