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Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 09, 2013 at 12:18 PM

A few of my friends and I are working out in the oilfields of North Dakota. We work fifteen hour days, get around eight hours of sleep a night, and spend most of our time awake moving and lifting decently heavy things. At the beginning of February we decided to go paleo. What I'm curious about is how to successfully navigate the transition and what out meals should look like to keep up with our active lives.

So far a typical days food for the four of us is as follows:

2-4 lbs of bacon 2-4 lbs of steak One bag of baby spinach A half a bag of baby carrots 1/2 - 1 full quart of heavy cream per person. Ocassionly an apple or something

We all eat similar amounts of the same stuff and all of us have noticed an increase in energy.

Now if it were just me I would continue eating the way I am, but since I'm basically watching over three other guys who haven't done any research on the paleo diet I feel kind of responsible for them.

So I guess my question is as follows:

Are we doing it right? We all feel great and none of us are too overly concerned about gaining weight (three of us really need it). Is this awesome diet we've been on too good to be true?

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on February 09, 2013
at 07:23 PM

Roth, any substantiation for that claim? Just because carb metabolism requires magnesium doesn't mean metabolizing carbs will deplete magnesium. Fat metabolism requires magnesium too.

43873f3cea4f22f91653b0f5ec7ab9d9

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on February 09, 2013
at 06:10 PM

I'd like to try out those Bumblebee Oysters, but I noticed they're packed with cottonseed oil. How much of a concern do you think that is?

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on February 09, 2013
at 04:53 PM

If 3 of you guys are trying to gain weight then you probably don't need a low carb diet IMO potatoes are fine, just listen to your body and make sure to peel them. Dairy is gray area.

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on February 09, 2013
at 04:50 PM

High carb foods require magnesium for carbohydrate metabolism - so saying that any high-carb food (potatoes) is a good source of magnesium is intellectually dishonest.

71576e66a840c15639a2b3de448d5376

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on February 09, 2013
at 01:42 PM

BTW my doggone smartphone is what's making me sounds like a moron.

71576e66a840c15639a2b3de448d5376

(15)

on February 09, 2013
at 01:41 PM

Do we trust the primal blueprint round here? I'm one of sissons avid readers... Shellfish actually sounds.amazingright now. Why does Stephens diet sound like lots of carbs to me? Potatoes and non fermented dairy is legit? Yeah I need to read a nonprimal paleo book. I'll try Wolff I guess.

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on February 09, 2013
at 01:21 PM

Here's what I would do: Goto cronometer.com and input a day's food. It will show what micronutrients you're short in and also your macronutrient breakdown. This can provide good direction on how to improve your diet. Next, I would get a book like Perfect Health Diet and learn how to choose your foods. One good book can solve the vast majority of your questions and problems when you are starting off.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on February 09, 2013
at 01:09 PM

I fully support eating different veggies, cheese and fish/shellfish. Red meat, veggies (potatoes,greens) , dairy (cream, milk, cheese, butter) and shellfish (oysters) have made up 90% of my diet for maybe 2 months now.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on February 09, 2013
at 01:05 PM

Well, adding some potatoes and seafood would diminish the chances of you becomming deficient in any of the electrolytes. Otherwise you might get low in magnesium, potassium, iodine. Seafood is a good source of vitamin d, selenium, b12 and an easy seafood is bumblebee oysters packed in salt water from Walmart. They're cheap and chuck full of zinc, I highly recommend them. If you want to see specifically what you're low in then visit nutritiondata, just google it, you can enter all your foods and see what you need more of.

71576e66a840c15639a2b3de448d5376

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on February 09, 2013
at 01:02 PM

I fail to see how the amounts of steak and Bacon could be problematic, but I agree we need more variety. We have been thinking we need more fish and veggies and maybe some cheese, kinda going for a more lactopaleo approach. Also Sorry if I seem kinda incoherently scatterbrained, just finished a shift. Imma read this when I wake up and possibly delete my possibly stupid question. Sorrythanks!

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on February 09, 2013
at 12:59 PM

What specifically is this diet deficient in?

71576e66a840c15639a2b3de448d5376

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on February 09, 2013
at 12:34 PM

I dunno, deficiencies or too low Carb for the transition or anything along those lines.

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on February 09, 2013
at 12:20 PM

Sorry about the format, doing this on a smartphone.

