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Degenerative Disc Disease and Autoimmunity

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 19, 2012 at 4:10 AM

Do you think there could be an autoimmune component to degenerative disc disease? Especially when diagnosed early in life?

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on January 26, 2012
at 05:42 PM

Thanks J.K. Im going to bring this matter up with my ortho doc today and i wrote down MMP9 and MMP2

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on January 19, 2012
at 05:08 PM

absolutely......i treat it daily. Draw you MMP9 and MMP 2 if they are up.......you got it.

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on January 19, 2012
at 04:55 PM

Makes sense Nance. Congenital anomalies can absolutely alter normal mechanics. Increased activity with poor mechanics may only exacerbate the problem. Obviously the wheat demons did no favors either.

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on January 19, 2012
at 04:23 PM

In my case, I was extremely active and slender once I left the toddler stage. However, I have a sacralized 5th lumbar vertebra (among other little variations to the norm) and I was having significant disc/hip/back problems in my teens. I was eating wheat and, I'm sure, poorly nourished overall.

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on January 19, 2012
at 04:45 AM

I believe Lierre Keith has--you can email her... FWIW, if you have facet joint pain, I have found http://www.webmd.com/pain-management/radiofrequency-ablation to be extremely helpful (extremely!). In La La Land I highly recommend http://www.uclahealth.org/body.cfm?id=479&action=detail&ref=25468 .

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on January 19, 2012
at 04:32 AM

I was diagnosed with the same thing and I can recall having low back pain even as early as 12 years old. I have my suspicions too, its unfortunate that there is not more research on this. I wonder if anybody here taking low dose naltrexone for autoimune issues (and happens to have DD) has seen improvement in degenerative disc?

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on January 19, 2012
at 04:18 AM

I'm not qualified to say Yes or No but I was diagnosed as having both degenerative disc and joint disease. Due to my ancestral eating, I've learned I have a severe intolerance for wheat--I've drawn a few conclusions.

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on May 25, 2012
at 03:25 PM

I've also had disc issues since my 20s. My Chiro. says that the degeneration of the disc on my 5th vertebrae is on par with a 70-year-old whose spine was a different shape than mine (meaning it did not happen from wear and tear.) I also have many other muscular/skeletal problems from an auto-immune disorder that was caused or made worse by a severe sensitivity to wheat, and a vegetarian/vegan diet for 10 years. I'm now eating a paleo diet and feeling so much better!!

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on January 19, 2012
at 04:00 PM

It's multifaceted (isn't everything?), but in general a poor diet and/or resulting autoimmune problems can absolutely exacerbate bad mechanics leading to degenerative arthritis. Discs take up fluid through imbibition which is how they stay healthy....a healthy disc does not degenerate. Imbibition occurs with movement so bad alignment(poor posture/sitting) or restriction of normal movement(injury or sedentary behavior) leads to degenerative changes. I have no doubt that poor nutrition would speed the process in a biomechanically compromised person.

And of course in advanced autoimmune inflammatory arthritic diseases like rheumatoid joint destruction happens frequently.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on January 19, 2012
at 04:23 PM

In my case, I was extremely active and slender once I left the toddler stage. However, I have a sacralized 5th lumbar vertebra (among other little variations to the norm) and I was having significant disc/hip/back problems in my teens. I was eating wheat and, I'm sure, poorly nourished overall.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on January 19, 2012
at 04:55 PM

Makes sense Nance. Congenital anomalies can absolutely alter normal mechanics. Increased activity with poor mechanics may only exacerbate the problem. Obviously the wheat demons did no favors either.

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