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Energy Drinks, B12, whats the deal?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 03, 2012 at 11:57 PM

I know all thoughts of energy drinks are bad. But tell me why please :)

and especially the Absolutely Zero Monster sugar free, and its my fav. (its been my hardest ween yet)

INGREDIENTS: CARBONATED WATER, CITRIC ACID, ERYTHRITOL, NATURAL FLAVORS, TAURINE, SODIUM CITRATE, PANAX GINSENG ROOT EXTRACT, COLOR ADDED, L-CARNITINE - L-TARTRATE, CAFFEINE, SORBIC ACID, SUCRALOSE, BENZOIC ACID, NIACINAMIDE, ACESULFAME POTASSIUM, SODIUM CHLORIDE, GLUCURONOLACTONE, INOSITOL, GUARANA SEED EXTRACT, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE, RIBOFLAVIN, MALTODEXTRIN, CYANOCOBALAMIN.

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on June 07, 2014
at 09:45 AM

Sounds like the answer could be AMARA - a paleo energy-, sports- and recovery drink.

We sell in Europe: www.facebook.com/AMARA.europe / www.facebook.com/AMARA.europe

But in US you can buy it on Amazon.

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on February 04, 2012
at 04:52 PM

I've been craving Monster Zero too and was about to ask the same question!! Haven't had one for 3 weeks and oh how I miss it. I almost caved on a particularly stressful day this week. Steaz "all natural" energy drink just doesn't provide the same wallop.

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on February 04, 2012
at 09:19 AM

Speaking of chemicals, I was in a museum in Daytona Beach. They had an old time apothecary shop they acquired lock stock and barrel and had it as an exhibit. Interesting seeing all the jars of chemicals and herbs, etc. Essentially the predecessor to the pharmacy, except they actually made the medicines from the ingredients.

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on February 04, 2012
at 09:16 AM

What if your farmer's market doubles as a chemical depot? :)

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on February 04, 2012
at 06:57 AM

You are gonna laugh because you think the idea is gross, but I've actually paid for ox bile supplements. They helped quite a lot as a digestive enzyme when I was starting to eat more meat.

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on February 04, 2012
at 03:21 AM

If i want a energy boost I take a Time released B12 1000 mcg. It gives me energy throughout the day without the unwanted chemicals or crash!

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5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on February 04, 2012
at 01:21 AM

It really depends on the person. It's not so much that it's horrible, but it's easy to overdo it on energy drinks. The people that have problems are drinking multiple cans in a short amount of time, or mixing it with alcohol (uppers + downers, ala 4 Loco).

The main culprit is high amounts of caffeine. Something like 160mg in that 16 oz can. As a comparison, equivalent diet coke = 60mg, strong coffee = 200mg. However, you usually drink coffee slowly, and not that much in a go. Energy drinks you can pound down fast, hitting you faster.

The other thing with the smaller cans is some have the same caffeine, so you get high caffeine and low liquids (which leads to dehydration if you don't drink water since caffeine is a diuretic).

Depending on the person and their sensitivity to caffeine, they may be able to down multiple cans without problem. For example, I'm a (self admitted) caffeine fiend and can down multiple cans without problem. Someone who is ultra sensitive to caffeine could keel over with jitters and speeding heart with one can.

In the sugar version, add on something like 54 grams of sugar. Caffeine + sugar = "the double whammy diabetes in a can".

In the non-sugar, who knows how much artificial sweeteners are added. Both use high amounts of sweeteners to kill the taste of all the other additives (and even then, they can be nasty tasting).

The megadoses of the B vitamins don't usually do much negative to you since you pee it out. My recollection is that there were several studies indicated they helped with energy (thus the "boosting" claims). However, if you look at the contents, they're pretty low. I believe the bulk of the effect is the caffeine.

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on February 04, 2012
at 01:16 AM

All I know is anything ending in -ide, -ite, -ate, -ine, -itol, etc. are not what the doctor ordered for our bodies. Whole foods is the name of the game, right?

Hey - something I found if you are looking for energy: Alive! Vitamins. Google it! They are made from WHOLE foods and are really great! Definitely good for a burst of energy that lasts a few hours with no crash that that artificial crap will give you.

Just a thought :)

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on June 07, 2014
at 01:46 PM

Since someone brought up energy drinks, let me explain how I read a label FWIW.

Quote:

" INGREDIENTS: CARBONATED WATER, CITRIC ACID, ERYTHRITOL, NATURAL FLAVORS, TAURINE, SODIUM CITRATE, PANAX GINSENG ROOT EXTRACT, COLOR ADDED, L-CARNITINE - L-TARTRATE, CAFFEINE, SORBIC ACID, SUCRALOSE, BENZOIC ACID, NIACINAMIDE, ACESULFAME POTASSIUM, SODIUM CHLORIDE, GLUCURONOLACTONE, INOSITOL, GUARANA SEED EXTRACT, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE, RIBOFLAVIN, MALTODEXTRIN, CYANOCOBALAMIN. "

CARBONATED WATER,

Well, it wouldn't be soda without it.