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Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on February 09, 2013
at 12:32 PM

I guess I don't understand what the problem is? If everyone feels great then you're fine, for now at least. Ultimately you might want to change up the veggies/greens that you eat, since 3 of y'all need to gain weight, you might include some carbs, like potatoes and some seafood a few times a week wouldn't hurt.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on February 09, 2013
at 01:05 PM

Well, adding some potatoes and seafood would diminish the chances of you becomming deficient in any of the electrolytes. Otherwise you might get low in magnesium, potassium, iodine. Seafood is a good source of vitamin d, selenium, b12 and an easy seafood is bumblebee oysters packed in salt water from Walmart. They're cheap and chuck full of zinc, I highly recommend them. If you want to see specifically what you're low in then visit nutritiondata, just google it, you can enter all your foods and see what you need more of.

71576e66a840c15639a2b3de448d5376

(15)

on February 09, 2013
at 12:34 PM

I dunno, deficiencies or too low Carb for the transition or anything along those lines.

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

(12682)

on February 09, 2013
at 07:23 PM

Roth, any substantiation for that claim? Just because carb metabolism requires magnesium doesn't mean metabolizing carbs will deplete magnesium. Fat metabolism requires magnesium too.

43873f3cea4f22f91653b0f5ec7ab9d9

(401)

on February 09, 2013
at 06:10 PM

I'd like to try out those Bumblebee Oysters, but I noticed they're packed with cottonseed oil. How much of a concern do you think that is?

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on February 09, 2013
at 04:50 PM

High carb foods require magnesium for carbohydrate metabolism - so saying that any high-carb food (potatoes) is a good source of magnesium is intellectually dishonest.

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64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on February 09, 2013
at 04:36 PM

Short term you guys are fine. You'll wanna add some different veggies and be sure to add some fish and different types/cuts of meat. And stop apologizing! :)

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9c4ac9d902498a3158dbeee8aed6bbe4

(211)

on February 09, 2013
at 02:03 PM

Primal Blueprint is kinda weak on diet. Expand your reading and you'll get that feeling as well. I have read all the major paleo books and also quite a few low carb ones. The PHD is my favorite diet guide by far. As for youtube, this is one of my fav lectures (Cordain) http://youtu.be/5dw1MuD9EP4

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9c4ac9d902498a3158dbeee8aed6bbe4

(211)

on February 09, 2013
at 12:45 PM

Not to be a total downer but...

Your diet, as described, appears to be unbalanced and lacking many nutrients. I would be concerned about the lack of variety and the amount of bacon + steak that you are consuming.

At first you may feel fantastic, but eventually your body's stores of various nutrients will become depleted, and you won't feel so great. You'll also develop strong cravings for other foods (and not the good kinds).

Also, I wouldn't really call your diet Paleo.

What I suggest you do is read a book on what a paleo diet is, and learn the basics of proper nutrition. Any of the popular/best sellers will do. It's well worth your time!

Good luck to you and your crew!

71576e66a840c15639a2b3de448d5376

(15)

on February 09, 2013
at 01:42 PM

BTW my doggone smartphone is what's making me sounds like a moron.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on February 09, 2013
at 12:59 PM

What specifically is this diet deficient in?

71576e66a840c15639a2b3de448d5376

(15)

on February 09, 2013
at 01:41 PM

Do we trust the primal blueprint round here? I'm one of sissons avid readers... Shellfish actually sounds.amazingright now. Why does Stephens diet sound like lots of carbs to me? Potatoes and non fermented dairy is legit? Yeah I need to read a nonprimal paleo book. I'll try Wolff I guess.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on February 09, 2013
at 04:53 PM

If 3 of you guys are trying to gain weight then you probably don't need a low carb diet IMO potatoes are fine, just listen to your body and make sure to peel them. Dairy is gray area.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on February 09, 2013
at 01:09 PM

I fully support eating different veggies, cheese and fish/shellfish. Red meat, veggies (potatoes,greens) , dairy (cream, milk, cheese, butter) and shellfish (oysters) have made up 90% of my diet for maybe 2 months now.

9c4ac9d902498a3158dbeee8aed6bbe4

(211)

on February 09, 2013
at 01:21 PM

Here's what I would do: Goto cronometer.com and input a day's food. It will show what micronutrients you're short in and also your macronutrient breakdown. This can provide good direction on how to improve your diet. Next, I would get a book like Perfect Health Diet and learn how to choose your foods. One good book can solve the vast majority of your questions and problems when you are starting off.

71576e66a840c15639a2b3de448d5376

(15)

on February 09, 2013
at 01:02 PM

I fail to see how the amounts of steak and Bacon could be problematic, but I agree we need more variety. We have been thinking we need more fish and veggies and maybe some cheese, kinda going for a more lactopaleo approach. Also Sorry if I seem kinda incoherently scatterbrained, just finished a shift. Imma read this when I wake up and possibly delete my possibly stupid question. Sorrythanks!

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