2

votes

Any reason to not drink coffee?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created December 12, 2012 at 10:25 PM

I love coffee and drink it only in the mornings while I read Platos Republic and play chess. I make sure to not drink it through out the day, as that makes it less luxurious. I am not addicted to it and do not need it to function, rather i enjoy how it ramps up my brain power a little more. Now, are there any reasons to not drink coffee other than possible reliance on it if consumed too regularly?

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

(5231)

on December 13, 2012
at 02:58 AM

Don't know about theories, but just go to the pharmacy counter at your drug store. You don't need an rx from your doctor (unless you want it covered by health ins). Get a model that uses the cheapest test strips and you're good to go. And yes, you'll have to prick your finger.

4c8a3f6cc7ed4444467d2e72de8021cd

(40)

on December 13, 2012
at 12:43 AM

Very interesting! Do you have any theories as to why this would happen? Is the glucose meter the finger prick thing? Do I need a doctors note or something of the like to get one?

4c8a3f6cc7ed4444467d2e72de8021cd

(40)

on December 12, 2012
at 11:36 PM

Well a neurotoxin is a substance that damages or impairs the functioning of nerve, correct? Caffeine works by blocking the adinosine receptor, impairing its ability to take in adinosine, therefore it is in fact classified as a neurotoxin, Jonas is correct, but due to that, there is an enhancement in brain activity, making it an enhancer. It is, too, the same inhibition of the receptor that increases ADH and as well cause bowel movements, so is the rick increase and decrease of cancer probabilities due to caffeine itself or its by product activity?

2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

(1021)

on December 12, 2012
at 11:14 PM

caffeine is not toxic in any meaningful sense. get real

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

(12682)

on December 12, 2012
at 11:11 PM

Actually caffeine seems to have some neuroprotective properties: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/sj.bjp.0705185/full http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/adis/dag/2001/00000018/00000011/art00001

4c8a3f6cc7ed4444467d2e72de8021cd

(40)

on December 12, 2012
at 11:02 PM

What would be the standard definition of neurotoxin? So we have a place to start to logically categorize caffeine.

1d5dd4c93883ba18a130855830f4dadc

(136)

on December 12, 2012
at 10:43 PM

Thanks for the thorough and enlightening response Jonas. So very helpful. No other responses are needed I guess.

  • 4c8a3f6cc7ed4444467d2e72de8021cd

    asked by

    (40)
  • Views
    1.7K
  • Last Activity
    1406D AGO
Frontpage book

Get FREE instant access to our Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!

6 Answers

best answer

1
Cc3ce03985eac5ebcbb95fc2329f13b0

on December 13, 2012
at 01:01 AM

Plato was known to enjoy an espresso directly proceeding his morning constitutional. As a matter of fact, he said, "Coffee is a moral law. It gives soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, and charm and gaiety to life and to everything."

So, drink up.

3
A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

(12682)

on December 12, 2012
at 11:07 PM

One possible downside is that caffeine seems to increase cortisol in response to mental stress (1,2), exercise (3,4), and even in resting conditions (5,6,7). This effect varies, but remains regardless of caffeine tolerance (8,9), gender (10), or whether the caffeine is consumed in coffee (11).

I don't think cortisol is some scary thing that should always be avoided (and it may even be beneficial in certain situations), but I generally avoid coffee when sick and/or stressed for this reason.

  1. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10826397
  2. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8084974
  3. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2321541
  4. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10852448
  5. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8951977
  6. http://jn.nutrition.org/content/141/4/703.full
  7. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17998023
  8. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16204431
  9. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2195579
  10. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2249754/?tool=pmcentrez
  11. http://jn.nutrition.org/content/141/4/703.full

2
6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on December 13, 2012
at 12:33 AM

Everyone reacts differently to it, and there are bunch of other chemicals in coffee other than just the caffeine, so it might be fine for one person but not for the other. I just found out about a month ago that it spikes my blood sugar (even though it does seem to help reduce the chance of developing T2D, a bit of a paradox). I tried it a bunch of different ways, cream, black, decaf, and all resulted in about a 25 point bump for the rest of the day, and 10-15 point bump on the next days fasting number. So if you wanted to do a fun experiment, you could drop $20 on a glucose meter, and see if it has an effect on your blood sugar.

4c8a3f6cc7ed4444467d2e72de8021cd

(40)

on December 13, 2012
at 12:43 AM

Very interesting! Do you have any theories as to why this would happen? Is the glucose meter the finger prick thing? Do I need a doctors note or something of the like to get one?

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

(5231)

on December 13, 2012
at 02:58 AM

Don't know about theories, but just go to the pharmacy counter at your drug store. You don't need an rx from your doctor (unless you want it covered by health ins). Get a model that uses the cheapest test strips and you're good to go. And yes, you'll have to prick your finger.

2
Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

on December 12, 2012
at 10:47 PM

I don't believe that caffeine is a neurotoxin. I would say that it's accepted as nootropic. Also, I was told by a cardiologist that caffeine is the only clinically proven 'performance enhancer'. Take that how you will, I'm just the messenger on that one.

I've read quite a bit that a coffee habit can lead to stomach cancer. At the same time, it has been shown to inhibit colon cancer. Makes sense. It can be tough on the tummy, but keeps the doodie movin'.

Are you two trolling together?

0
77aff3ef334db600e51356eea1317a58

on December 12, 2012
at 11:04 PM

Check out this link. Dave Asprey @bulletproofexec says that all problems with coffee consumption are due to toxins that arise in the production process of most coffee. He explains how to find clean coffee and sells it on his site.

http://www.bulletproofexec.com/how-to-make-your-coffee-bulletproof-and-your-morning-too/

-1
383127951e2e17f23b584cd3842bb796

(835)

on December 12, 2012
at 10:38 PM

caffeine is a neurotoxin

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

(12682)

on December 12, 2012
at 11:11 PM

Actually caffeine seems to have some neuroprotective properties: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/sj.bjp.0705185/full http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/adis/dag/2001/00000018/00000011/art00001

1d5dd4c93883ba18a130855830f4dadc

(136)

on December 12, 2012
at 10:43 PM

Thanks for the thorough and enlightening response Jonas. So very helpful. No other responses are needed I guess.

2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

(1021)

on December 12, 2012
at 11:14 PM

caffeine is not toxic in any meaningful sense. get real

4c8a3f6cc7ed4444467d2e72de8021cd

(40)

on December 12, 2012
at 11:36 PM

Well a neurotoxin is a substance that damages or impairs the functioning of nerve, correct? Caffeine works by blocking the adinosine receptor, impairing its ability to take in adinosine, therefore it is in fact classified as a neurotoxin, Jonas is correct, but due to that, there is an enhancement in brain activity, making it an enhancer. It is, too, the same inhibition of the receptor that increases ADH and as well cause bowel movements, so is the rick increase and decrease of cancer probabilities due to caffeine itself or its by product activity?

4c8a3f6cc7ed4444467d2e72de8021cd

(40)

on December 12, 2012
at 11:02 PM

What would be the standard definition of neurotoxin? So we have a place to start to logically categorize caffeine.

Answer Question


Get FREE instant access to our
Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!