CITRIC ACID,

Part of a team to protect kidneys (see sodium citrate below).

ERYTHRITOL,

Fermentable fake sugar, I avoid these... RED FLAG

NATURAL FLAVORS,

Yum ingredient

TAURINE,

Relaxant, not sure how much energy this ingredient gives, but it helps keep you from bouncing off walls or getting caffeine tremors.

SODIUM CITRATE,

Ahh, the pair for citric acid, how nice. These two, citric acid and sodium citrate protect your kidneys from stones, did you know that? (Potassium citrate is good too)

PANAX GINSENG ROOT EXTRACT,

Rejuvenator of old asian men.

COLOR ADDED,

Since soda is poop colored, I think people will drink anything.

L-CARNITINE -

For someone in ketosis, this is good, everyone else? probably a waste.

L-TARTRATE,

Fancy...

CAFFEINE,

For me, this is a good thing, your mileage may vary..

SORBIC ACID,

Soda flavoring, unnecessary acids just increase my body's need for CaCO2.

SUCRALOSE,

RED FLAG! Fermentable fake sugar!

BENZOIC ACID,

The definition of soda isn't it? NA Bensoate is a gummy substance that can be used for canker sores, kills germs in some forms. Dark brown goo.

NIACINAMIDE,

B vitamin

ACESULFAME POTASSIUM,

??? If it breaks up into potassium, it may be helpful.

SODIUM CHLORIDE,

Flavoring

GLUCURONOLACTONE,

Off top of head, no idea, but it's gluco-something so suspicious that it may ferment.

INOSITOL,

Not balanced by choline, hmmm...

GUARANA SEED EXTRACT,

More caffeine

PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE,

B6

RIBOFLAVIN, MALTODEXTRIN,

Another B vitamin

CYANOCOBALAMIN

That's B12

What's missing for my money is citicoline, NAC and biotin. If you've been reading labels for a while, you'll notice that's the 5 hour energy combo. But I still can't buy that because of the sucralose - instant gut agony. I did discover citicoline and the combination through using the energy drink. They're useful, but I do wish they'd stop assuming I need fake sweetener and colors and junk like that. Being keto, I eat the freakiest things, I think I can handle a little bottle of off color mediciney liquid. So basically I'm not against energy drinks, but I can't take them because of the fermentable fake sugars.

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on September 24, 2012
at 06:02 PM

Having been synthesizing my own drinks at home lately, I can tell you that the absence of ingredients like ginseng and especially B-vitamins make a noticeable difference to the amount (and kind) of energy boost that the drinks provide. Pure caffeine alone will give you a kick, in large amounts, but the overall rush that you experience when drinking monster is dependent on other extracts and herbs.

Taurine is a huge factor in the "kick" of an energy drink and if you're looking for a beverage without it (which is advisable, considering the health concerns) then you'd best be sure your can reads: B12, Ginseng, Yohimbe, Carnatine (another a red flag, unfortunately), or Ginko-Bilboa.

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on February 20, 2012
at 05:03 AM

agreed james.. anything that you can not make on your own. should not be consumed. and anything you have to look at twice to pronounce, you shouldnt put in your body. things shouldnt really come with "ingredients" .. they should be their own "ingredients".. i follow the general rule that if there is more than one line of "ingredients", i dont buy/eat it. also, with the correct amounts of fat, and not having the sugar crashes, there's no need for the energy boosts from the energy drinks. be sure to be taking fish oils. I take 4 a day. take them all at once, or spread them out throughout the day... another highly important part of the diet is getting enough sleep. that will help with the energy throughout the day also.

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on February 04, 2012
at 06:54 AM

I've pretty much come to the conclusion that if something has any ingredients I couldn't buy at the store/farmers market myself, it doesn't belong in my body.

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on February 04, 2012
at 09:19 AM

Speaking of chemicals, I was in a museum in Daytona Beach. They had an old time apothecary shop they acquired lock stock and barrel and had it as an exhibit. Interesting seeing all the jars of chemicals and herbs, etc. Essentially the predecessor to the pharmacy, except they actually made the medicines from the ingredients.

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on February 04, 2012
at 09:16 AM

What if your farmer's market doubles as a chemical depot? :)

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on February 04, 2012
at 12:57 AM

Well, besides sucralose, ace-k, and other artificial sweeteners are pretty bad for you, you don't know what's in the natural flavors, do you? Maltodextrin can be made from rice, corn, or potato starch, but the label doesn't say what. That form of taurine is most likely isolated from ox bile. Ick. I'm not even sure what some of the other chemicals are.

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on February 04, 2012
at 06:57 AM

You are gonna laugh because you think the idea is gross, but I've actually paid for ox bile supplements. They helped quite a lot as a digestive enzyme when I was starting to eat more meat.

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